Talk:Maroon 5

genre

http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:qPuxHcrIUxwJ:www.mmguide.musicmatch.com/artist/artist.cgi%3FARTISTID%3D1228070+musicmatch+maroon+5&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us could we get some sources(other than mtv) stating that maroon five is a rock band. im pretty sure they are a pop group, so pop rock at the most. Kas0809 (talk) 15:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Not Powerpop

They aint a powerpop band, they're a pop rock band, thats it! you can hear nothing like powerpop music from their albums, so stop saying they're a powerpop band, its stupid.

Just a question here, what the heck is powerpop anyway? 74.204.40.46 09:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Power Pop is a genre that best describes Switchfoot, OK Go, and Weezer. 68.85.56.215

And Maroon 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.73.163 (talk) 00:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

dude, look up power pop on fucking wikipedia and you'll know the awnser. And for you dumbasses here's the link to the wikipage on powerpop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_pop --JBrocksthehouse (talk) 02:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Influences

For a potential section in the article (could be worked into a Musical style section).

In an interview with LiveDaily, Adam Levine was asked, "Who were some of your early influences?" He responed, "I was a huge Beatles fan. The Stones, Dylan. Later on, I got into Stevie Wonder, and Bill Withers--he's one of my heroes. Al Green, too."[1] LaraLove^T/_C 05:34, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Discography

Could someone post a more complete discography? I'm not very good at posting things to Wikipedia int he right format, or exactly how things should be set up, or I'd do it myself. But I'd really love to see a full list of tracks from all the albums, as well as all those random tracks that aren't from the albums, etc. Tommy 07:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

The albums have their own articles which include full track listings. Regards, LaraLove^T/_C 16:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Sort cleanup

I cleaned up some of the 6th section after Italianguy, as he had written invalid links to other articles, lacked commas, points and breaks, and had several spelling errors. It still needs a few references, though, which I was unable to provide.

Wikiburger 13:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Must Get Out

Was this single released in the U.S. or only the UK? I have never heard this song on the radio, and I worked in an electronics department (which included a music section) and we never got this CD. Google yields chart positions only for UK, so that is my assumption, but I was hoping someone could tell me for sure. LaraLove^T/_C 05:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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I added the correct licensing template and FUR. It should be good. LaraLove^T/_C 04:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Explicity in "Harder to Breathe"

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I belive the lyric in the song is "not fit to f--king tread the ground that I am walking on". It says "funking" in the lyric book, but that could be because of not wanting the curse in the book. I am almost sure that it is "f--king", because the radio edit censors this part and at every live performance, Adam puts a pause between the words "to" and "tread".Chick No.16 04:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I suppose it depends on the audience, but at the Aug 25, 2004 concert in Charlotte, North Carolina, he was not censoring lyrics. Nor has he ever censored the lyrics of their cover of Nine Inch Nails, "Closer". I've removed the information and will try to work it back in with better prose. LaraLove 05:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

You are right about the live performances, because when "Makes Me Wonder" and "Harder To Breathe" are done on TV, he censors the cursing (I should've specified), which means that it does depend on the audience. Thanks for your input! =DChick No.16 06:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Man, I'd be PISSED if Radiohead, Ween, or any other really good band censored their cursing in their performances. I paid full price for a ticket, I want to hear the music. This just proves that they are a boy band, because most of their fans are under 17; they can't play R rated music! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.73.163 (talk) 00:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

He doesn't censor his lyrics in concerts. Only on TV, and that's required by the network. Lara❤Love 04:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

GA review comments

This section contains the comments from a good article review conducted by me.

• WP:LEAD recommends two or three paragraphs for an article this long, not five, it's a little proseline so shouldn't be too hard to condense to three decent sized paragraphs.  Done It's at four, but the band has gone through a lot. :p
• It's a personal preference but I prefer cold, hard statistics to be contained in the main body, not in the lead, so the "429,484 copies" could be "nearly half a million" or similar and then used precisely and cited in the main article. But as I said, no policies or guidelines to tell you to do that, just a personal thing.  Done I prefer a vague lead as well.
• "Maroon 5 will be touring North America in Fall 2007 with The Hives as openers." - not sure this sort of recentism is needed in the lead at all. - Does it read better the way it is written now?
• Attend to the [citation needed] tags.  Done Left from PR and I forgot about them.
• "...deeper..." - than what? There's no context.  Done
• Lineprose persists a bit throughout, e.g. four paragraphs about Kara's Flowers including a single-sentence paragraph - could be made into two larger paragraphs.  Done
• "After the little success of Kara's Flowers, the pressure to make better music was rising for the band." - this has no citation and as such could be considered original research.  Done I've always considered that to be obviously true and not in need of citation. They're a band, their album failed, they either need to make better music or call it quits. But, since both you and the PR reviewer commented on that, I'll just remove it.
• "... and , where ..." in quote - remove space.  Done - The and wasn't even supposed to be there.
• "... that wound up on..." a little familiar for my liking.  Done
• "#6" etc - probably personal as I can find not a lot in the guidelines again, but some people would pronounce that "hash", so perhaps spell it out. - I'm not sure what you're talking about with "hash". I take it you think I should change chart positions from numerals to, for example, "number six". By the guidelines, either is appropriate. However, the use of numerals is preferred.
  • By hash, I mean the "#" symbol. But as you say, either is appropriate and most certainly won't affect the judgement of GA. The Rambling Man 15:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
• "Maroon 5 was constantly on tour after releasing their album in mid-2002. During this time, the band toured with Michelle Branch, Nikka Costa, and Vanessa Carlton. In mid 2003, they toured with Graham Colton, John Mayer, and Counting Crows. In August 2005, the band toured with The Rolling Stones.[10]" - this could easily be flowed into a more prose-like single sentence.  Done
• Why were his arms injured? Was it just fatigue or was it something more sinister? - I read once that his shoulder was jacked from football in high school, but I searched everywhere to find a source for that for the article and I can't find a word about it. As far as what I can find now, it is from excessive performing.
• Don't wikilink single month (e.g. mid-June) - doesn't really enhance the article.  Done - I didn't even notice that, and I'm a stickler about that.
• No citations for the last two paragraphs of "Explicit content" section.  Done
• The following references need examination:
  • Ref [1] is dead.  Done - Replaced it with same article, different url.
  • Ref [12] is just a photo and doesn't mention Stevie Wonder or Live 8 at all.  Done They must have added another image. It's now image 4. I updated it. The image, however, is the reference. It includes Stevie Wonder.
  • You can now update all the other accessdates to today (25 July, 2007) as I can confirm that I found them (with the exception of [1]). - Is that really necessary? I didn't realize that accessdates had to be updated.
• Trim external links per WP:EL - not sure the youtube links are needed - they can be provided in the article about the song if you ask me.  Done

So with these concerns, I'll place the GA nom on hold until they can be addressed. All the best. The Rambling Man 12:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Made changes. Please see comments. Lara♥Love 15:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'll re-review asap, but as for accessdates, although not essential, it seems worthwhile considering that I checked them all by hand. I can change them if you're too busy, not a problem. The Rambling Man 15:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I see that you just did it. I would have done it. I just don't see the point. But thank you all the same. Lara♥Love 16:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the point is that if it's been accessed recently it's lower risk as a citation than if it was accessed say six months ago. Anyway, it's done. Hurrah. And now it's a GA. Double hurrah. Nice work, hope you didn't mind the non-regular review, I tend to be a bit tighter on bits and pieces than the standard GA criteria. The Rambling Man 16:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Star Wars influenced name

I am suprised this hasn't come up or is in the article, but Maroon 5 the name is defintely Star Wars related from Luke Skywalker's A New Hope call sign of "Red 5." I remember Starwars.com had an interview with Maroon 5 about it. 68.9.255.198 18:13, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

If you can find a reliable source that details what the name is in reference to, that would be great. However, in all my years as an M5 fan, I've never heard this. Google also fails to help verify this claim. Lara♥Love 19:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Dates in sections?

I had noticed that some other band articles have dates in the section titles, so I was thinking that maybe the same thing should be done here. I checked out all of the FA band articles and here's the stats:
AC/DC, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Megadeth, Nightwish, The Orb, Slayer, and Stereolab all have dates in the section titles (8)
Sex Pistols, Fightin' Texas Aggie Band, The Jackson 5, The KLF, Nirvana, The Supremes, Timpani, and The Waterboys don't (7)
Now just cause more have dates in the section titles doesn't mean that the same should be here, of course: I was just seeing how common that was. So, think we should do it? They'd be:

• ===Kara's Flowers (1995–2001)===
• ===Formation===
• ===Songs About Jane (2002)===
• ===Constant touring and Dusick leaving===
• ===It Won't Be Soon Before Long (2007)===

Cliff smith 02:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

There used to be dates in the title. I believe it was Fluence who I had this out with. I am wholly opposed to dates in titles for bands with a short history. It seems entirely pointless to me. Dates are mentioned in the section, I don't see the need for it in the title. I want to remove them from the FOB article, but I don't feel like dealing with the possible fall out right now, no pun intended. It's not up to me, however. But I oppose. I think it looks terrible. Lara♥Love 06:21, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

It was Painbearer. Anyway, here's what it used to look like [2]. Lara♥Love 06:26, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh you're right, that looks bad. Damn. Thanks for the example. Cliff smith 20:05, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

According to Rolling Stone magazine, Songs About Jane has sold over 10 million copies

somebody should add this in. Duff man2007 06:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

We need a source for it to be reliable Omghgomg 06:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It is in the article, in the discography, sourced to USA Today. LARA♥LOVE 15:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

okay but it should be put in their main article then, not just "multiple platimum awards" or whatever Duff man2007 02:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The reason I've not put it in the body is because RIAA certifies albums as Diamond once they've sold 10 million + albums, however, I can't put that in the article because I can't find any source that says SAJ has been certified as such. Once it goes diamond, I'll add it to the body. If you'd like to add it before then, I certainly can't stop you, but I think it would be more appropriate once the RIAA source is there to back it up. LARA♥LOVE 05:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the 10million figure refers to worldwide sales, therefore the RIAA would not certify 10 mil. 79.69.142.234 (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Controversy over Parental Advisory Label

Not sure why such a point about them not having the PA label on the album is being made. There is only one song on each album with the f word in it and its up to the record label whether to put the Parental Advisory label on or not. They are definitely not the first or last band to not actually have a label on even though there is a swearword or two... MarvinNi 14:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Marvin, thanks for your inquiry. It's a one sentence sourced paragraph, so it's not a big point in the article. But there was an issue with some, as noted in the sources, that there wasn't a PA label despite the inclusion of explicit language and sexually explicit themes. Lara❤Love 16:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I’ve gone and removed one paragraph about controversy and fact-tagged another. Overall, the two seem like they were written by people who have a beef with the subject and want to create the illusion of consensus. Yes, one of them had a cite attached, but the cite didn’t verify that there was any controversy at all; it only discussed the meaning of the song, and only very briefly at that. As an aside, I don’t have much experience working on articles about bands or living persons and I wonder if the two should have similar standards for verifiability. — NRen2k5, 19:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The Tears of Medusa

Did The Tears of Medusa ever exist? Could someone with more knowledge on the topic deal with linking the article (get rid of the orphan tag) or initiate a deletion of the article? Thanks.--Fisherjs 21:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

That album was a hoax. Delete it. σмgнgσмg 03:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Maroon 5 is a boy band

Maroon 5 fits the exact description for a boy band. They are, in fact, a boy band. Why was this fact removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.73.163 (talk) 05:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, they in no way fit the description of a boy band. They don't dance, they aren't all singers, in fact, they all play instruments. They also aren't focused toward teen youth. Lara❤Love 18:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, they are a boy band. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.73.163 (talk) 00:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Haha. How so? Lara❤Love 04:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Well that’s it, I’m convinced now! ;) — NRen2k5, 19:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

A friend of mine was also under the impression that they were a boy band until I showed her a picture of them on stage (with their instruments, etc.). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.210.215.92 (talk) 01:48, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Correct Spelling?

I'm wondering if Maroon 5 is the correct spelling. I've noticed in Edition 18 of British Hit Singles & Albums (published by Guinness World Records) that the name is spelt Maroon5. Do the later editions still spell it the same? I appreciate the book may not be the definitive resource to determine the spelling, but I've also noticed that on the group's albums it appears with the book's spelling. -- Mickraus (talk) 23:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Pictures in Article

Does anyone have actual pictures of the band available? The page now shows pictures of random women with the names of the cast of "Queer Eye." [[[User:Deuce1980|Deuce1980]] (talk) 13:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)]

Kara's Flowers

• When a band simply changes its name, the old name doesn't really need its own separate article, does it? Not only that, but the Kara's Flowers article is completely unsourced; this is why I added the {{mergefrom}} tag. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL (talk) 11:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Goodnight Goodnight link

The link to Goodnight Goodnight at the bottom of the page directs to a song by a different band. Is this intended? Appropriate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.226.110.11 (talk) 00:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey i deleted the link, thanks for telling me ! It wasn't needed there anyway. Jakisbak (talk) 01:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Maroon 5 userboxes

Hey. Here are the links of the Maroon 5 userboxes I created:

• Fan of Maroon 5
• Favourite songs from Maroon 5

Aranho (talk) 06:59, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

About James

I suppose that James joined Kara's Flowers after the band signed on with Octone Records , not before.

see this site

http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4558908-1.html 121.83.51.145 (talk) 12:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Boy band

Are Maroon 5 a boy band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 9014user (talk • contribs) 14:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Check out the fifteenth topic in this page. They are not.

Boy bands best describe the Jonas Brothers and Metro Station, among others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JRC3 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Maroon 5/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles' Project quality task force ("GA Sweeps"), all old good articles are being re-reviewed to ensure that they meet current good article criteria (as detailed at WP:WIAGA.) I have determined that this article needs some work to meet current criteria, outlined below:

• Some apparently unsourced statements:
  • "Others they have toured alongside include Gavin DeGraw, Matchbox Twenty, Sugar Ray, Counting Crows, Phantom Planet, The Hives, Dashboard Confessional, Big City Rock, The Like, Simon Dawes, Jason Mraz, The Thrills, Thirsty Merc, Marc Broussard, The Donnas, The RedWest, Michael Tolcher and Guster."
  • "They are currently touring with Dashboard Confessional in their world tour and, beginning March 28, 2008, they will tour with OneRepublic, Brandi Carlile, and Ry Cuming. They have also performed "Makes Me Wonder" on season 6 of American Idol and "If I Never See Your Face Again" on season 7 of American Idol. The re-release of the album featured a new duet version of "If I Never See Your Face Again" with Rihanna; the new version of the song also appeared on the re-release of Rihanna's album Good Girl Gone Bad. They also released as the album's 5th single "Goodnight Goodnight"."
  • "The band will also perform in Salt Lake City for the Omniture conference. They have revealed titles of five songs from the thirdcoming album; "How", "I'm Never Gonna Leave This Bed", "Wasted Years", "Last Chance", "Don't Know Much About That", and "Hands All Over"."
• Current ref 36, 37 are dead; current ref 16 does not support statement
• What makes IORR.org, 411mania, acharts.us, ContactMusic.com, and Groovevolt reliable sources?

--Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 19:09, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

• • As no progress has been made on the above, I am delisting the article. Anyone can renominate the page at WP:GAN at any time, but I encourage addressing the above issues. If you have questions or comments, please take them to my talk page; I don't watchlist old reviews. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 20:18, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Name of upcoming album

The article cited as the source for the album being called "Hands All Over" states no such thing. It states that there will be a song on the album called "Hands All Over". Is there another source for this statement? 8.12.63.35 (talk) 20:41, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

"This Love" Censored Video

Should the paragraph on this section mention that the censored (flowers) version of "This Love" was also released in the United States? The "conservative markets like the Philippines" line suggests it was just a small audience that saw the censored version; I remember seeing the censored version on MTV or VH1 when the video was first released (and was later surprised by the uncensored version), and the new link is to a MTV video. 161.130.178.93 (talk) 00:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Discography

link to discography of maroon 5 from their main page has now gone, can someone put it up again? i would but this page is protected now, something to do with sock puppets.