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Re: GoodSearch opinion

Thank you for the information. Understand the comments and agree with the suggestion. Uptodateinfo

{{Hangon}} for Course Selection at Earl Haig Secondary School

I have once again put the {{Hangon}} Template on the article, but I'm quite unsure why this article would be moved to deletion. It doesn't seem to have vandalized the copyrighted content, and also doesn't seem to have plagiarized someone's work. I can see what you are talking about, but I think that this article shouldn't be deleted. Otherwise, I will improve this article to Wikipedia's standard. But thanks for your notice.

Please contact me if you have any concerns.

Besides I'm only a Wikipedian for less than 6 months so I'm quite inexperienced. However the quality and standard of my articles will improve. Challisrussia (talk)

Village with offensive name

Just looked at your referral for Kotak, a village with an allegedly offensive name. The offensive word would be kotok (which is offensive slang for penis in at least Kyrgyz. However, Kotak should be ok -- it also appears on google maps for roughly the same location shown in the article -- Google Map of Kotak. Thanks for checking up on it, though! ~~

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Jeffrey Lang

I declined the speedy A7, for it unmistakable asserts importance as a mathematician and a writer. Asserting that someone has written books (other than self-published or vanity press books) is a credible assertion of importance, though it does not necessarily prove it--it depends on the books. Asserting one is a professor at a major university is similarly at least asserting importance, thoug h it does not necessarily prove it--it depends on the criteria at WP:PROF.

The article was nominated for deletion previously and deleted; but I have checked and it is not a simple recreation but a considerable expansion that appears might answer the reasons for deletion previously given, and so does not qualify for speedy deletion under criterion G4. If you think it does not sufficiently answer them, the way to test it is of course a second AfD. Personally, I think he is notable, and will so argue there, but perhaps the community will agree with me or perhaps not. DGG ( talk ) 20:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm not going to AfD it and in saying, "Asserting that someone has written books (other than self-published or vanity press books) is a credible assertion of importance", you read my mind almost verbatim in regard to the question I was debating whether to ask you or ask on the CSD talk page. Thank you for that. Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 21:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

DGG, I understand that you have taken the position that even a single non–self–published book is enough to avoid an A7 speedy. Is the same logic true for a single credited role in a general–release movie or TV show for an actor or a single credited participation on a label–released recording for a musician? I'm not trying to argue, just to understand. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 17:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

the analog is to having written part of a collaborative work. I think it depends on some indication of the extent of the contribution & the importance of the work. For movies, I do not count one or two appearances in the "additional Performers" part of IMdB as a credible claim to significance, unless it is a famous film. I avoid judging popular music unless it is totally obvious even to the ignorant. Back in the world I know, I do not regard a claim to having written a single peer-reviewed paper as credible importance. (The essential standard is, that if the subject were a reasonable person and understood Wikipedia, would he think it plausible or ridiculous to have a Wikipedia page) In practice, borderline cases should be prodded; this deals with about 1/2 of them. If accompanied by a really polite & sympathetic note to the author about the inadvisability of removing the prod if it will not meet our standards, it can be 3/4. DGG ( talk ) 21:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Excellent analysis, as always. Do you apply the collaboration consideration to film directors, too? Many thanks, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 21:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for 3O on Vuia

Thank you for offering a 3rd opinion about use of the word "unassisted" in the Traia Vuia article. DonFB (talk) 18:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for 3O on Trojan Horse

Thank you for offering a 3rd opinion about the references of "Mykonos vase". --Perhelion (talk) 10:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 13:37, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Carnivale De Robotique

Hello TransporterMan. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Carnivale De Robotique, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Being created by two people notable enough for articles is enough for A7. PROD or take to WP:AFD if required. . Thank you. GedUK  10:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Has that rationale been established somewhere through a consensus discussion, or is it your personal standard? I'm not challenging you, just curious and trying to learn more about this, having had my hat handed to me on this subject in my recent failed RfA. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 13:40, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

That's mine really, though I've seen others use it too. Notability isn't inherited (and that would count in this case), but CSD is a lower threshold. A7 is very wide, and equally very tight! It's a minefield at RfA really; what's an indication for one admin, isn't for another. Sorry I can't be more help! GedUK  19:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Vacation

Hope it's somewhere fun...bon voyage! --RegentsPark (talk) 23:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Baptism and Immersion Baptism

I think your warning against edit warring should be put into effect for these two articles. (I hope the previous entry just above this doesn't mean that you will not be able to attend to this request.) Esoglou (talk) 07:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but it did mean that. Hope things are working better now. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 22:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Making fun of..

Is there a way that you can get rid of someone who is making fun of me? This person has posted on my page twice now. Calling my user page snobby. -- Lady Meg (talk) 22:00, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean the two IP edits in the Especally welcome section? I can't do anything, I'm not a sysop, but you can request that your talk page be semi-protected at WP:RPP which will prevent IP editors from editing it. I think that such a request is, however, unlikely to be granted at this point, since WP:UPROT says, "User talk pages are rarely protected, and are semi-protected for short durations only in the most severe cases of vandalism from IP users." If it continues, however, make the request and even if it is denied you'll have a record to use if it continues after that. With this kind of thing, my personal philosophy is to just grit one's teeth and bear it without responding or taking further action as to do so is to just egg them on. This kind of miscreant typically has a short attention span unless you do something to keep his or her attention. Sorry I can't do more. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 22:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Eh, thanks for trying to help. Right.. I think I'll just leave it alone. Just thought it was rude.. not sure how my page is uh snobby. Perhaps I should take some of it down. I don't need others doing this. I'm just proud of my ancestors, ya know.. like you were saying.. well thanks again. -- Lady Meg (talk) 04:44, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

3O

Duly noted, thank you for telling me, I'm still getting a hang of this whole 3O thing. :) --hkr (talk) 00:14, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Duke of Cambridge

Until something is officially put out by Buckingham Palace, etc. I took this edit down that some person put up obviously after reading the magazine US. That is the only place I can find it. I do not think it proper to predict something on wiki especially when there is NO official legitimate source! They stated that Prince William and Kate Middleton will become Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. As I don't know how to link the certain revision I can only link you to the page: Duke of Cambridge; the revision was made by an IP address: 76.94.222.199 -- Lady Meg (talk) 05:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

First, a mechanical tip: To identify a particular edit, find it in the page history and get it up on your screen so that it looks like this, with the edit you're interested in identifying in the right-hand column. Copy the url from your browser's url bar and put the link into your message, using the following format:

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duke_of_Cambridge&diff=394954109&oldid=381345523 your text], which gives this result: your text

You can put anything you like in place of "your text" (or omit it altogether, which I don't recommend, as it creates an ambiguity).

You can also insert a link with {{diff2|394954109|your text}}, which gives this result: your text (note that there's no external link symbol) but figuring out which number to extract from the URL in all possible cases to insert in that format can be a little tricky. Here's how it works, again starting with the edit that you're trying to identify in the right-hand column, part of the URL will always be "diff=<something>":

• If <something> is a number, use that number
• If <something> is "prev", use the number that follows "oldid="
• If <something> is "next", click the "next edit" link in the right-hand column (which will put the edit in which you're interested into the left-hand column) and use the number that follows "oldid="

Now about your edit, itself:

• Since it was an unsourced edit, it was subject to being removed whether it is true or false. (The "best practice" is to, first, try to find a reliable source for it and, if none can be found, to tag it with an inline {{Citation needed}} tag, then come back a couple of weeks later and delete it if no source has been provided. However, the burden of proof is on the editor who introduces the assertion to source it at the time it is added and therefore any editor has the right to choose to not follow the best practice and just go ahead and delete it on sight.)
• Take a look at WP:CRYSTAL — Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. You can look at the IP editor's edit in two ways: First, it was about a current event, i.e. something that bookmakers are doing right now. My opinion is that even if that bookmaker action can be established through reliable sources, it's not notable. Second, it was a mere speculation about a future event, which clearly violates WP:CRYSTAL. Either way it doesn't belong here.

So I think that you were right. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 15:27, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Transporter! Now I just have to remember all this.. guess I will put it in a note and save it for future edits, etc. The only source for that rubbish was a gossip magazine and it has been all over the net now.. a source from the Palace has confirmed nothing is true and it's all due to an author's new publication of a book about the royals. Merely a prediction and that was the first time I have ever heard it... from an American magazine! Thanks again. -- Lady Meg (talk) 03:17, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

FYI the IP address was from LA, California where most of this gossip originates! -- Lady Meg (talk) 03:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

2010 NPP

Thanks for your 3O on the above. I particularly like how you described the 'value' to be ascribed to same. Much appreciated, --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 15:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 16:00, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

sincerely Thank you...

Dear TransporterMan, I wanted to express my enormous gratitude for removing speedy deletion nomination for FlexiScore... I will absolutely agree with you that the term is neologism. You are 100% right - it is! But does it make the term wrong, spam? Nothing upset more then the fact that some users believe Flexibility Score terminology is spam - I hate spam!!! Please understand - over 3 years of my life were spent to create, modify, adjust ways to measure and calculate body flexibility score. I would kindly ask all the users not happy with flexiscore definition to search the web for any bits or pieces of additional, valuable information on how to calculate body flexibility score - it is impossible to achieve any reliable results, and that's why pages created around FlexiScore seem like the only ones... To the users who are against FlexiScore term, I would ask with all kindness: please allow some time for this neologism to live in Wikipedia, let's all edit this definition to match your individual standards and the Wikipedia requirements. TransporterMan - Thank you, sincerely Thank you... Ednoror (talk) 01:49, 19 November 2010 (UTC)