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Westbury Rugby Club

This was my first attempt at contributing. I believe this article should remain. It is notable for two reasons.

1) it is the first rugby club in the history of the town and explains how it came into being

2 it details the positive social aspects of a developing community and the cycle through education into adulthood. The whole philosophy of western society.

(501 not out (talk) 13:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC))

• Reason 1) is not strong enough and 2) is just pretentious waffle. Amateur clubs are almost always deemed not notable enough. You can try deletion review but don't expect much joy. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 14:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

1. Other amatuer clubs are on wikipedia: North Dorset Rugby Football Club
2. Is a small market town in West Wiltshire and scoietal values really pretentious ?
3. the article is factual and of historical interest - maybe not to you?
4. This existing wikipedia link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dorset_Rugby_Football_Club talks about Westbury Rugby Club. Dorset and Wilts Vase North Dorset have won the vase 4 times in recent years. 2002/2003 season beating Westbury in the final.
5. RHaworth's answers are all worth a read for their comedy value!

(501 not out (talk) 19:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC))

• I repeat: pretentious twaddle - it was about a rugby club - where did it say anything about: "detailing the positive social aspects of a developing community and the cycle through education into adulthood". I also repeat: you can try deletion review. Refreshing to have my style described as amusing rather than anything worse. Even I do sometimes wonder whether I am coming in too strong but as I say on my my user page, I believe I remain within the bounds of parliamentary language. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 20:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Douglas Wemyss Solicitors

This message was written on an invalid live article page called Douglas Wemyss Solicitors prefix:User talk:RHaworth (currently tagged for CSD); I have copied it over to this talk page. I think it is regarding Douglas Wemyss Solicitors  Chzz  ►  23:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

On 30 November 2010, at 14:09 you deleted an article I made called Douglas Wemyss Solicitors giving the following rationale: (A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

I have recreated this article in a userpage: User:AndriLimma/Douglas Wemyss Solicitors. I feel I have addressed your feedback and established the significance you felt was lacking. Could you take a look and give me your feedback and guidance. Regards and thanks, AndriLimma — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndriLimma (talk • contribs) 23:35, 22 February 2011

• I am not entirely impressed by your references. I doubt whether the Evington Echo could be counted a notable, reliable source! But you can see what the folks at AfC think about it. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 01:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The Evington Post may not look fancy but it is a local newspaper. Anyway it is only a supplementary source so I'm removing it. Apart from that, do you think the page is good enough to be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndriLimma (talk • contribs) 07:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Personally, I would say why are solicitors more notable that thousands of other local companies? But I have to admit that we have articles about them. I repeat, try AfC. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 10:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Gonabit page

I re-read over the wiki guidelines and I was not writing anything that could be considered advertising...I merely copied the form of the sister company's web page. I live in dubai and this company has been very news worthy lately...I would really like to continue contributing to wikipedia...can you please tell me how to make this page live.....I will edit it and repost it. Thanks, DREW — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewskimillmills (talk • contribs) 10:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• You have definitely gone a bit too far - it was blatant advertising. Has it crossed your mind that the word "our" in an article is sufficient to condemn it to speedy deletion? — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 10:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Giridharilal Kedia

Dear Administrator, I request you to please undelete the article Giridharilal Kedia because the topic is notable. you can read the book Utsharg to Giridharilal Kedia published by JBD Press India Ltd, ISBN:9788184099836. You can also see the page published by IITM, Biodata by Lions Club International 113.19.34.249 (talk) 12:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• What has changed since the AfD discussion for this guy to become notable? Given the AfD decision, you must raise the matter at deletion review. I have e-mailed you your text. Hint: the first paragraph of a bio should state why the subject is notable! — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 13:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I have send you a email. Please check it.Odisha1 (talk) 17:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Why e-mail me? What is wrong with this page or your sandbox? The only thing that would cause me to re-instate would be links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources and you have made absolutely no attempt to provide any. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 18:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Swami Karmveer deleted

Dear Rhaworth, I had created a page for Swami Karmveer who is the most authentic and learned Yoga Guru in India in present days. You will not find much about him on net because he’s a true saint and keep a distance from media or any kind of promotion. I, and several others, strongly believe that he’s a person of significance. Would you please let me know what more I could do to make you believe it too. With regards, Shabischon (talk) 13:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• What could you do? Wait until decent evidence of his notability is published. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 13:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Dennis Crommett

Dennis Crommett was started and then listed for speedy deletion, and was in turn, deleted. I work at Signature Sounds Recordings, the label that is releasing Crommett's upcoming 2011 album. We would like to have a page about him. He is listed in the Winterpills article, and it would be great to have a link to his name, telling a bio about his music career and solo work. How do we go about getting this page back up and keeping it listed? Thanks. Allie Signature Sounds — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alliesignaturesounds (talk • contribs) 16:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Blatant if nothing else. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks the guy is notable and writes about him here. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 16:24, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant Failures article

Dear sir, you just deleted my article on the Institute of Brilliant failures. You mention that this is promotion. However, the Institute is fully ooen source and non-profit. I created the article because many people want to know more about it and we have been interviewed recently by a couple of news media, like BBC World Radio. This gave me the idea to put it on the Wikipedia in the hooe that many people will enjoy and learn from it. I regret that you have interpreted it as a 'selling attempt' which it is not. I am professor in open innovation and particularly interested in crowd sourcing, so I am a bjt disappointed about this first experience as an editor with Wikipedia. If you have suggestions to improve the text, I will be happy to learn from it and make changes. Kind regards, Paul Iske —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.170.81.142 (talk) 23:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• It is already stated twice on this page that I don't talk to IP addresses. You are a typical single-purpose account. Only here to promote one thing. You have proved your point admirably, you are a failure at learning Wikipedia conventions. As I have said countless times, wait; when your institute becomes notable, someone with no COI will write about it here. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 23:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Richard F. Edlich

Very highly notable, and sources available. i removed the prod tag & asked the author to rewrite--if they do not do so promptly, I shall, for this bio is worth the trouble. I tend not to rewrite obvious copypaste for barely notable figures, but try to do one or two a week for the most important. DGG ( talk ) 00:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Aspen Network of Development Entrepreneurs

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++++ delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.

Tonny Rutakirwa

I create a page titled Tonny Rutakirwa and I found it deleted in speedy deletion.Since I'm new I make accidently by placing spam tag on my own article.I try to delete the tag and finally found the article was deleted. It was my mistake and I hope the page will be undeleted as soon as possible.FIRELORD767 (talk) 02:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• No, you did not place the spam tag yourself. It was written in a spammy tone and is probably an autobio. Please do not shout. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 09:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Hines Industries

I have restored this article as you deleted it under G12 and we had previously confirmed OTRS permission for the text. I have no opinion on the notability of this company as I have not checked the references. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Flux Pavilion

Why did you delete the Flux Pavilion page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.8.7.21 (talk) 14:38, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't it say he deleted it because it was an "article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject" ? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• I don't talk to IP addresses so be grateful that the Demiurge has answered for me. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 14:49, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Medline Industries

Why did you delete the User:Nalytics/Medline Industries page? I was under the impression that this is a sandbox area that I can use as I please. Nalytics (talk) 20:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• In general, yes. But not when you are creating advertising or near-advertising. Please read the {{uw-coi}} message I have placed on your user talk page and wait until someone with no COI comes along and writes about your company. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 21:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Isaac Tutumlu

Sorry, we don't understand why you deleted our race driver's page, this guy is a star in Spanish and Turkish racing and is really famous now. He races together with Emilio de Villota, whose page IS in Wikipedia, and we are surprised by your decision. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.83.146.147 (talk) 12:41, 25 February 2011 (UTC) Sorry forgot to log in the first time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The7studios (talk • contribs) 12:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• International marketing agencies are not welcome as Wikipedia contributors. When Isaac becomes notable in the English-speaking world, you may be confident that someone with no COI will write about him here. de Villota has been racing since before Isaac was born - is that a possible difference? — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 13:06, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Pete Carr deletion

I noticed that you deleted the Pete Carr page. I do have documentation of permission to use the materials, but am not certain how to get those to you. Should the owner of the rights to the materials email those directly to you or to Wikipedia? If you approve, then could I please have access to the original material? Thanks CAPSHKC 19:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)