Talk:Caprica

Brian Markinson

Brian Markinson is also billed as a regular after the pilot, even if he doesn't appear much and it hasn't been discussed as much as Sam (because of how minor Durham is). --71.150.248.191 (talk) 17:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Main cast?

I'm surprised to see that Zoe is not listed as a member of the main cast, as she is the crux that the show centers around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.191.44.193 (talk) 00:42, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Criticism NPOV - Mike Hale

New York Times' Mike Hale describes Caprica as "a talky futuristic soap opera" that "[d]espite swooning reviews and obsessive fans" remains an utterly "ordinary show." Amongst other instances of logical inconsistencies and poor writing, Hale observes that "in a world in which we have perfected space travel and settled on other planets, big swaths of our new home look like present-day Vancouver." The show boils down to "hazy philosophizing" reminiscent of an undergraduate philosophy paper and "hasn’t yet developed enough humor or authentic domestic drama" to garner the attention of intelligent television viewers.

Having read that review, most claims are just straight-up wrong:

• Hale doesn't describe Caprica as a talky futuristic soap opera, he states that it presents the potentiality of becoming a talky futuristic soap opera.
• Hale refers to Caprica being a more ordinary show as compared to Battlestar Galactica due to the less fantastical setting (also the word utterly is misplaced and possibly NPOV).
• There is no mention of poor writing and logical inconsistencies (apart from the criticism of the strangeness of housing looking similar to Vancouver homes). As a matter of fact, Hale seems to commend Caprica for its well-rounded nature:

"The moral turpitude is represented by a welter of references to current times: absorption in virtual realities (i.e., the Internet), an overemphasis on sports, sensationalist television pundits. Racism and the struggles of immigrants are evoked in the lesser status of the Taurons (depicted using Italian and Eastern European organized-crime clichés). A memorial service for victims of the bombing looks just like the 9/11 memorials at ground zero. All this high-minded stage setting could produce an intriguing drama of ideas or a talky futuristic soap opera. The goal, presumably, is to achieve both"

• The article mentions nothing of undergraduate philosophy papers. This is a pretty bad hyperbole.
• The article mentions nothing of the intelligence of the show's viewers. It's unencyclopedic to call people that enjoy watching Caprica unintelligent (without a source, at the very least).

Someone fix it please.72.211.192.245 (talk) 03:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. I reworked it with quotes from the review and removed the flagrant violations of NPOV. DarthTaper (talk) 01:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Cancelled vs. On Hiatus

I don't want to get in some big edit war about this. It seems obvious to me that the status of the show is "Cancelled", notwithstanding the fact that some remaining episodes may be aired in the future. "On hiatus" is misleading, because it implies the show may resume production when SyFy has said explicitly that it won't. Clconway (talk) 16:43, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

"On hiatus" does not imply anything regarding production of the show. There are still five episodes left to broadcast, and they have been pushed back until 2011. So, while production has ben cancelled, broadcasting is on hiatus. — Edokter • Talk • 17:23, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I looked and I didn't find any guidance about what Wikipedia:WikiProject Television considers "cancelled" vs. "on hiatus". I would not that the final five episodes will be available on DVD December 21, 2010, so that fact that SyFy might broadcast them in 2011 is barely even relevant. Clconway (talk) 20:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe "cancelled" would be more appropriate. Broadcasting schedules are many and varied, the production is what is important here. I'm sure the network reserves the right to change their mind re: cancellation, but for now we should take their word for it. The Interior(Talk) 20:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

The show is canceled but the current status is on hiatus, they have confirmed that 5 episodes will be aired, just like we don't add a premier date in the infobox until the premiere happened, or don't put the finale date but "present" until that date. It should say what the show is currently on, which is a hiatus, it should say canceled after the five episodes have broadcasted. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 20:53, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, per past custom, it should have the end date as Nov 30, 2010 as that is when the final episode first aired. I was just about to change it when I saw this discussion. --Ckatz^chat_spy 07:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

The "missing five" episodes are supposedly being broadcast in Canada (only) on the SPACE(?) channel; I can't confirm that. I help administer the Caprica wiki on Wikia, and a viewer requested that new episode pages be added on that wiki. Nothing has happened yet because, I believe, of a lack of interest by anyone in becoming an editor at the wiki.--Gaarmyvet (talk) 02:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

The "missing five" episodes are currently scheduled to air on Jan 4, 2011 on SyFy.--Gaarmyvet (talk) 03:09, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

58 Years Prior?!

"...taking place about 58 years prior to the events of Battlestar Galactica."

How is this possible when Doc(tor) Cottle and Bill Adama are IN the show? This would make Bill Adama and Doc Cottle approximately over 60 and over 90 respectively during BSG! (SPOILER Both are in show 1x18 from memory.END SPOILER) - Sam Timmins (talk) 17:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Appeared as a young child I presume? I dunno how old Adama was in BSG but Olmos, who plays him, is over 60 currently, so I don't see what the problem is there. As for Cottle - pass. I have not actually watched the series beyond the pilot. Rehevkor ✉ 20:14, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

The show begins with a title card explicitly saying it takes place 58 years "before the fall". Any continuity problems that introduces are the show's problem, not Wikipedia's. ;-) SPOILER As for William Adama, see List_of_Caprica_characters#William_Adama. The William Adama of BSG is portrayed as having been born after the events of Caprica, meaning he would be in his late 50s at the beginning of that series.END SPOILER I would assume the Dr. Cottle who is referred to in Caprica is the father or some other relation of BSG's Doc Cottle. -Clconway (talk) 21:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

In the episode "Apotheosis" it is revealed that William Adama was fataly wounded and died. His father Joseph then adopts a small child and names the boy Bill, who looks to be the age of 4 or 5. (Regushee (talk) 04:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC))

Flag

The flag of Caprica bears a close resemblance to the flag of Thailand in color and layout.

Flag of Thailand#Other mentions this flag, but I'll leave it to others to decide if Caprica should return the compliment. --Pawyilee (talk) 03:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't properly belong in either article, since the source doesn't mention the resemblence; your comparison is original research. Even if the source did explicitly compare Caprica's flag to Thailand's, it would make more sense to mention it here than in Flag of Thailand: without a statement from the series creators, we can only assume the resemblence is coincidental. 74.74.150.139 (talk) 19:23, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Removed per WP:OR, I doubt that source can be considered reliable. Rehevkor ✉ 19:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

OK by me as it wasn't MY original research and I, two, assume original research. --Pawyilee (talk)

It's gone and all is well, cheers for pointing it out, Pawyilee. Rehevkor ✉ 12:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

what?

I have to say my favorite part is where this show contradicted the other. One says cylons are thousands of years old. This show says that "we" created them 60 years ago.