Talk:Winona Ryder

List of thieves

Zondor recently added Ryder to List of thieves, which is in the category Category:Lists of people by occupation. I think it's fairly clear that theft is not her occupation, so one of these ought to be changed. Bovlb 17:54:48, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

You mean, because she's only a recreational thief, and actor by profession? How about adding her claim that Mel Gibson called her an oven dodger http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4000653,00.html --41.19.29.210 (talk) 13:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Anon 41, do you realize you're responding to a message over five years old? Cresix (talk) 04:08, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not a hiatus

The article uses the word "hiatus" in connection with her activities from 2001-2005 several times. It's nonsense. She worked in 2000, didn't work in 2001, worked in 2002, and then didn't work until 2005. That's scarcely unusual for people in her business. There are several other periods in her career where she wasn't active for two or three years. I've taken it upon myself to fix this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poihths (talk • contribs) 12:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I am afraid I cannot accept your recent change to the article on the basis given so far for more than one reason.

During and after her arrest Ms Rider could not gain insurance to work on the set of a move / film (until the conviction of grand theft was quashed to misdemeanours in 2005 approximately), thus she did not make any movies / films while she had this full conviction.

The films that were released in the time period between this Zoolander, Mr Deeds and Simone were all filmed before she was arrested. The film The Day My God Died was narrated by Ms Ryder therefore there was no problem with gaining insurance.

The word hiatus is correctly used in my opinion because it accurately reflects the situation and is backed up by the biography on the renowned Biography channel (which takes its information primarily from the biography written by Nigel Goodall). Biography Channel

I am open to other proposals you may have which can be backed up. Monkeymanman (talk) 19:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree with the original poster. It may be a hiatus, but the films seem to contradict that she was on one. I am adding "that were filmed prior to her shoplifting incident" so this actually makes sense. Sleepeeg3 (talk) 04:29, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree that this could be included to show why the gap in career is described as such. Monkeymanman (talk) 20:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

i have included it with different wording. Monkeymanman (talk) 17:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Better. Sleepeeg3 (talk) 06:40, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Dumb Trend

What's with this Judaocentric trend to include in every biography on wikipedia sentences like "X describes themselves as Jewish because they once said ____" They could once describe themselves as a pterodactyl, we're not going to put "Winona Ryder once said she was a pterodactyl." The woman is half Jewish by ethnicity. She doesn't appear to be a serious adherent to any specific religion. Why is that not enough? Why do we have to include every ludicrous detail about this person's introspective identity? It's a wikipedia biography, not a Freudian psychoanalytic essay on the woman. 96.251.79.147 (talk) 22:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

My guess is it's because without such notations, editors come around and remove categories and text, saying that there's no evidence the person self-identifies as Jewish. The best example of this process is probably Talk:Bill_Maher#Is Maher Jewish?, which resulted in the addition of the phrase "He subsequently self-identified himself as ethnically half-Jewish" to Maher's biography. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 09:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

You can't "establish" yourself an ethnicity. You are or aren't. There's no reason to include whether the person "says outloud" that they're Jewish or not. We don't do this for any other ethnicity. 96.251.79.147 (talk) 10:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Might be an idea to raise this at the films project discussion, or ask for RFC. It has been in the article for some time and i am quite sure it was there when it was nominated good article. Might also be an idea to leave it in for now as it did have consensus. Monkeymanman (talk) 13:59, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Is there a page where a consensus has been found to deal with biographies of people with Jewish descent in this way? If so, direct me to it. 96.251.79.147 (talk) 14:21, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

There wont be one. Each article is focussed on individually with guidelines set out by each project. In this case Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers. This article did have consensus for that inclusion (i would judge that by the fact it got past GA status with it included). If you are unsure how to go about it i could raise it on the noticeboard and ask for any outside help. Although with it being sourced reliably that she actually said it then it might be a forgone conclusion. Monkeymanman (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

The second picture looks like Julia Roberts.....

I am not a specialist but as a fan of Julia Roberts I am almost convinced that the picture in the middle is of Julia not Winona Ryder. Please correct it if I am right.

You're not serious? It looks nothing like Julia Roberts. And the source file of the image by the photographer states that it's Winona Ryder. Almost everything about those two actresses is different: nose, mouth, eyes, hair. As a fan of Julia Roberts, maybe you should take a look at some more pics of her. Cresix (talk) 20:56, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

The Crucible

There are many comparisons in this film that are prevalent to today, and religeons spawning from ancient books. There are two books that have been used for what is not sound to a human being, yet no one reports things this way. Many seem to have sold fears, and others perceive that they are needed, instead of proving what is sound psychologically. Kabbalah is a relative form of Mysticism that brings many results, and can be proven psychologically to improve outlooks for those with mental troubles.69.96.8.3 (talk) 12:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

And what has this got to do with Ryder? --BwB (talk) 15:36, 27 December 2010 (UTC)