Talk:2022 FIFA World Cup

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Not in Qatar[edit]

There's been reports that Qatar will not host the world cup. Should we add this or expand on it. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:32, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Not until there are reliable sources. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:12, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Climate?[edit]

No separate section about the climate problems??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.191.117.125 (talk) 17:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

What problems? It's warm there, but football can be played there. -Koppapa (talk) 17:52, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
This Mickey Mouse league you're pointing to is played between September and April, not in June/July when FIFA and Qatar said there would be no problem playing the World Cup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.164.206 (talk) 16:50, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Climate section and most controversy things are on List of 2022 FIFA World Cup controversies. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:08, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

November date[edit]

I received reverted an edit saying that the WC would be in November. The source, which appears to be Grant Wahl at SI [1], says "Multiple sources say it's a done deal that World Cup 2022 will take place in November and December of 2022 in Qatar. A FIFA task force will meet in Doha next week and make that recommendation, and the FIFA Executive Committee is set to make the decision final at its meeting in Zurich next month." So it is likely, but is not confirmed. If anyone thinks the information provided is reliable enough, please re-add. -- Chuq (talk) 23:09, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I restored this and clarified that it is reported by SI with a quote. IMHO, SI is a sufficient reliable source, but we should still report it as uncertain. --Trödel 13:39, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Would vs. will[edit]

I've adjusted the wording in the intro to be more tentative and less certain, to reflect not just that the possibility that the 22nd FIFA World Cup might end up not being held in Qatar, but given the way things are going at the moment, also the possibility that by 2022 FIFA itself might no longer exist, and the planning for the 2022 World Cup might have been taken over by some other organization. -- The Anome (talk) 11:14, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree with all of it except for the fact there's no evidence that there won't be a 2022 World Cup, even if Qatar don't host it. I'm not going to edit war to change it back, but I think "The 2022 FIFA World Cup will be the 22nd FIFA World Cup"- it's the terminology used for every other future sports event, and there's no evidence that it won't happen. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:21, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Oh, there will definitely be a 2022 World Cup, somewhere, and it will be organized by someone. The timescale is not a problem: there are plenty of cities that have held past World Cup or Olympic events that have stadia and infrastructure capable of hosting the competition with 5 or even 3 years notice. But FIFA's continued viability now seems to be in question. Perhaps this article should be called "2022 World Cup"? -- The Anome (talk) 11:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
No, many sports have World Cups in 2022, also thinking "FIFA might not exist then" is ridiculously speculative. Currently there will be a football World Cup run by FIFA in 2022 in Qatar, that's what the facts are, and what the reliable sources say. Anything else is speculation. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:41, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't think there is any where near enough evidence that FIFA won't even exist by 2022 to speculate that they won't be in charge by then. Reform is being pushed, as it should be, but not dismantling of the organization as a whole. Chris1834 Talk 12:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Qatar to be stripped of 2022 Cup[edit]

[2] and [3] both say Qatar will be stripped, this should be added somewhere. IMO not the lead, as it's speculation though, either Host nation section, or controversy section. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:57, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

It is the same person for both articles and it is just her opinion that they will be stripped. She doesn't actually have any proof that it will happen. Seems to me, it is more likely someone trying to get her 15 minutes of fame. Chris1834 Talk 12:14, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
I've added it to the end of the controversies section. She's a notable figure in all this so her views do carry some weight. Valenciano (talk) 12:20, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Makes sense, I didn't have time to check them very carefully, but that's probably where I'd have put it. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:42, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
If we have multiple reliable sources reporting this, we can report it here: but we should do so in NPOV fashion, by reporting that she is making this assertion, not stating it as fact in Wikipedia's editorial voice. -- The Anome (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

We now have this from Domenico Scala (also here), the head of FIFA's audit and compliance committee: "Should there be evidence that the awards to Qatar and Russia came only because of bought votes, then the awards could be cancelled." Still only a possibility, but this is from a current FIFA official, on the record. I think this supersedes the Phaedra Almajid statement. -- Impsswoon (talk) 17:48, 7 June 2015 (UTC)