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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,359596,00.html . Please do not reinsert her. [[User:Asarelah|Asarelah]] ([[User talk:Asarelah|talk]]) 01:56, 15 October 2010 (UTC) |
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,359596,00.html . Please do not reinsert her. [[User:Asarelah|Asarelah]] ([[User talk:Asarelah|talk]]) 01:56, 15 October 2010 (UTC) |
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== Michael Huffington == |
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Michael Huffington is openly bisexual |
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Marilyn Manson?
Why isn't Manson included in this list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.231.65.112 (talk) 05:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Because you haven't given us a reliable source. Ward3001 (talk) 16:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Some problems with Jörg Haider
Two things are problematic with the mentioning of Jörg Haider:
- A subtitled picture of him is shwon, but he is not listed in the table, which is inconsistent
- The article about him claims that it is forbidden to make statements about him being homo- or bisexual, so maybe Wikipedia shouldn't do so.
Prauch (talk) 22:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
John F. Kennedy, Jr.?
Why isn't John F. Kennedy, Jr. not included in this list? REFERENCE: Heymann, C. David (2008). American Legacy: The Story of John & Caroline Kennedy. New York: Simon & Schuster. ISBN 9780743497398. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.123.3.136 (talk) 16:37, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Robert Mapplethorpe
I've removed Robert Mapplethorpe, which is likely to be controversial. The sourcing for the existing statement refers to "Mapplethorpe: A Biography", Random House, 1995, a book I happen to own, without a page number. I have not read every page, but I've spent some time looking through, here's what I see as the pros and cons of his inclusion:
In favor of inclusion:
- He had unquestioned relatiosnhips with Patti Smith and Lisa Lyon. I think it's fair to say, at least with respect to Smith, that if we were descriptively talking about sexual behavior that RM's history was biseuxal.
In favor of exclusion:
- While it may be in part bisexual erasure, but there's no sourced indication that RM ever identified as bisexual, the reference uses gay or homosexual so far as I've seen. On page 230 comes as close as I could find to countering that saying that [Robert] thought of himself as "mostly homosexual". It's my understanding that WP's policies on describing sexual orientation give preference to self-identification, and we have no sourcing at all for self-identification as bisexual.
- The word bisexual does not appear in the index.
- The pages identified in the index under RM's orientation do not refer to pages that use the word bisexual, save for a reference on page 59 that "numerous Pratt students were declaring themselves "bisexual" (note scare quotes) but with no usage of that word, directly or indirectly, attributing that label to RM.
I think the latter argument is (sadly to me) stronger and more in keeping with Wikipedia policy. --j⚛e deckertalk 20:03, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Here is the source that indicates that Jameson now identifies as "totally hetero". http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,359596,00.html . Please do not reinsert her. Asarelah (talk) 01:56, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Michael Huffington
Michael Huffington is openly bisexual