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Considering that there is currently an RfC about this very issue ([[Wikipedia talk:Categorization#RfC on Sortkey issue]]), I consider this a disruptive request, intended to change a discussion by creating a [[fait accompli]]. Pleae immediately withdraw this request, and only file it again after the RfC has concluded that this is indeed what the community wants. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Considering that there is currently an RfC about this very issue ([[Wikipedia talk:Categorization#RfC on Sortkey issue]]), I consider this a disruptive request, intended to change a discussion by creating a [[fait accompli]]. Pleae immediately withdraw this request, and only file it again after the RfC has concluded that this is indeed what the community wants. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:Clarification, if any is needed: the same effect of correcting out of order sorting can often be achieved by ''removing'' the defaultsort, often initially added by Rich Farmbrough through Smackbot or AWB. This bot supports one solution to a problem largely created by the same editor, above other possible solutions. Also be aware that by adding a ''defaultsort'' instead of a category-specific sort (i.e. only adding a piped sort to the cat where the incorrect sort actually happens), often articles will be moved to the correct spot in one category, only to get sorted out of order in another category, where there were no problems until then. This is not a good problem-solving bot, but creates as many as it intends to solve. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:Clarification, if any is needed: the same effect of correcting out of order sorting can often be achieved by ''removing'' the defaultsort, often initially added by Rich Farmbrough through Smackbot or AWB. This bot supports one solution to a problem largely created by the same editor, above other possible solutions. Also be aware that by adding a ''defaultsort'' instead of a category-specific sort (i.e. only adding a piped sort to the cat where the incorrect sort actually happens), often articles will be moved to the correct spot in one category, only to get sorted out of order in another category, where there were no problems until then. This is not a good problem-solving bot, but creates as many as it intends to solve. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
{{BAG assistance needed}} ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'' 05:32, 10 November 2010 (UTC) <br />

Revision as of 05:32, 10 November 2010

Operator: [[::User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] (talk · contribs)

Automatic or Manually assisted: Automatic

Programming language(s): Perl/AWB

Source code available: AWB, yes; Perl no.

Function overview: Add DEFAULTSORT to pages which are sorted out-of-order in a category

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): Continuous

Estimated number of pages affected: backlog, plus estimated 1,200 per month

Exclusion compliant (Y/N): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): Yes

Function details: Will be run off databse dumps intially. Establishes for every page in a category, that does not have an explicit sort, whether the addition of a DEFAUTLSORT will resolve the OOO.


Discussion

Basically simple. Rich Farmbrough 07:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that there is currently an RfC about this very issue (Wikipedia talk:Categorization#RfC on Sortkey issue), I consider this a disruptive request, intended to change a discussion by creating a fait accompli. Pleae immediately withdraw this request, and only file it again after the RfC has concluded that this is indeed what the community wants. Fram (talk) 08:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification, if any is needed: the same effect of correcting out of order sorting can often be achieved by removing the defaultsort, often initially added by Rich Farmbrough through Smackbot or AWB. This bot supports one solution to a problem largely created by the same editor, above other possible solutions. Also be aware that by adding a defaultsort instead of a category-specific sort (i.e. only adding a piped sort to the cat where the incorrect sort actually happens), often articles will be moved to the correct spot in one category, only to get sorted out of order in another category, where there were no problems until then. This is not a good problem-solving bot, but creates as many as it intends to solve. Fram (talk) 08:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A user has requested the attention of a member of the Bot Approvals Group. Once assistance has been rendered, please deactivate this tag by replacing it with {{t|BAG assistance needed}}. Rich Farmbrough 05:32, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]