Talk:Northwest Territory

Northwestern University

For some reason there was a large amount of information in the introduction about Northwestern University. I deleted it as it is completely irrelevant. Mbarry829 (talk) 22:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Rename/Move

Is there any reason this article can't be at just plain Northwest Territory so long as it retains the note at the top about Canada's Northwestern Territories? jengod 07:56, Jan 28, 2004 (UTC)

Moved. I don't see the confusion since that one is plural and this one is singular. the note at the top is more than enough. --Jiang 07:58, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Fixed chronology problem

The Constitutional convention was in 1787 and could not possibly have been the motivating factor for events in 1780. By the time of the convention, the Western lands issue had mostly been settled.

Roadrunner 14:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

That was a mistake in the original. It should have referred to the Articles of Confederation. Maryland held out on ratifying the articles until states had agreed to cede their claims to western territories. older ≠ wiser 15:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Phantom categories are a menace

Near the top of the page, the following text appears:

Northwest Territory, 1787 Northwest Territory, 1803

Where the heck does that come from? I keep editing/searching the article, but I can't find it to either delete it or move it to the bottom of the article, where it belongs. Mingusboodle (talk) 05:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I think these were caused by a recent edit that linked dates in the infobox. older ≠ wiser 13:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that! Mingusboodle (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The same size as France

Reading this article, I notice that the Old Northwest is just about the same size as France, and propose adding a phrase to that effect. This should help people visualize it, especially people from outside North America.

Suggest ending the second paragraph: "The area covered more than 260,000 square miles (673,000 km²), the same size as France."

76.199.15.13 (talk) 16:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Name change

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was: this discussion closed, so that it can continue in one place at Talk:Northwest Territories#Name change.

Observation: There are currently two similarly named articles: Northwest Territory and Northwest Territories. IMHO, the singular vs. plural distinction is not really sufficient as a distinction between the two names. I would propose making both of these existing names point to a common disambig page and move the content of these two articles to new names which clearly distinguish the two:

• Northwest Territories -> Northwest Territories, Canada
• Northwest Territory -> Northwest Territory, United States

--Mcorazao (talk) 17:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

(copied from Talk:Northwest Territories#Name change) Opposed. First of all Northwest Territories and Northwest Territory can not redirect to a disambiguation page. Northwest Territories would have to be a redirect to Northwest Territories, Canada and Northwest Territory would have to be a redirect to Northwest Territory, United States. There is also the amount of work that would be needed if these pointed to a disambiguation page as you don't want redirects sending people to a disambiguation. There are 500+ links into Northwest Territory and 2500+ links into Northwest Territories that would need changing. I don't think that there is much confusion between the two as one is an historical area and the other currently exists. Also the fact that Northwest Territory, United States didn't exist as a redirect until just now indicates there is little need for this. Anyway there are disambiguation notes at the top of both pages covering the other. By the way what about North-Western Territory? Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 01:31, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed that the page was moved in 2004 to here because they felt there was no confusion but I can't see anything in the history to indicate where it was moved from. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 01:33, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Agree with CBW in opposing any such move. One is almost always referred to as singular and the other almost always as plural. older ≠ wiser 02:10, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

• Note: It usually is not a good idea to open up two separate discussions on the same topic, so that comments are scattered across two talk pages. I would kindly ask anyone with comments on this move proposal to please make your comments at Talk:Northwest Territories#Name change. Thanks. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Lithuanian Northwest Territory

While there may or may not need to be disambiguation between Territory and Territories, it is needed to distinguished at least between the Northwest Territory in the USA and the Northwest Territory in the old Russian Empire (which included Lithuania). Uranian Institute (talk) 20:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

If there were a topic on "Northwest Territory in the old Russian Empire", it would be possible to add it to the list of disambiguation comments. Tedickey (talk) 21:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Russian Northwest Territory

According to the Encyclopedia Britannica entry for Lithuania, the term Northwest Territory was used not just for Lithuania but for a region within the Russian Empire that included Lithuania, "northwest" logically implying "Northwest Russian Empire". Wikipedia already includes an entry for "Northwestern Krai", a political entity created in the 18th century, and therefore probably Not the same as the "Northwest Territory" created after 1830 by the Russian Czarist government. Assuming the Encyclopedia Britannica as a credible source, this means a rather clear need to disambiguate at least between the US Northwest Territory and the Russian Northwest Territory -- even IF (and that is a big IF) the Russian Northwest Territory were identical to the "Northwestern Krai".... also it seems reasonable to me for people to include information published by reliable academic sources if such information is available in reliable academic sources. And also remember that Wikipedia is consulted by people all over the world who are reading material and references from around the globe. The disambiguation of "Northwest Territory" remains aside from the question of disambiguation with "Northwest Territories". Uranian Institute (talk) 21:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)