Talk:2022 FIFA World Cup

Qualification

Is this section really necessary at the moment. Qualification won't begin for more than a decade. Jmount (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, this page should be deleted until this World Cup even becomes relevant. Spitfire19 ^T/_C 16:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 89.242.207.26, 2 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} 89.242.207.26 (talk) 16:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Spitfire19 ^T/_C 16:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Please add in the bidding section

The voting patterns were as follows:

Country	First round	Second round	Third round	Fourth round
Qatar	11	10	11	14
United States	3	5	6	8
Republic of Korea	4	5	5	Eliminated
Japan	3	2	Eliminated
Australia	1	Eliminated

LGBT rights

the section doesnt mention anythign to do with the 2022 World Cup, all it says is that its illegal. Which may be well and good but it has no relevance to this unless specifically mentioned and can thus stay on the requisite page.Lihaas (talk) 17:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• I revert. I fail to understand why alcohol prohibition is mentioned and LGBT rights in Qatar aren't. Hektor (talk) 18:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I just told you above, because the alcohol mentions what it has to do with the World Cup (ie- its banned, but fan zones will sell it), this part doesnt mention anything whatsoever to do with the world, it simply states its banned (and the source doesnt draw comparison either, its just asking if the reader would go there with a list of facts). (youve also added the same ref twice, could delete/remove that at least?) If you have some source that suggests it would be legalised for the duration of the world or something of the sort then add it.Lihaas (talk) 18:50, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

In 2022, it is not absurd to think that there will be international football players who will be openly gay ; supporters can be openly homosexual. Or transgender. This is an issue. Hektor (talk) 18:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

What? Thats an absurd arguement for the sake of arguing. This is complete WP:OR and WP:Synthesis by definition. If it becomes an issue in 2022 then cite, right now you have absoltuely no relevance. Wikipedia is not a WP:Crystal ballLihaas (talk) 19:08, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

We are in the talk page. Discussion about OR is not relevant here. What I put in the article is factual. Hektor (talk) 19:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, i presume your not that familiar with the english wikipedia (i dont know how this works on other ones) as per your page. But OR is a talk page debate where material that would be thus is talked about. What you enter maybe factual to another page, it is NOT relevant to the cotnents of the 2022 FIFA World Cup, which if you read the section says, and i quote, "Homosexuality is illegal in Qatar."

Anyways, it now seems to have been taken off by another editor for the same reason "and... No football context given so removed"Lihaas (talk) 19:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's totally irrelevant. Qatar may have a number of social and human rights problems, maybe more so than many Western nations, but they don't need to all be mentioned in this article. If, however, some people talk about boycotting the World Cup because of said social issues, then, sure, it'd be relevant. But saying "there might be gay players, so it's relevant" is absurd. -- tariqabjotu 19:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

PLEASE MAKE MENTION OF THE STATUS OF LGBT RIGHTS SOMEWHERE IN THE ARTICLE. This is a human rights issue, and deserves mention - especially considering that the NY Times in conjecturing that Blatter is vying for the Nobel Peace prize by awarding the World Cup to assorted developing nations. At the very least, the general issue of human rights in Qatar should be raised, with reference to articles on the status of women and LGBTQ persons in Qatar. This is important information that e.g. fans who may be traveling to the event need to be aware of. If Qatar establishes "fan zones" with one set of laws, what happens if errant fans venture outside of that district? To what set up laws are they subject?

They call it the WORLD CUP, which indicates that it should be inclusive of all citizens of the world - regardless of religion, ethnicity, and sexual orientation. Placing the event in a country that has specific laws and customs that discriminate against particular subsets of people brings into question the label "World Cup." These issues must be brought up in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.93.84 (talk) 01:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Given 'tariqabjotu professed religious interests, he may not be an objective commentator on this issue. To quote his user page, "being one hundred percent devoid of bias is just about impossible." Tariqabjuto, this may be one of those cases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.93.84 (talk) 01:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Again WP:NOR. If a news article draws that conclusion - then we can include LGBT issues to the article. Likewise with any socio-economic/environmental/political/etc. issue. --Madchester (talk) 02:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

FIFA Corruption

Hopefully Qatar winning the right to host the 2022 World Cup will lead to some kind of democratisation of FIFA. For too long this kleptocracy has wielded its evil ways on the beautiful game that we all love. It has to stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.221.37.212 (talk) 08:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Venues

Hi, a autoconfirmed user goes to this address and upload those pictures here and added to the venues. We can upload them because those pictures are animation like the pictures of the venues of 2014 FIFA world cup that uploaded and never deleted such it.Troly2010 (talk) 11:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)