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This page has the Hospitallers and the Knights of Malta listed separately, with different dates of founding... but the Knights of Malta aka Sovereign Military Order of Malta _are_ the Knights Hospitaller... they are the modern version of them. Why list them separately? Especially with different dates of founding? [[User:Leecharleswalker|Leecharleswalker]] ([[User talk:Leecharleswalker|talk]]) 20:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC) |
This page has the Hospitallers and the Knights of Malta listed separately, with different dates of founding... but the Knights of Malta aka Sovereign Military Order of Malta _are_ the Knights Hospitaller... they are the modern version of them. Why list them separately? Especially with different dates of founding? [[User:Leecharleswalker|Leecharleswalker]] ([[User talk:Leecharleswalker|talk]]) 20:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== "Orders of Chivalry" and "Orders of chivalry" == |
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It's strange and misleading that "Orders of Chivalry" redirect to [[Military order]] and "Orders of chivalry" redirects to Chivalric order. --[[Special:Contributions/79.20.253.233|79.20.253.233]] ([[User talk:79.20.253.233|talk]]) 22:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Added Knight's Templar flag. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 00:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
This article claims there were military orders within Eastern Orthodoxy, but never lists any. Am I missing something? Themill can't be bothered to sign in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.120.38 (talk) 03:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Removed any references to Ortodoxy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.55.6.82 (talk) 17:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Simply, somebody anonymous greatly changed article, without previous talking about it. Please use talk page before great changes. Yopie 02:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Military Order of the Crusaders of the Red Star
or better name Knights of the Cross with the Red Star because this order is Czech, so official name is Czech Křižovnický řád rytířů s červenou hvězdou and there is not anything about "crusaders" or "military" (in fact, the Orders wasnt military). In Ackermann are names "Orden vom Kreuz mit dem rothern Stern" , in official pages [1] are many names in Latin as Canonici Regulares Sanctissimae Crucis a stella rubea, Crucigeri cum rubea stella, Crucigeri stellati, Stelliferi, Křížovníci s červenou hvězdou, Křížovníci. On other page of one church attached to the Order, himself is called Knights of the Cross with the Red Star (see [2])So, other test "Knights of the Cross.." 729 ghits, "Military orders.." 0 ghits. Be honest, I found one citation of this name in old Catholic Encyclopedia here, but this entry is full of incorrect fact. The Order wasn't in the Holy Land and was founded in Bohemia, so connotation to Crusaders is simply false. This Order is and was "military" only in pure ceremonial way, and it is mainly hospitaller order. --Yopie 02:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Many "Crusaders" never fought in the Holy Land. Many Crusades weren't directed at the Holy Land. I have provided a citation, but the Latin provided at the article is already evidence enough. Srnec (talk) 04:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Story about "Betlemites" as predecessors of Knights of the Cross is common error (as Order of Tutsin, or one Order of the Christ). Knights of the Cross were founded by pope Gregory IX in 1237 (bull Omnipotens Deus) and by princess St. Agnes. You cited Walsh, but he wrote about the Order only few lines and without sources/references. My opinion is based on Milan Buben, Encyklopedie řádů a kongregací(annotation) and Ivan Koláčný "Řády a vyznamenání" (with English resume, I can scan it and send to you by email). I will search for more sources on-line and in English.--Yopie 10:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hospitallers / Knights Malta
This page has the Hospitallers and the Knights of Malta listed separately, with different dates of founding... but the Knights of Malta aka Sovereign Military Order of Malta _are_ the Knights Hospitaller... they are the modern version of them. Why list them separately? Especially with different dates of founding? Leecharleswalker (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
"Orders of Chivalry" and "Orders of chivalry"
It's strange and misleading that "Orders of Chivalry" redirect to Military order and "Orders of chivalry" redirects to Chivalric order. --79.20.253.233 (talk) 22:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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