User talk:Vejvančický

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Apology

I'm afraid I made quite unjustified statements about you at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Caputo. I had made a rather careless mistake, and I have posted an apology there, which I trust you will read, but may I offer my sincere apology to you here too? JamesBWatson (talk) 19:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

re: Eshays United

Hi, I noticed you deleted the article Eshays United. This was an article regarding a particular subculture in Australian cities such as Melbourne and Sydney, as well as abroad. I'd like to see this article reinstated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nineteentwothousand (talk • contribs) 10:13, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Do you have any reliable evidence for your claims? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:16, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

There's Urban Dictionary's page on the term 'eshay' as well as a forum thread on the topic. There's many more references to the term 'eshay' on the Internet. The term is commonly used by youths in urban areas in Australia. Nineteentwothousand (talk) 10:24, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a dictionary. It doesn't cover all children/teen slang words in the world. The entry in the Urban Dictionary doesn't mean that this project should cover it as well. Moreover, the phrase 'Eshays United' has nothing to do with the railway stations mentioned in your article. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:40, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Just to poke my oar in - Eshays/Eshays Adlay isn't just slang, it's social phenomenology. The UK equivalent Chav has article status. Opbeith (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, thanks. So, it is the No. 7 in the Urban Dictionary. The explanation by User:Nineteentwothousand was not entirely clear to me (maybe because I didn't notice the mention at the forum inthemix.com). I searched for various meanings of this word, but I found only an article that calls those people "Lads" (User:Nineteentwothousand referred to Lad culture, but it is a different subculture). According to the article by The Daily Telegraph, the term "eshay" is a part of their slang and means f*ck yeah :) It looks that they have a rich and very peculiar vocabulary. Anyway, the article Eshays United was basically a list of railway stations in Australian cities (maybe the favourite places of meetings of local youth gangs(?)) plus a link to the English Lad culture. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:42, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

This - http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101002042735AAglTsN - isn't a bad explanation of the association with stations, though you might not think the opinion being expressed is entirely objective! Opbeith (talk) 18:32, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the comments are quite enlightening. I have an irresistible urge to laugh when reading about those teenage "wannabe gangsta types", but then I remember myself when I was a teenager: dressed like an idiot, my own cool slang and my head full of radical and crazy ideas (I have to admit that the last part is not entirely cured even today, when I have the audacity to consider myself a "grown-up"). There were no guns or drugs (not counting wine and beer), so I guess my generation had a better luck ... I wonder if they can take something valuable from their rebellion. I think it is possible, but it depends on the individual. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

No pig slaughters in Czech Railways ticket halls, I hope. What I envy is the Eshays' ability to speak pig-latin. My brain was never alert enough to cope with that even when it was younger and less sclerotic. (I've just thought that somewhere on Wikipedia an interminable argument is probably going on about whether you should capitalise the P or the L or either or both, and if there should be a hyphen - perhaps it's a lot healthier for young people to be hanging around stations in polos and pork-pie hats).Opbeith (talk) 07:19, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Prickly problem

I was worried at first - I thought this might have something to do with the old country practice of enclosing a rolled-up hedgehog in mud and baking it in the embers of a bonfire, but fortunately not.

What?? Baked hedgehog?? I hope this delicacy was served without spines, as otherwise the length of a lunch could compete with fried fishes.

How's this:

[?leave out "The"] [OK.] Hedgehog in the Cage (in Czech: Ježek v kleci) is a mechanical puzzle popular in the Czech Republic which features prominently in the "Dobrodružství v temných uličkách" (Adventures in Dark Alleys) trilogy of adventure stories by Jaroslav Foglar. The puzzle consists of a small sphere with protruding spikes of various lengths contained within a cylinder perforated with holes of different sizes. The challenge posed by the puzzle is how to release the sphere (the hedgehog) from the cylinder (the cage).

Contents

• 1 History

o 1.1 Mystery of the Conundrum

• 2 Notes
• 3 References
• 4 External links

History The first known model of the puzzle, patented by Clarence A. Worrall.

Although known mainly through the children's stories written by the Czech Jaroslav Foglar in the 1940s, Hedgehog in the Cage has its origins in the United States. The first known model of the puzzle was patented by the American inventor Clarence A. Worrall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on 7 April, 1896.[1][2] It has been suggested that Worrall's invention was inspired by a Japanese puzzle called the Snake and Star, which appeared in the catalogue of the games manufacturer Selchow & Righter on 25 May, 1895.[1] The principle of both inventions is similar: solving the puzzle involves finding the correct position and angle that allows the object ("the hedgehog" or "the star") to be removed from its entrapment in the cage or the snake.

The Hedgehog puzzle seems to have arrived in Czechoslovakia around 1935. It was produced at a toy factory in Roudnice nad Labem.[3] It was not until 1940 that it achieved its remarkable level of popularity, when Jaroslav Foglar published "Záhada hlavolamu" (Mystery of the Conundrum), the first part of his sequence of stories about the Rychlé šípy (Rapid Arrows[4]) boys' club.[note 1]

Mystery of the Conundrum

The masked "High Vont", holding the Hedgehog in the Cage in his left hand. A screenshot from the Czech TV series Záhada hlavolamu (1969). [Does Vont actually mean anything, apart from the name of the members of the organisation?] [No, it is a made up word and it has no meaning in Czech, as far as I know.]

The Hedgehog in the Cage plays a key role in the story and its sequels in the trilogy, "Stínadla se bouří" (The Shades are Revolting) and "Tajemství velkého Vonta" (Secret of the High Vont). The novel tells the story of a young apprentice locksmith Jan Tleskač, who invents a flying bicycle. Tleskač also owns a copy of the puzzle, which he refers to as the "Hedgehog in the Cage". He succeeds in removing the hedgehog from its cage, splits the sphere in two parts and hides the plans of his invention inside it before reuniting the two hemispheres and replacing the Hedgehog inside its Cage. Shortly after, Tleskač meets his death in mysterious circumstances (falling from a church tower).

Later the Rychlé šípy boys appear on the scene. They manage to penetrate a secret youth organization called the Vontové (Vonts), living in the neighbourhood of Stínadla (The Shades), the same area where Tleskač used to live. Following Tleskač's death, his Hedgehog had become the organization's symbol of leadership. The Rychlé šípy find Tleskač's diary and discover the secret of what is hidden inside the puzzle.

They succeed in befriending Ota Losna, a candidate for leadership of Vonts and the title of "High Vont" ["Supreme Vont"?] [Yes, the leader of Vonts. I'll fix it.]. Losna promises that if he wins the election, he will let the Rychlé šípy borrow the Hedgehog. He does win, but the Hedgehog falls into the hands of the father of Mažňák, Losna's opponent in the election. Mažňák Sr., Tleskač's teacher in the locksmith's workshop, turns out also to have been his murderer, [The fact that he is a murderer is not entirely clear, as far as I can remember. It is just a "dark suspicion" that is never entirely explained in the book.] driven by the desire to gain possession of Tleskač's invention. During the dramatic climax of the story, Mažňák Sr. accidentally falls into a drain and loses the Hedgehog. Shortly after that he dies of intoxication. [alcohol? - or do you mean he is poisoned by the sewer contents?] [Yes, he dies of poisoning by the sewer contents.] The Hedgehog in the Cage, along with the secret of the invention of the flying bicycle, is lost underground in the drain.[5]

From the 1940s onwards, the puzzle was manufactured in Czechoslovakia in a variety of forms and sizes. It became particularly popular in 1969 when Czechoslovak Television broadcast a TV series based on the novel.[6]

The Removing the Hedgehog from the Cage World Championship has been held annually in the Czech Republic since 2000.[7]

In 2010, an exhibition was held in the Galerie jedné věci gallery in Prague to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the novel's publication. 70 variants of the puzzle were displayed in the exhibition. Among them was a golden Hedgehog in the Cage and Tleskač's bicycle.[8][9][10][11] Opbeith (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help, Owen. The text has a better flow. I like particularly your polishing of the "plot" section. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm not going to say anything more on the subject of physical relations with hedgehogs in the hope of avoiding encouraging unnecessary carnivory.

Further thoughts:

(1) "infiltrate the Vontové (Vonts), a secret society set up by another group of boys from Stínadla (The Shades), the neighbourhood where Tleskač used to live. (nb you don't say anything about who the Rychlé šípy boys are and why they might be involved with the Vontové - are they just two gangs of boys - gangs in the non-organised violence sense, something like William Brown and the Outlaws or Emil and the Detectives?)"

There's an article about the club, see Rychlé šípy. It is not perfect, but the information is quite correct. They can hardly be called a "gang" and they weren't involved in "non-organised violence". They were exactly the opposite, Foglar created them as a model of good manners for young boys. (Mirek Dušín, their leader, can run like a cheetah and he had never said a single profane word, can you imagine that?) They fought for justice and good so vehemently that they even became a subject of ridiculing and ironic imitations (perfection and excessive desire to do good deeds may border with stupidity (An important note: I admire everyone who tries to do good things!), and they are sometimes considered a symbol of such an "artificial perfection"). There's a comics called Rychlé pípy (which means Rapid Taps), the word pípy (taps) refers to beer taps), see [1]. The imitated Rychlé šípy are depicted as a bunch of lazy drunks. However, I can not deny that the real Rychlé šípy have positively influenced many generations of young Czech boys.

Yes, I think it is better to call Vonts a "secret society", as it was not an organisation in the right sense of the word. It was a big group of boys connected mainly by their place of residence, the neighbourhood of Stínadla. The main sign of their "membership" in the society was a leaf of Ginkgo biloba and the Hedgehod was very important in their hierarchy. I would compare it to the adminship here on Wikipedia :))

Sorry, "non-organised violence gans" - I meant "a gang" in the simple sense of an informal group, and by "non-organisd violnce" I didn't mean "disorganised violence" I was aasking if they were "the sort of gang that you wouldn't associate with involvement in violence". Similarly with "secret society" - in the context of innocent activities of a group of juveniles, a secret society is just a sort of pseudo-serious exclusive group - not to be confused with an organisation like the Black Hand and the like. If there's nothing deceitful about the two groups joining up, then "penetrate" and "infiltrate" would be inappropriate, both suggest a non-transparent intent - you could simply use "join up with" or "join forces with". Unfortunately after recent experiences I won't comment on references to parallels with adminship, too close to hedgehogs.

Actually I think the word "infiltrate" is good, as the group of boys from Stínadla was mysterious, strictly exclusive and suspicious of outsiders. It was not easy for Rychlé šípy to infiltrate their society.

re: adminship - I don't like the "hierarchical significance" that is built around this user right here on Wikipedia. Sometimes I watch the circus associated with the admin status on various noticeboards and I can tell you honestly that our social structure reminds me of a game or a war of rival children's gangs. On the other hand, I work "in the field" (at new pages and in deletion areas) and the tool is extremely useful technically (you can check the contents of deleted pages, restore articles etc). It is the most important thing to me. All I want is to edit in a competent way and help to keep this project strong and trustworthy. I don't need to be a model for others or a super admin guru.

I tried to avoid details in my description. Should I add a sentence or two about Rychlé šípy to make the context more clear?

I think you need to say a very brief something about them just to make the general picture clearer.

I've added following: Rychlé šípy comics series began to appear in the magazine Mladý hlasatel (Young Harold) in December 1938, and gradually became the most popular series in the history of the Czech comics.[5] However, their adventures involving the Hedgehog in the Cage are written in the standard novel form.

Two different pairs of eyes again. I didn't mean about the comics, I meant about the Rychlé šípy boys themselves.Opbeith (talk) 12:49, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

(2) "They make friends with Ota Losna ("they succeed in befriending" makes it sound like there is a deliberate plan, but you haven't indicated it yet; "become friends" is genuine, "make friends" more neutral), who wants to become Vont leader, with the title of "Supreme Vont". Losna promises that if they help him to win the leadership election (ie explanation why he is prepared to let them have what is presumably the Vonts' most important possession trusted to his care), he will let the Rychlé šípy borrow the Hedgehog."

I think that "become friends" is the correct meaning. Rychlé šípy were honest and straightforward. They knew the instruction of how to remove the hedgehog from the cage. Losna had a good chance to get the Hedgehog in the elections. I'm not sure, but I think they together strived to unravel the mystery.

(3) "Mažňák Sr., Tleskač's teacher in the locksmith's workshop, who may have been responsible for Tleskač's death (this is left unclear)"

Good, thanks.

(4) "In the dramatic climax of the story, Mažňák Sr. accidentally falls into an open drain and loses the Hedgehog. Shortly after he dies, poisoned by effluent he has ingested. (nb in normal UK English intoxication almost always means simply overconsumption of alcohol, not necessarily to the extent of poisoning; it's only in specialist medical English that it's used in the sense of serious "poisoning" involving any toxic substance; effluent includes industrial waste, sewage here would be taken to refer to human waste, so he would have become sick rather than have been poisoned).

Ok, thanks for the explanation. The content of the sewer is not discussed in detail, as far as I know :) He died of poisoning by the water of the sewer, and I think he died to pay for Tleskač's death. It is in my opinion the real reason of his death.

OK, just "poisoned by the effluent", leave out the ingestion, that's maybe too specific anyway.

It is maybe too specific, but it is correct. I'll let it be. Thanks.

(5) The Hedgehog in the Cage is lost somewhere beneath the ground in the drainpipe, and along with it the secret of Tleskač's flying bicycle. (is it "underground" - ie carried away by the flow of liquid in the unpiped open drain that Mažňák Sr. fell into down into the piped section of the drainage system or was it already a piped drain that M Sr fell into through an open access hatch - or is it simply "submerged"/"immersed, impossible to locate in the murky effluent or the sediment at the bottom of the drain?)

Opbeith (talk) 07:49, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

The hedgehog is buried in the sediments at the bottom of the drain. It will be found in the second part of the trilogy. The story continues, but I like this end (it is the end of the book "Mystery of the Conundrum"). It is not my laziness to write more about the story, I just don't think that all mysteries must be revealed :)

simply "is lost in the drainpipe" is probably the best way of dealing with it.

Thank you for your interest, it is always fascinating to see how another pair of eyes can bring a different perspective to what we do. I appeciate your help and questions and everything. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

We all create our own mental picture and sometimes we never even dream that someone could be looking at the scene in an entirely different way. And thank you for all these itesm of interest I'd never ever have come across otherwise! Opbeith (talk) 19:08, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, who am I? Is it my own awareness of my personality or the ideas and pictures which exist in the minds of others? Another thing is the mental imprint and memory we leave here forever (? maybe too strong a word). Not long ago, I bought a book reviewed here. The central idea of the book is changing role of remembering/forgetting in our world. It shows how beneficial is forgetting for a human being. The forgetting allows us to evaluate situations and decide effectively in the present time, less burdened with the past experiences. The internet (and also Wikipedia) kills this quality no less effectively. Everything I did in past years here on Wikipedia is stored with chilling accuracy in this enormous brain. I can tell you something today and you could say: "Hey, wait, two years ago you claimed something different, here is the diff. So, what do you really think? Are you lying?". It doesn't matter that the situation and circumstances are different and that I completely forgot my two years old thought, my words are stored here as a merciless evidence. Anyone can find them, use them against me, completely ignoring the fact that it can be a long forgotten past. It is quite scary and it surely isn't "normal". But I have to take the risk, as I love working with informations and this kind of "virtual travelling".

Thanks again for your help, you are an exemplary editor. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:34, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

It's a very sticky problem. Context is important to meaning and the internet flattens context. The picture that Google hits put together is like your Hedgehog puzzle after it's been run over by a steamroller. But in the end, the internet's memory will become as vast and disorganised as our own. Have you ever read a story by Borges called Funes el Memorioso - about the paralysing effect of being unable to forget? I have a terrible memory so have had to learn to live with being challeneged about my day to day contradictions. But I know that what I said yesterday was said in the context of yesterday and what I say today is in the context of today. Both are valid within their own reference points, I'm happy to defend that - even if I can't remember or work out why on earth I said something specific! Exemplary getter-outer of tight corners! Opbeith (talk) 12:56, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for tip! I didn't read Funes, the Memorius, but it is mentioned in the book: "To think is to ignore (or forget) differences, to generalize, to abstract. Since his accident, Funes is condemned only to see the trees, and never the forest. In the teeming world of Ireneo Funes there was nothing but particulars." We want to create a perfect external/general memory, a kind of improved hyperthymesia for everyone.

The Internet may be disorganised, but it isn't difficult to find a key, to select and connect informations (in other words: organise and gather the hidden fragments about everything). It is a dangerous part of our virtual world.

They call this project "the sum of all human knowledge" and I must laugh. Wikipedia is slightly better organized and categorized than the rest of Internet, but where is the ability to search context? Where is the ability to compare, to generalize, to abstract? It is in my opinion an inseparable part of real knowledge. We can give to people nothing but particulars. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree. But life is always about shades of grey. We don't win or lose, we gain or lose more or less. We get information, but we get information that may mislead us or may betray us. We live in a complex world but while a complex world poses new threats a simple world isn't necessarily a safe and comfortable world either. It's all about appreciating what's better and working against what's worse.

And talking of simplicity and complexity, I inserted this at the point where it first arose but I think you may have missed it: (preceded by: "I think you need to say a very brief something about them just to make the general picture clearer." / "I've added following: Rychlé šípy comics series began to appear in the magazine Mladý hlasatel (Young Harold) in December 1938, and gradually became the most popular series in the history of the Czech comics.[5] However, their adventures involving the Hedgehog in the Cage are written in the standard novel form.") "Two different pairs of eyes again. I didn't mean about the comics, I meant about the Rychlé šípy boys themselves." - It's who the boys themselves are that could do with clarifying.Opbeith (talk) 07:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I got lost in my contradictory worldviews nad I almost forgot how all this began. I'll try to fix that. Thanks and sorry. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:27, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I tried to explain briefly how they come to know Stínadla and Tleskač's secret:

... Shortly after, Tleskač meets his death in mysterious circumstances (falling from the tower of St Jacob church).

Later the Rychlé šípy boys appear on the scene. Five boys from the club begin to publish the magazine Tam-Tam and in their search for interesting content for the magazine they stray into Stínadla (The Shades), the neighbourhood where Tleskač used to live. They discover an old sexton at St Jacob, who remembers Jan Tleskač and tells them about the Hedgehog. They manage to infiltrate the Vontové (Vonts), a secret society set up by another group of boys from Stínadla. ...

Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:29, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

"... (falling from the tower of St Jacob's church).

Later the boys from the Rychlé šípy club appear on the scene. Five of the boys have decided to publish a magazine, Tam-Tam, and in search of interesting stories to include in it they stray into Stínadla (The Shades), the neighbourhood where Tleskač used to live. They encounter an old sexton at St Jacob's, ... "

Thanks, that's made the narrative quite a bit clearer. I don't think you need include a translation of Stinadla unless there's something significantly sinister about the name. English church names have the name of the saint in the genitive case. Opbeith (talk) 12:19, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Stínadla is a fictional neighbourhood, as far as I know. The FK Teplice stadium is called Na Stínadlech, but there's no association between the places. Stínadla could refer to "The Shades" and the Czech word could remind also beheading, as the verb "stínat" means "to behead" and Stínadla might be "a place of beheading". It is just my speculation, but there's something sinister about the name, since Stínadla was a dark place full of shady corners and streets :) I think we can refer to the place as to "The Shades". Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:52, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Aleksandar Marković

Please, explain the reason for marking article "Aleksandar Markovic" for speedy deletion. I am his sister, and I acted on Aleksandar's wish and my own. Please, tell me which part of the article is violating anyone's rights?

Sincerely,

Sanja Markovic

User: Markovichsanja — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markovichsanja (talk • contribs) 16:06, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello Sanja. The article was copied from his Facebook page. Here on Wikipedia, it is considered a copyright violation, as there is no evidence confirming that you are the holder of the copyright. You can not simply copy and paste someone's copyrighted text without permission. See your user talk page for further explanation.

Btw, I know his name and I know also Brno Philharmonic Orchestra, as I lived in the city for many years and I'm a fan of classical music :) I know well that he is notable enough for this project (actually, I was the editor who added his name to the orchestra's article), however, a possible article should be written in a neutral way (you claim that you are his sister and therefore you can have conflict of interest) and the claims in it must be backed up by reliable sources. I can help you with the article, but I have to quit today. I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sanja, to continue the AfC process you just submit the page again when it's ready. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for you help Vejvančický.

A question: How can I make this article appear in first few links on Google search page under Aleksandar Markovic? I see that the article name is with the Serbian sign ć... I also see that cash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandar_Markovi%C4%87 is missing the C at the end of name. Is this the reason for poor search potential? There is a German article (made without my brothers knowledge or wish; pretty limited in information), that is using Aleksandar Markovic. We would like to edit or remove. Could you help me with this?

You are welcome. I don't think the accent mark above the letter c has something to do with the Google search result, here is the result for Aleksandar Markovic and Aleksandar Marković. Wikipedia isn't listed on the front page of both searches. Aleksandar Markovic redirects to the correct name, so it should not be a problem. The article is quite new and I've noticed that sometimes it takes few days until a new Wikipedia topic appears on the first page of G-search. So it could be the answer to your question, but I'm not sure. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:08, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Btw, the German article says that Markovic was born in Vienna and is Austrian. Some Czech sources call him a Serbian conductor, others claim that he is an Austrian. I found also sources that call him "an Austrian conductor of Serbian origin". Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:18, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know about this. I'm thinking about adding a rubric about his early life. He was born and raised in Belgrade, Serbia, into a musical family. Here he stayed until the age of 16. In 1991., when the war in Yugoslavia started brewing, he left for Madrid, Spain, for six months, after which he lived in USA until 1996. He studied piano in Levine School of Music in Washington D.C. and in Miami, Florida. He was also given a scholarship for Eastern Music Festival in Greensboro, North Carolina, where he completed a master-class as a pianist. In 1996., when we came back to Belgrade together, he applied at the Academy of Music in Belgrade and in Vienna. He now has a Austrian citizenship.

I will correct the German article. Thank you again! Markovichsanja (talk) 13:31, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

OK. Please, don't forget to cite your sources, any information in our article must be verifiable by reliable sources. The fact that you know is not enough for Wikipedia. Thanks for your understanding, and good luck :) --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:55, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Will do. Thank you! Markovichsanja (talk) 15:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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monobook.js

Hi, why did you delete my monobook.js page just now?? --Crusio (talk) 06:30, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Ooops, I deleted the talk page together with User talk:Crusio/monobook.js (it was created by Machellguo (talk · contribs) at 06:23, 13 October 2011 with the content: 'test'). Honestly, I don't know how it happened. I'm sure that I checked the history (I do it always). Anyway, I restored your user page. My sincere apologies, Crusio. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

• No problem, thanks for restoring. Strange that I missed that test edit myself. --Crusio (talk) 06:46, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

• I think I accidentally clicked 'delete' 'user page' instead of 'talk page'. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 07:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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You should not say sorry for mistakes like this. cheers :) aηsuмaη ^༽Ϟ 09:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:Khaiminh

Thank you for deleting, but plz keep Khaiminh because it's the firtst name of this school. AlleinStein (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

SUSONENCE

Dear Sir Vejvancicky,

You have deleted our SUSONENCE article for copyright infrigement, when actually our research project SUSONENCE has been summarized by his coordinator (the said text) who sent it to all partners: one of them is EIPC who has published it in PCB007, and I have proposed to publish it in wikipedia for the same reasons of dissemination and information; but it is our article !! thanks to revise your position accordingly and please reinstall our Susonence page ! Thanks in advance

Pascal NEGRE SUSONENCE partner

As I do not know how to find your answer, please if possible email it to me at pascal@negre.be thanks 90.80.83.60 (talk) 16:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)