Talk:Regency of Algiers

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the same template, History of modern states of oto.... is repeated twice — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzlinker (talk • contribs) 15:01, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Omar-Toons (talk) 08:41, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for Comments

• Tahert14 claimed radical change was done. But I repaired this article with sources. Unfortunately, we have to add {{systemic bias}}. User tried to archive his/her own POV in this article with removing reliable sources. User must use talk pages and sourses. User tries to nationalize articles such as Invasion of Algiers (1775), Spanish expedition to Oran (1732), Bombardment of Algiers (1784), Treaty with Algeria (1815), Second Barbary War, Action of 28 November 1751, ‎Bombardment of Algiers (1816), Bombardment of Algiers (1783), Spanish expedition to Oran (1732), ‎Invasion of Algiers (1775), Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792), Battle off Cape Palos, Invasion of Algiers (1775), Battle of Cádiz (1669)‎ etc. Takabeg (talk) 13:54, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Takabeg: Is there a specific question this RfC is asking about? RfCs are best if there is a particular sentence or paragraph from the article that is under dispute. What is the particular issue with this article? If you think that a particular editor is violating WP POV policy, it may be better to use the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard process: anyone can post a request for help there. Another choice, for reporting over-all behavior problems with a particular user is the Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct process. --Noleander (talk) 16:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

• (1) An RFC is usually used when editors have failed to achieve consensus on the talk page. In this case, it appears that editors have not even tried to do so. List your reasons for preferring a given edit or edits on the talk page, assume good faith, and try to see if you can get consensus. Use RFC if it fails. (2) I agree largely with Noleander's analysis. (3) I don't understand why this isn't merged into Regency of Algiers already. (4) The sourced content is preferable to unsourced assertions. This material should perhaps be improved, but should not be removed. (5) I agree that User:Tahert14's behavior is problematic, and is POV-pushing. – Quadell ^(talk) 18:14, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
  • P.S. There is a related discussion here on AN/I. – Quadell ^(talk) 18:23, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
    • here is my arguments:

1. (firstly cezayer =algiers= algeria), the name was Eyalet(regency of algiers) cezayer, then mamlaket cezayer since 1711 (kingdom of algiers)
2. the nation was ottoman algeria not ottoman empire (because it was eyalet(regency like walachia and crimea) not viyalet(provence like egypte and syria)
3. the start year is 1515 not 1517
4. p1: were the ziyyanid dynasty in the west and the center of algeria , and the hafcid dynasty in extreme east
5. the flag: i gave two reliable sources
6. the french colonzation began in 1830 not 1831
7. not possesion it was protectorate (the algerian people who asked help from the ottoman empire)