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:You've provided some interesting detail and background. I'll digest it and try to fix the article up (unless somebody beats me to it). Come check it out and leave your opinion in a couple of days. [[User:Wiggy!|Wiggy!]] ([[User talk:Wiggy!|talk]]) 04:51, 5 January 2011 (UTC) |
:You've provided some interesting detail and background. I'll digest it and try to fix the article up (unless somebody beats me to it). Come check it out and leave your opinion in a couple of days. [[User:Wiggy!|Wiggy!]] ([[User talk:Wiggy!|talk]]) 04:51, 5 January 2011 (UTC) |
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==[[Henry Kissinger]] is honory member (and life-long supporter) of Fürth == |
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should that be mentioned in the article ??? |
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German football league system (can be confusing)
There was a fair few mistakes in the article about which division the club played in from 1945 to 1974, tried to correct this. The pre-1974 system can be a bit confusing:
- Oberliga = 1st division (until 1963)
- 2nd Oberliga = 2nd division (until 1963)
- Regionalliga = 2nd division (from 1963 to 1974)
- Regionalliga = 3rd division (from 1994 to 2008)
- Regionalliga = 4th division (from 2008)
- No Regionalliga from 1974 to 1994!
- Oberliga = always one league below Regionalliga (from 1963)
EA210269 03:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Crest
What is the black and red thing in the crest? I'm just curious what exactly it is, as I can't make it out. It looks almost like a flag of some kind, but it is of a wierd shape, so I don't think that's it. Can anyone help? -- Grant.Alpaugh 22:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- From de:Wikipedia - The description of the coat of arms is : divided green and gold, a silver bar above, below a red lined black wooden shoe. So its a wooden shoe taken from the coat of arms of Vestenbergsgreuth which in turn was taken from the coat of arms of a dominant local family known as the Holzschuher (the Woodshoes). Wiggy! (talk) 00:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks. -- Grant.Alpaugh 04:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Schroeck
This player has both german and philippin passport (german father and philippin mother), but according to FIFA and UEFA rules he is listed as german player. And in fact he is: born and living in Germany, native german speaker and allways playing in german football clubs. He was asked for playing for philippin national team but didn´t agree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kleeblatt (talk • contribs) 09:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Please, guys, before changing Schroeck´s nationality: do a research, give evidence (espc. official sources from club, football associations etc.) and discuss it. Thanks.Kleeblatt (talk) 10:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Fürth and Vestenbergsgreuth -a merger?
The article says: The current club was formed only very recently out of 1 July 1996 merger of traditional side Spielvereinigung Fürth and the senior football side of newcomer Turn- und Sportverein Vestenbergsgreuth.
Well, Vestenbergsgreuth withdraw it´s team from football league and "Greuth" football side joined into SpVgg Fürth. Therefore SpVgg took "Greuther" as a new part of it´s name, but they didn´t found a new club. It is still old SpVgg founded in 1903. "Merger" has different meanings and I don´t know the correct juridical terms in english language. In German there´s a difference between "Fusion" (two or more partners unite and found a new club, bank, enterprise etc.) and "Beitritt" (one partner is incorporated into another). According to german law and football association bylaws it was a "Beitritt" and not a "Fusion". See f.e. SpVgg homepage and a new book about the club "Das Kleeblatt - 100 Jahre Fußball im Fürther Ronhof" by Jürgen Schmidt, a journalist and former player of II.squad. In 1996 "Greuth" chairman Helmut Hack became chairman of SpVgg and seven former Greuther players joined the squad, but the club stayed in Fürth, kept it´s old stadium, most members and supportes were from Fürth, they kept their old colours white and green, their tradition etc. Not only for juridical reasons but esp. in emotional and psychological view this is very important for most club members and supportes. Kleeblatt (talk) 16:58, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- You've provided some interesting detail and background. I'll digest it and try to fix the article up (unless somebody beats me to it). Come check it out and leave your opinion in a couple of days. Wiggy! (talk) 04:51, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Henry Kissinger is honory member (and life-long supporter) of Fürth
should that be mentioned in the article ???
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