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* Did you consider correcting the shouting and removing the ®s before going to DRV? — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] {{toolbar|separator=dot|[[::User talk:RHaworth|talk]] | [[::Special:Contributions/RHaworth|contribs]] }} 21:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
* Did you consider correcting the shouting and removing the ®s before going to DRV? — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] {{toolbar|separator=dot|[[::User talk:RHaworth|talk]] | [[::Special:Contributions/RHaworth|contribs]] }} 21:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


They should have all been removed, with the exception of the one in the first line. I was just following suit with how [[Time_(magazine) | TIME Magazine]] clarified their capitalized branding. This example was mentioned in the Manual of Style you sent me, so I thought it would be acceptable. If it is not, then I can remove. thanks!
They should have all been removed in my [[User:Kilgoretrout89/sandbox | sandbox version]], with the exception of the one in the first line. I was just following suit with how [[Time_(magazine) | TIME Magazine]] clarified their capitalized branding. This example was mentioned in the Manual of Style you sent me, so I thought it would be acceptable. If it is not, then I can remove. thanks!


[[User:Kilgoretrout89|Kilgoretrout89]] ([[User talk:Kilgoretrout89|talk]]) 17:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Kilgoretrout89|Kilgoretrout89]] ([[User talk:Kilgoretrout89|talk]]) 17:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 22:59, 14 April 2011

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New James Layfield page

Hello, a few weeks ago I enquired about the James Layfield page which had been deleted. You emailed over the original page contents and asked me to look at amending some of the content, re-uploading it and then letting you know once I had done it so you could restore the previous edit history. Just to let you know that I've now uploaded the new page. There is an image I would like to upload to be inline with the content, right now I'm still learning the ropes on how to go about doing that properly. If there is anything you would like me to look at on the page, or any pointers you might have let me know. Thanks. Parbjohal (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I humbly accept the NeoVSP deletion :-)

NewB mistakes I guess :-) Anyhow - I was wondering if you put the error in this quote "change his spots nor the leopard his skin" on purpose. — Oded — Preceding unsigned comment added by OdedIlan (talk • contribs) 06:21, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Request for restore (or text) for a deleted page

Dear RHaworth, I would like to request your consideration in restoring Queplix article which was deleted by you awhile ago. I realize that I have a conflict of interest in editing the page, but would like your decision to restore the page and open it for editing by others. The Queplix name is referenced in several places throughout Wikipedia and these references appear as stub (red links). Several noted scholars and research engineers in the area of data management where Queplix operates requested to restore the page. Queplix is referenced on many other data management info pages (companies) since 2006. I would like to at least, if possible, request a text of that deleted article. External credible sources which may be useful for you to determine notability of restoring the Queplix article:

Respectfully submitted, Syaskin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC).

First of all, thank you for sending me the text! Secondly, I reviewed the text from the last revision and while it looks informative, properly formatted and for a notable subject, its lacking the credible sources and references i.e. the ones i mentioned above for example. Would you be willing to reconsider restoring the Queplix article, and I will ask credible people in the industry without COI to the article to contribute the references for notability in accordance with Wikipedia policies? Best regards Syaskin (talk)

  • My normal advice is wait until someone with no COI thinks the company is notable and writes about it. Given clear AfD and DRV decisions, I am certainly not going to restore it for you. If you really insist on trying to get an article in, I suggest you read carefully this DRV and this in my talk archive and make another attempt at deletion review. Note in particular the need for: a sandbox draft, proper references and a sponsor. I have e-mailed you the text as at each of the three deletions. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 23:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

HattieMichelle

I am a student at Syracuse University. I am taking a class on trans-nationalism and NGOs. We are doing a wikiproject- making or editing a page about NGO's and US public policy. I am a bit lost and no one this far has been able to help me. The due date is quickly approaching (Apr 26). I have research but idk what to do with it. I do not know if I can edit a page. When I tried before, ppl booted my information. I need my research to stay on until I turn my work in lol. I hate to beg, but you would you please help me. Please.... thx, HattieMichelle (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

  • "I do not know if I can edit a page". Of course you can edit any page. "idk", "ppl" & "lol" - on Wikipedia it helps comprehensibility if you spell words out in full - some of us do not do SMS! People booted what information, where? According to your contributions you have not yet edited any articles at all. If you have edited without being logged in, your tutor has a perfect right to ignore any such edits. But I would be willing to look at them if you point me to them by means of links such as: this to a past version or as a "diff". "I need my research to stay". You cannot rely on it - Wikipedia is not a free host. The safest thing is to put it on your own or the university's website. But if you edit an existing article and your changes get deleted, you can always point your tutor to your edits in the manner shown above. I hope you are also aware of our no original research policy. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 02:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

please be gentle

Hey Roger! Please remember to be extra gentle with the students, such as User:HattieMichelle above; that's what Wikipedia Ambassadors are for, to give a warm and gentle introduction to Wikipedia to these newcomers. Also, it's important to leave talkback notices on their userpages if you're going to respond on your own, because most newcomers won't know to check back for replies. Cheers--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 00:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Aspen Network of Development Entrepreneurs

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++++ delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.

Space Camp Spain

Hi RHaworth, May I ask how I can improve my article to avoid the deletion? Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xala22 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually, reliable sources in Spanish might be enough, if they are good sources and there are a few of them. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Ta!

was about to report it (Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)).

Sven Kullander (physicist)

In the talk page, as per instructions, I explained that I was awaiting details from Mats Lewan to put in this page. I got the information for inclusion a few hours later and found the page had already been deleted. Was there some problem with just waiting a bit to see if the page got fixed in the meantime?

Anyway, quite frankly it is not worth my time working on this, so having repaired the damage caused by consequent broken links I'll just drop the idea. Brian Josephson (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Wikipedia simply does not need placeholders. When you have an article ready, post it. Until then it is better to have red links that indicate the lack of an article. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 17:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

There already is an article for a Sven Kullander so the situation is not that simple. It is unfortunate that the person who referred to SK in the first place got the wrong person and linked to him but as Lewan had told me of the existence of the Swedish page it seemed a good idea to link to it (and will help to avoid errors in the future; if people don't like it they can always use the amazing back button). Incidentally, the W'pedia community has got me to thank for spotting there was an inconsistency in the first place (that the link did not go to a physicist), and helping to set the record straight. Brian Josephson (talk) 17:37, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Update: it has been agreed that, given that the English editors appear to be significantly less tolerant than Swedish ones, producing an English version is not worth the effort even though we have some text now -- there's always Google Translate, for those who want to know what the Swedish version says. -- Brian Josephson (talk) 21:10, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Agreed by you and who else? What an amazing fuss considering that I did not delete anything of any substance. Also please note that we do not have moderators on Wikipedia - the difference is very significant. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 21:41, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedian seeking a mentor

Hello, I live in California, teach and tutor on a part time basis. I previously practiced as a CPA, and worked in Public Accounting for a number of years, had my own very tiny practice, and decided to change professions, for a number of reasons.

I opened my Wikipedia account in 2006 or 2007, and began contributing.

I was formerly adopted by A-Nobody, who was pleasant, but sadly, not very helpful. In early 2010, I became less and less enthusiastic about my participation in Wikipedia projects, articles, and the group as a whole; my lack of enthusiasm really stemmed from not understanding the Wikipedia community, the politics, people, details and nuances of contributing. Just feeling very out of touch. Well, when I came back to my user page, looked around, and tried to catch up, I found that A-Nobody has been indefinitely banned. When I made an inquiry or two, about the circumstances, and the fact that I was interested in being adopted, again, I was not given a reply.

Today, on live help, I was advised to seek a mentor through the Ambassador Program, at Wikipedia. Please let me know if you think we could make a good match.

Thank you, Kat. Irshgrl500 20:08, 9 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irshgrl500 (talk • contribs)

  • My first reaction is: you have a reasonably sound contributions history. On your user talk page, I did not see a single human complaining about your edits. So why do you feel a need for a mentor? I steer well clear of Wikipedia politics. For example, I looked at this discussion about A Nobody with total apathy. I am not in the habit of "stalking" other editors' work. But if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. Incidentally re the fact that SineBot came in after you: I believe the problem is that you have created a custom signature in your preferences but it does not create any link to your user or user_talk page. Feel free to use my signature format: — {{subst:user1|Irshgrl500}} or simply cancel your custom signature. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 21:41, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello Roger, Thank you for your replies. Perhaps my motivation in seeking a mentor is my lack of confidence in understanding some of the applications in Wikipedia, and the "nuance" of the communities, within Wikipedia. (i.e. - the accepted protocol of certain projects and not being or feeling connected.) I suppose this could be attributed to my lack of participation, in various projects but that stems from the lack of confidence, thus it is a wash. An example of my lack of understanding is with the "term" Sockpuppeting (which was a contributing reason for A-Nobody's ban, was it not?). I am not entirely clear on the meaning of Sockpuppeting. I think it basically is a form of fraud by a User, by means of identify. I.e. - signing on under different User names or accounts, in order to contribute. Again, I am not clear with reasons or potential User behavior involving the term Sockpuppeting. My thoughts at this point are, to proceed with my participation in Wikipedia, while becoming more committed and involved in writing articles, edits and with the projects I am a member of. Could you be available for intermittent questions, or advice? I can be a bit "high maintenance" but would keep the questions to a few per week. Let me know what you think. Lastly, thank you for the compliment with your comment regarding my talk page. My objective in communicating on any talk page is to not offend while making a point. However, at times, my time and efforts in my achieving my objective are in excess. For example, two years ago on my talk page, efforts with my written replies, in 2 long paragraphs made to A COMPUTER BLOT! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irshgrl500 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

---Signature Issue BAFFLES ME--- Even after applying your signature format, I am redirected and interrupeted in edits by the Sinebot. WHY?????? This should be so simple!!![[::User:Irshgrl500|Irshgrl500]] (talk · contribs) 16:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[[::User:Irshgrl500|Irshgrl500]] (talk · contribs) 16:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

  • I am very happy to reply to intermittent questions. The first paragraph of Wikipedia:Sock puppetry describes that problem very clearly. User:Vaznecek is one example of a sock puppet - created to avoid a ban. The term is not "blot" but "bot" - as in robot. Signature now seems fixed. With this edit you simply forgot to sign. It is fine in this edit but you should add " — " or " -- " at the front of it. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 10:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Roger, thank you for your reply. Sock pupperty, is as I thought, a form of fraud on the User's part, for what ever reason. (to evade what ever consequences, vandalize, etc.) And I should have recognized that the term is "bot", not "blot". When I have questions, I leave will a message, here on your talk page. Again, thank you for your help. Kat [[::User:Irshgrl500|Irshgrl500]] (talk · contribs) 13:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC) 

[[::User:Irshgrl500|Irshgrl500]] (talk · contribs)  13:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of memorials -- Understand

RHaworth, Thank you very much for helping me with the understanding of posting memorials. I am a new editor here, and I thought I have read everyting, I must have missed that. I do have a quick question. I am a little confused on the copyright tags. I just go permission to use the club house photo from the person that took it, but now I do not know what tag I should use. Thank you in advance for helping out a rookie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shortpockets (talk • contribs) 05:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Fastsigns

RHaworth, I just wanted to get an understanding for why the new Fastsigns page was deleted. I have looked at the description for section G11 (speedy deletion), and I feel like I have abided by the rules. If you would let me know how I could improve or fix the page so it is not removed, that would be great. Thanks! Kilgoretrout89 (talk) 22:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

  • This guideline says that we do not SHOUT the company's name even if they do so themselves and we do not need ® anywhere in an article such as this. When I saw both these guidelines flagrantly violated, I assumed the article must have been posted by someone from the company. Also there was just one independent reference - the others being press releases. If you attend to these matters you may find a sympathetic reception at deletion review. I would send you your text if you had e-mail set up. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 23:56, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much RHaworth. I was unaware that the capitalization and ® were the problem. I will also add in some additional references. One question, the guidelines you directed me to seem to be for simple undeletion requests. Since I need to make corrections before requesting an undeletion, what steps should I take? Thank you again, I look forward to working this out! — Kilgoretrout89 (talk) 14:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Rhaworth, Thank you so much for your guidance, I am learning as I go! I have just updated the page, placed it in my sandbox, and put the request through on the deletion review page (which links to my sandbox.) I hope that works! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilgoretrout89 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

They should have all been removed in my sandbox version, with the exception of the one in the first line. I was just following suit with how TIME Magazine clarified their capitalized branding. This example was mentioned in the Manual of Style you sent me, so I thought it would be acceptable. If it is not, then I can remove. thanks!

Kilgoretrout89 (talk) 17:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Semi-Protection

Hello Roger, How does one semi-protect an article? Is this procedure only available to Administrators? I am asking about this procedure because there is an article I made a few edits to, and left messages regarding the edits, which has been edited, needlessly, over the last 2 years. (Not all edits were needless.) The article is a biography about a 13 year old, who committed suicide over Cyber bullying. Some of the edits have taken form of opinions, and been the product of "hyped" interests, possibly due to the fact that the story was fictionalized on the TV show, Law and Order. Someone suggested semi-protecting the article, back in Sept. 2010, and was ignored. I actually think semi-protecting the article is a fantastic idea. And the article was actually the product of vandalism, and the User who vandalized the article was banned. Thank you, Kat [[::User:Irshgrl500|Irshgrl500]] (talk · contribs) 13:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Correct: only admins can protect or semi-protect. So why leave me to guess which article you are talking about - give me a link for goodness sake! The suggestion in 2010 Sept was not ignored. C.Fred's replied to say the level of vandalism was not high enough to justify protection. I think nothing has changed but if C.Fred now thinks different, I will let him protect. You just have to resign yourself to watching the page - you do have a watchlist don't you? When you revert an edit make sure to leave a message such as this or this. Also check the vandal's contribution history: if they have done several recent acts of vandalism, report it at WP:AIV. Look at a few articles in Category:Wikipedia semi-protected pages, see what was happening to them before semi-protection and compare that with the level of vandalism on the page about Megan. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 15:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. [[::User:Irshgrl500|Irshgrl500]] (talk · contribs) 12:10, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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