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malo's RfA

Thank you!

Wwoods, thanks for your support on my RFA. I was pleased to see that you supported me. And while I have thanked Durin for his impressive nomination of me, I would like to thank you for taking the time to introduce me to making templates long ago (back in august :) ). I feel pretty confident had you not taken the time to leave me a message on my talk page that I would never have been able to contribute has much as I have (so far) to Wikipedia. I hope to prove your trust in my abilities to be well founded. Thanks again for your support. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 04:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ship table

Thanks for the heads up about Netholic has been getting up to with the template. My answer would be an unqualified, "Continue to use the current template since I have got rid of all the meta templates." Since I have purged all the QIF parts with the new non-server-straining code I see no objection to using this version for the foreseeable future. David Newton 17:36, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

USS Francis Scott Key

I note that the FSK has an image of the man, rather than the sub. I was unable to find any images of the actual sub. However, we do not have an image of the man on the sub page for Henry L. Stimson (Image:Henry L. Stimson.jpg), but have one available in the article on the man. What's your feeling on including an image of the man rather than the boat? Avriette 18:30, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers

Hi! I don't mean to intrude, but I noticed you have made some edits to the Cheers article in the past! I've given the article a serious reworking and I hope it can garner your support on it's FAC. Thanks again! Staxringold 01:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Norfolk

Some of those ambiguous links to Norfolk should probably have gone to Naval Station Norfolk. —wwoods 06:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think that generally this would apply to all articles relating to ships? Rob 13:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I mean all the ship articles relating to the USN that refer to Norfolk unless it is Norfolk UK explicitly? Rob 22:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re Italic collision

No, thats my fault entirely. I was using a semiautomated program to change a bunch of articles from one category to another. It looks for html format tags and converts them to wiki markup (which is usually a good thing, at least from wikipedia's standpoint)...but as we can see in this case it wasn't clever enough in its substitutions. I'll have to check my other changes from this morning and see what other articles I've screwed up. :( --Syrthiss 18:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rilian/Rillian

Hi. Back in December you moved the article on Rilian, the Narnian character, to Rillian. In current US editions at least, the former spelling is correct. Do you have a source for the -ll- spelling? —wwoods 08:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I was mistaken. It ought to be Rilian, and not Rillian. NatusRoma 15:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

USS Secret

I don't know what the convention is for determining which flag a given ship flies (flew). I have added a small stub for the USS Secret. Could you check the flag? Thanks! Avriette 21:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help with templates for WP:Weapon

User:Fluzwup ('scot') and I are formulating an approach to get ballistics data added to the cartridge pages. I can procure the data, but both of us are pretty green as far as template work goes. You've done good work on the ships, and I was wondering whether you could help us with our endeavor? See [1]. Avriette 18:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, wwoods, I've got a rough version of what I was looking for. Do you suppose you might be able to debug the few issues I mention? Avriette 23:29, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal regarding Ryan G. Anderson.

I don't have a problem with moving the article per your suggestion. However, I suspect that such an effort might require action from a Wikipede with admin rights to make the move... Folajimi^(talk)

Just out of curiosity, what brought you to the stub? Folajimi^(talk)

Template:IN-FedRep popped up on my watchlist ("Reverted edits by Folajimi to last version by Wwoods"), so I went over to see what was happening, like Rikki-Tikki-Tavi. Incidently, if you want to disambiguate Dan Burton, I've no objection but the non-breaking spaces in the template keep the name and party from being split by the end of a line, which (IMO) is a Good Thing.

For naming bio articles, my order of preference is

[GivenName MI(s). FamilyName],
[GivenName MiddleName(s) FamilyName],
[GivenName FamilyName], and last,
[Name (characteristic)]

since I figure the variations on the name are what most people are going to look for and link to. When I do a bio article, mostly from DANFS, I put out redirects at the variations on the name, and often catch some pre-existing incoming links.

—wwoods 07:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your response has me rather baffled. Rikki-Tikki-Tavi? Dan Burton?? DANFS??? Perhaps I am missing some sort of hint here, but the connection to Ryan G. Anderson is anything but clear to me. Care to clarify? Folajimi^(talk)

[<--resetting]

Rikki-Tikki-Tavi—Throwaway literary allusion: 'The motto of all the mongoose family is "Run and find out," and Rikki-tikki was a true mongoose.'
Dan Burton—You had changed a link in Template:IN-FedRep from Dan Burton to Dan Burton (U.S. Congressman).[2] I wondered if that change should stand, so I clicked on through to those pages, and on to your User and Talk pages. "Ryan Anderson" was at the top, and Ryan Anderson (traitor) caught my eye.
DANFS—The Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships has articles on almost all US Navy ships, up to ~1968, including biographies of the people ships were named for. Since it's in the public domain, I've found it a handy source of information for Wikipedia.

—wwoods 02:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for clarification.

Today, I stumbled onto this WP page and was wondering how that really works. Can you reconcile those remarks with the action known as "speedy deletions?" Folajimi^(talk)

US whatever to United States Whatever

They're all being changed because (1) it was what people agreed to do on WP:CFD and (2) it is expansion of acronyms, which apparently fits some style guideline that I can't put my finger on at the moment (outside of being a speedy renaming criteria). I wasn't the one who closed those particular discussions (or participated in them, as an admin who does close discussions on cfd), I'm just one of the folks moving the articles into the new categories. :/ --Syrthiss 12:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Found the link now that I had more time... Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories) says that in "general" abbreviations should be expanded ("World War II" instead of "WW2") and further down, the by-country designation should be "in/of the United States"...so there's policy that is behind the nominations for renaming (as much work as it makes for me and poor Kbdank71). --Syrthiss 15:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't somebody have a bot that could handle this sort of thing? Gdr recently changed the {{disambig}} tags on a zillion pages. Well, thanks for the response. —wwoods 15:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:AllyUnion's NekoDaemon bot will find {{categoryredirect}} tags and move the articles to the renamed category...but for some of the smaller categories I've just been doing it with AutoWikiBrowser, since the bot appears a little backlogged. --Syrthiss 16:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CUP

I just created copper units of pressure, so the link can go in the cartridge template. scot 04:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More cartridge template experiments

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fluzwup#Template_experiment and down. Avriette managed to catch me in mid-creation, and apparently thinks not everyone has a 1600x1200 pixel screen. I suppose he might have a point--at work I have TWO 1600x1200 screens :) scot 01:29, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Thank you for your work correcting the capitalization of the title and chasing down the links to make them direct and correct. You may be interested to note that I have carved out the new Robert A. Heinlein bibliography article, per the note I placed four days ago in Talk:Robert A. Heinlein. Hu 02:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why have you changed "Is" to "is" throughout Wiki for "Harsh Mistress"? That flies in the face of all style manuals I've ever seen. Also of the book itself -- I have the first edition from 40 years ago, and believe me, the title is "Is", not "is".... Hayford Peirce 02:51, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oy. Well, that's the way I've usually seen it, or abbreviated MiaHM. —wwoods 03:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

San Pedro Bay

No problem. If you need anything else to be done, I am at your service. --Spot87 22:57, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Ship naming convention

Pardon me if this is in the wrong area, I use this feature so rarely that I am not completely confident in where to post this. My question is: Who created this naming convention?

In nearly every published source I have reviewed (I will admit that I don't know what DANFS does, but I consider it only a semi-legitimate source anyway) the appropriate formatting for a vessel like the USS Ajax would be to use the 1869 date.

Because the ship was on the Naval books for 7 years before she took that name there is a history for the Manayunk, however thin, and that date is used to distinguish the differences. In the case of the Manhattan, which wore the name Castor for two months in 1869, the convention I've seen would make the appropriate listings as Manhattan (1863) and Castor (1869). After the vessel reverted back to Manhattan in 1869 the original date would apply. For the vessels that bore three different names, likewise, whichever year that vessel took that name is the year that it should have listed.

After reviewing the existing conventions further on the link you provided, every other source I have seen treated "names" that the hull held the same way you treat "ID numbers" that the name held—a separate recognition of each one, with priority being given to the most famous, then the first, in that order.

That is generally the same way I have set my articles up as well. If there is going to be an issue with this I would be willing to go back and alter the pages to Wikipedia's naming conventions. Zurel Darrillian 15:06, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Digging into the page history, I see that Stan Shebs added that bit back in May 2003 ([3]). I presume the thinking was that launching is a unique event in a ship's history, unlike naming or commissioning.

DANFS doesn't seem to do anything to disambiguate—"monitor Manayunk was renamed Ajax (q.v.)". The online version simply adds Roman numerals, but that's obviously not considered part of the name of the ship.

At a minimum, please make redirects to catch any incoming links. Feel free to raise the subject on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ships) or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships. By the way, I've ginned up footers for the Amphitrite, Arkansas, Milwaukee, and Miantonomoh classes.

—wwoods 21:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CSC page

Just to let you know, I set up a page for Consolidated Steel Corporation. I've been going through a search to wiki-link other pages that mention Consolidated Steel (mostly Navy ships so far), but if I miss some, look out for red links that could be blue. Zaui 17:56, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Groundhog Day influenced Star Gate?

Regarding your recent edit to the Groundhog Day (film) article, it is difficult without a source to be certain that the Star Gate episode was actually inspired by the Groundhog Day movie instead of, say, Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus. Do you have a reputable source that says SG1's inspiration was really the Groundhog Day movie? The Rod 00:43, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly of interest

User:Avriette/ShipImgQuery and related User:Avriette/Task List. Thoughts? aa v ^ 03:42, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So updated. Interesting that navsource has photos which are claimed to be USN photos, which danfs doesn't have.

Search Google Images for USS Adirondack (AGC-15) at *.mil navsource.org

for example. If only mediawiki had some way to iterate over data, I could just incoporate the "linked here" data off IIH.png. aa v ^ 00:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Imdb

Hi, I don't think the redirect should be protected, because the template on itself is pretty ambiguous and I know it's caused problems before (because people keep trying to use it for film titles as you've seen). If someone ever gets a bot to replace the template on the pages that currently use it with {{imdb name}}, changing it back to a dab page afterwards would probably be good, to prevent the same problems in the future. But before that, it should be kept as a redirect :) - Bobet 17:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 :* {{User:Avriette/ShipImgQuery|name=USS Adirondack|num=AGC-15}}
 :for example. If only mediawiki had some way to iterate over data, I could just incoporate the "linked here" data off IIH.png. <font size="-1">[[user:avriette | aa]] [[user talk:avriette | v]][[special:contributions/avriette | ^]]</font> 00:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
+== [[Template:Imdb]] ==
+Hi, I don't think the redirect should be protected, because the template on itself is pretty ambiguous and I know it's caused problems before (because people keep trying to use it for film titles as you've seen). If someone ever gets a bot to replace the template on the pages that currently use it with {{tl|imdb name}}, changing it back to a dab page afterwards would probably be good, to prevent the same problems in the future. But before that, it should be kept as a redirect :) - [[User:Bobet|Bobet]] 17:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)