User talk:JohnCD

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My Page ' GK Sanghar' has been re-edited with changes that you Advised!

Hi John,

I have re-edited the page I created for GK Sanghar. I have looked at your comments and realized that there may have been some parts to the contents that showcased subjectivity. So I have removed all subjective information and kept a more neutral approach. The article is properly referenced as the person is my client and I am her Manager. She is a local news personality and whatever information that is distributed is released by her Manager directly into the public domain for accessibility to her well-wishers.

However, I don't understand why the article name has been changed from GK Sanghar to G.K. Sanghar. Initially, there was a older wikipage once created. However, the information on that site lacked proper references and inadequate information. The names of article page should be restored to GK Sanghar.

This is the actual biography of a real person. References have been added and citations are non-subjective. The published work of the person has been referenced to avoid plagiarism by other parties only.

I hope you receive this message and pass the approval of this authenticated page created not for the purposes of publicity or commercial interests, but to allow for an avenue of credibility of the person and her work, and to share objective details of the person with her well-wishers.

Please allow the progression of the page.

Thank You, Preet Sanghar Preet Sanghar (talk) 16:58, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Very much appreciated.

See this and this. --Shirt58 (talk) 12:51, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem - it's easy to get tangled up in AfD noms. JohnCD (talk) 18:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

why

why u delete my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0ere (talk • contribs) 21:12, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a project to build an encyclopedia, not a site like Myspace or Facebook for people to write about themselves. Read the message I left on your talkpage, the last three lines. JohnCD (talk) 21:18, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Judging from the top you can see my talk page? PhysicsDude21 (talk) 23:12, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Azim Wardak

Hi John. I see that you've undeleted Azim Wardak but I really why this shouldn't still be considered as a BLPPROD candidate. When I placed the tag a couple of weeks ago, I tried to find decent online sources and couldn't find significant coverage. Sure, I was able to confirm indirectly that he was a high-ranking employee of Afghanistan's ministry of commerce but from vague primary sources. Consider the fact that currently, the sentence

He was able to hold office throughout this period thanks to his professional skills and the good relations that he built with his international collaborators

is supported by a reference that simply states that he was one of dozens in attendance to the Second Annual U.S. Afghanistan Trade And Investment Council Meeting. And the sentence:

He has been a great promoter of the WTO in Afghanistan in order to open the Afghan market for its economical and social growth.

is supported by a reference that only lists him as a participant of the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development. In other words, there isn't a single sentence in that article that is supported by a reliable source. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 22:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

The first reference confirms that he was President of International Trade at the Ministry of Commerce and Industries, and I think that is enough to get past the fairly low threshold of BLPprod, which requires only "the presence of at least one reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the biography." No prejudice to PROD or AfD if you think he is not notable, or trimming the article back to remove uncited claims. JohnCD (talk) 22:10, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 22:24, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative

Hi JohnCD,

You are receiving this message either because you expressed an opinion about the proposed SOPA blackout before full blackout and soft blackout were adequately differentiated, or because you expressed general support without specifying a preference. Please ensure that your voice is heard by clarifying your position accordingly.

Thank you.

Message delivered as per request on ANI. -- The Helpful Bot 16:34, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Responded there. JohnCD (talk) 20:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Genre of the Lamentations

I agree that this page was unneeded, but I was surprised to find it deleted entirely, since I don't remember the entire content to be from the site listed. But I havn't yet tracked down the discussion (is my eye missing something at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Archive_debates/2011_February_index?). Would you consider restoring at least the talk page with the merger discussion, and do something to make the links here into redirects? Sparafucil (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

There wasn't a discussion - it was speedy-deleted as a copyright violation, a straight copy of http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/misc/lamentations.htm. I looked back through the history to see whether there was a non-infringing version, but the same text was there from the first entry in Nov 2006 - all the subsequent changes were mere tweaks like categories and maintenance tags.

Evidence that it was copied from medieval.org, rather than their copying it from us, is that their article has the author's name, François Velde, at the bottom, but in our version this name got added to the list of German composers, after Krenek.

The talk page only contained a WikiProject Catholicism template, and a note pointing out that the article was a copyvio.

I think the redlinks should stay, to encourage someone (you?) to write a non-copyvio article. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

...or should any useful material from this be added to Lamentations of Jeremiah the Prophet, citing the medieval.org article as the source, and the redlinks be altered to point to that? JohnCD (talk) 22:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the refresher; I must have misremembered the talk page. Lamentations of Jeremiah the Prophet was originaly so titled to refer specifically to English settings, but is the best target for Tenebrae music. Sparafucil (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

PennSthersheypaz

Good Morning,

Back in June we created a page for Harold L. Paz, which was deleted (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harold_L._Paz&action=edit&redlink=1) of copyright infringement http://pennstatehershey.org/web/guest/home/aboutus/leadership/paz. Dr. Paz, is our Dean of Penn State College of Medicine in Hershey. He has revised his bio and I was wondering if I can create a page without it being deleted again.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pennsthersheypaz (talk • contribs) 12:55, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

There are several issues here:

• If the material has already been published, on the University website or elsewhere, Wikipedia cannot accept it without a formal copyright release. Assertion of authorship or of permission to reproduce is not enough; for one thing, we have no way to be certain that someone on the end of a wire is who he says, and for another release to Wikipedia involves much more than permission to reproduce, Wikipedia's CC_BY_SA license allows anyone to copy, modify, and use for any purpose including commercial, and it is essential that the copyright holder understands and agrees to that. The method of making a copyright release is described at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
• It is not often worth making a copyright release, because material written for another purpose is seldom suitable - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a notice-board. (You may find User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard helpful).
• You say that Dr Paz "has revised his bio", but Wikipedia articles written by their subjects are strongly discouraged, for reasons explained at Wikipedia:Autobiography
• Another reason why a simple copy of a University announcement or website would not be sufficient is the need to demonstrate Wikipedia:Notability, a requirement to have a Wikipedia article, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by citing references that show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."

Dr Paz as the subject, and you if you are associated with him, have from Wikipedia's point of view a WP:Conflict of interest. That need not prevent you from editing, but you need to be careful, and follow the guideline WP:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest. I sggest that you read WP:Your first article and then make a draft in your "user space" - see Help:Userspace draft for how to do that. If you do that, the page that is created will have a link to more advice, and a button with which to submit it when it is ready, when independent users will review it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Deleted My Page

Hello

Created a page for the Onondaga Ogres football program. Page was deleted for notability. This club was the first football program for the students of Onondaga Community College in the fifty year history of the school. We were covered in the Syracuse Post Standard and National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA) following a game against Alfred State College. In the 2012 season we will be an official NJCAA Club program and be acting as its varsity representative. I began the entry in wikipedia as a starting point that was to be expanded on in the coming days. If you could reinstate the page it would be helpful and I will do my best to update it as quickly as possible with relevant content.

http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2011/10/onondaga_community_college_stu.html http://njcaa.org/newsArticle.cfm?articleId=15561 http://yankeecollegiatefootballconference.webs.com/apps/links/ http://www.intercollegiateclubfootball.com/nationalrankings.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djdemperio (talk • contribs) 21:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Article "userfied" to User:Djdemperio/Onondaga Ogres Football where you can work on it. Advice on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 14:41, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Deleted album article

Who are you to unilaterally delete someone else's article? There are articles about completely unreleased albums, but one that was released and sold over 30,000 copies has no significance? No doubt this is because it was a Christian album. What are your specific objections? The Moody Blue (Talk) 01:43, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

OK, I just read on your page how this happened-sorry. I have had trolls vandalize edits and such before that had a very anti-Christian bias. This article is notable because the musician who recorded it is. David Persons was one of the Austin "Wrecking Crew" in the late 70's and early 80's. He played a lot of session work, as well as toured with Neil Diamond, Jimmy Buffett and numerous others. This is his only solo album until later this year. He is notable and was a well known studio musician. Simply because no one has written a wiki article about him does not mean he isn't notable. I was looking for a link to his album and realized there wasn't an article for it, so I added one. It should stand.

Once again, sorry about the hissy fit earlier, I didn't realize you were responding to a bot. The Moody Blue (Talk) 01:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I need to correct my earlier message - I left out a 0. It should have read 300,000 copies. Sorry. The Moody Blue (Talk) 02:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I presume this is about This Is A Recording (David Persons Album). The notability standard for albums is at WP:NALBUMS: "An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence." NALBUMS goes on to say that the artist does not need to be notable if the album meets the general notability guideline, but that is an unusual situation, so that WP:CSD#A9 permits speedy deletion of an album article if the artist has no article and there is no indication of importance or significance. In this case the only source cited was a download link - no evidence of significant independent coverage or recognition.

The fact that it is a Christian album was not apparent from the article, but in any case has absolutely nothing to do with anything - it is not a reason to delete, nor is it a reason to keep.

If you think that Persons is notable to the standard of WP:MUSICBIO, I suggest you start by writing an article about him, but it needs reliable sources - "Persons has been rumored to be working on a new album" isn't for Wikipedia. In particular, notability is not a matter of saying so, but of showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. JohnCD (talk) 13:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

So I need to write an article about Persons as well. Well, since it hasn't been done (which mystifies me a bit) give me a week or so to write one before you delete the album article. I see your point with the absence of an artist article, so I will try to get that corrected. Persons is also listed on IMDB from a childhood network television appearance ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0282266/ ). I will get the article together. Some of the interviews and such I may use are not found on the web, as they were done in the 1980's before the web was really around, but I will document the print sources. Please give me a fortnight before you delete the article and I will get the artist article done to de-orphan this article. Thanks! The Moody Blue (Talk) 19:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC) (PS - I trust you got the follow up messages I sent after I read your page. The first message was before I read it.)

I have userfied the album article for you - moved it into your user space - to User:Themoodyblue/This Is A Recording (David Persons Album). If you post it again now it would just be deleted again. Even after Persons has an article, the album article would need independent evidence of notability, in the form of independent comment about it - failing that, a mention in the artist's article is the way to treat it. (I know there are a lot of tracklist-only album articles lying about, but see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). You may find advice or help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums. Yes, I read the second part of your message, but even after your apology I still thought "No doubt this is because it was a Christian album" needed some response. JohnCD (talk) 15:29, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

User-page restoration

I'd like to have my user-page restored, please. --Britcom 08:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

For context, this is in reference to this MFD. Beeblebrox (talk) 09:39, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

No. Per WP:UP#COPIES:

"Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host... deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content. Private copies of pages that are being used solely for long-term archival purposes may be subject to deletion."

This was a copy, untouched for five years, of an article deleted (converted to a redirect) after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-homosexualism. If you disagree with the result of this MfD, you will have to go to WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 13:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I'll take that as a "No". You were involved with the discussion in my absence, my question to you John, is; what is your opinion of the way in which this was handled? --Britcom 18:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't see any problem with it. The page was clearly in breach of WP:UP#Copies, so the MfD nomination was reasonable; you were notified on your talk page, although at that point you had not edited for over a year; the MfD ran for the statutory seven days and could not, IMO, have been closed any other way; you have DRV available if you want to appeal. I will email the text to you if you like, but it is still available to you here under the redirect in the history, if you want to copy it for your own purposes. JohnCD (talk) 18:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you John for the link to the text of the page. However, I think you misunderstood my question. I was asking your opinion of the way in which Beeblebrox handled the nomination, specifically relating to the fact the he suddenly, and without consulting with me, nominated one of my user pages for deletion, and did so during the Christmas Holiday season which he likely should have known would make the nomination go unnoticed until after the deletion was effected, thereby preventing me from participating in the discussion on the nomination for deletion page. I believe the policy says that deletions of user-pages should be discussed with the user before making any aggressive moves such as nomination for deletion. I was not even offered the option to delete it myself. To me this deletion feels more like an attack than a house keeping function. It seems to me this whole affair could have been handled in a more civil manner.

Also, if you check the log, you will find it is not true that I haven't edited in over a year. It's been less than five months since my last edit. --Britcom 21:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Apologies, I missed that one July edit. Yes, the policy suggests discussing with the user as a first step, but you had actually announced your departure last November, had few edits after that and none for five months; so in my opinion it was not unreasonable or discourteous to nominate your page with no more than the standard notification. JohnCD (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

And also, how do you feel about the page being nominated during the Holidays? Do you not think that that was discourteous? --Britcom 23:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

No, I don't. It was nominated 30 Dec, so the debate ran to 7 Jan; most people are back at work by then. Wikipedia processes don't need to shut down over holiday periods. I'm really not sure what you want here. You already have access to the text: if you want the deletion formally overturned, go to DRV; if you seriously think Beeblebrox was discourteous, there is WQA; but my advice is that you would not get anywhere with either of those, and should consider dropping the stick. JohnCD (talk) 23:41, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

So, just to clarify that I understand you correctly John; it is your opinion that Beeblebrox could have done nothing different or better to avoid what has now become an escalated situation, and that I should just look the other way and do nothing about it. Is that correct? --Britcom 01:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

You are putting words into my mouth. To be absolutely clear: it would have been possible for him to leave a message on your talk page asking to discuss this or inviting you to delete it yourself. However, in view of your declared departure from the site (User talk:Britcom#Britcom has Quit), and the fact that you had not edited for over five months, I do not think he can reasonably be criticised for not doing that. JohnCD (talk) 12:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I see. Thank you very much John, you have been very helpful and I appreciate your attention and effort in answering my questions. I will now consult with my colleagues on what further steps should be taken. -- BTW, in case you weren't aware, the article in question was originally authored by myself to help people understand that Anti-homosexualism is a form of violent political oppression different from the emotional reactive definition of Homophobia. I was attacked for making the differentiation and my work expunged from wikipedia. A fellow editor saved my work for me and posted it to my user-space, which I appreciated. I kept it there as an historical exhibit to illustrate the political agendas and intolerance at work in wikipedia that I and others have been working to promote awareness about. --Britcom 19:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the page "Navarasa by Lotus"

Hi John,

I am the creator of the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navarasa_by_lotus

You had a concern that this is an unpublished work. Please refer the below mentioned url for the proof that this is indeed a published work.

http://www.flipkart.com/books/9381576847?_l=gWxQa0snNjHUHKJhnj_y0w--&_r=ch34Lkt%20E1a%20yBKh6ivOhQ--&ref=88e467a8-5e64-4ef1-ad69-6d6a917df96a

The ISBN is indeed valid, the book is currently available in India. It would take few more days to be found on Ebay and Amazon as a e-book.

Please let me know if you require or suggest more information on keeping this page alive.

Thanks, rajiv — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjvkmr3 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I have had to delete the article, because the text was almost entirely copied from the flipkart.com page you sent me. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept text copied from elsewhere - see Wikipedia:Copy-paste - unless a formal copyright release has been made. I expect you could do that, but there would be no point, because there is no way your newly-published book can (yet) meet Wikipedia's requirements explained at WP:Notability (books)#Criteria. JohnCD (talk) 16:36, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi John,

My intention was to give you a proof that book is being sold on Amazon like e-commerce site in India, since you had mentioned names like Amazon in your query. I think I atleast deserved few more hours before you had to delete the content, though am not new to Wikipedia this is the first time I am creating a page.

Here are the other ISBN-13 numbers assigned to the book, 9789381576847, 978-9381576847

Please let me know what you suggest next. Because I don't see a difference between the page I created with that of several other wiki pages of many other Indian books like "Five Point someone" "two states" etc.

Rajiv — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.149.155 (talk) 16:40, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi John,

I am the author of this book. The intention of creating this page was not to promote this book!!! Every word found on the ecommerce site which you referred is taken from the back cover blurb of the book for which I have the copyrights, in case you felt I just copied and pasted the verbioge.

Anyway, any further requests from me would look like am desperate for promoting and I am definetly not! I do appreciate your strong watch on the pages being created which I fully respect as I totally depend on Wikipedia for my day to day facts...

But I do not understand how other books still have pages created on Wikipedia.

Rajiv — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjvkmr3 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Please read WP:Notability (books)#Criteria and WP:Conflict of interest. An encyclopedia doesn't announce new things: it waits until other people, independently, have commented on them, so that (a) it's clear they are of general interest and (b) an article can be made by summarising reliable, published sources. For reasons explained at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS we don't usually engage in "that has an article so this should have one" arguments, but Five Point Someone – What not to do at IIT!, for example, was written seven years ago, has been filmed and won awards, and the article lists lots of independent references. I hope your book reaches that stage, and if it does probably someone not connected with it will write an article about it. JohnCD (talk) 17:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Torbjørn Agdestein

Hi there. You correctly deleted the article about Torbjørn Agdestein per this: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Torbjørn_Agdestein. But now he made his debut for Brighton in the football league championship Norwegian source, which makes him notable through WP:NFOOTY. Could you recreate the deleted article (or one of them :p), or should I just make a new one? Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Please add the new reference and update it quick, before it gets tagged G4 again. It was created at least four times; I have restored the whole lot so that we have the history, you can comb back through the earlier versions to see if there is anything useful that the later ones lack. JohnCD (talk) 17:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

For joining WP:UWTEST. Let us know if you have any questions or ideas about tests to run. :) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 19:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

IP Block

Thanks for the quick assist on 207.166.54.87 and block! JACooks (talk) 20:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Euthenology

Hi!

I am Jahmon A. Highbaugh Chief Euthenologist and Founder of Euthenology and the Heart's River Foundation. We service and develop historical and ongoing facts and ideologies of Euthenology "The Father Science" or The Science of Human Living Potential that can be found on facebook or twitter. I own all copyrights of Euthenology and information of its origin as my story tell will tell. I was having trouble with the wikipedia site at first to a friend showed me how properly to use it and then trouble came. If you would take some time to review your site you will see that I have removed all information meaning that if it didnt belong to me I would not be or hold access to codes and other information dealing with Euthenology. If you would be so kind as to reset your computers so that I can restore the site back to normal I will gladly place it correctly there this time. We have a lot of information that needs to be credited towards Euthenology and would like to regain the option of developing a relationship with wikipedian on learning this new science of human living potential. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Euthenology (talk • contribs) 22:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Mr Highbaugh, I have blocked this account, because Wikipedia accounts are for individuals only, who are personally responsible for them, and we do not allow accounts whose names are those of groups or organizations. I see that you have a personal account at {Jahmon Highbaugh (talk), and you should use that one.

One problem with your last submission was that you said it could not be used "without express legal written consent", but that is not compatible with Wikipedia's CC-BY-SA license. However, even if the license were sorted out. I am afraid Wikipedia may not be suitable for what you want to do, because one of its principles is that it publishes WP:No original research. I will give more advice on your talk page at User talk:Jahmon Highbaugh soon. JohnCD (talk) 17:01, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for your quick help, i really appreciated it. 08:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilthanas91 (talk • contribs)

Harry Snodgrass

Hi, you deleted the page Harry Snodgrass under G7 in June 2011. This edit summary on Harry snodgrass claims that a user's account was accessed "without permission". Is it still possible to undelete that article, or would it still qualify under another speedy criteria if you were to restore it? —KuyaBriBri^Talk 15:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

This is a funny one. The article was started in 2006 by Hesnodgrass (talk · contribs) and looked much like this one. Various people tweaked it, added categories etc, but not much else happened until August 2009 when Hesnodgrass returned and added a lot of more promotional-sounding stuff, making it much like the mirror you see here. Finally in June 2011 Hesnodgrass blanked the page, someone else tagged it G7 and I deleted it.

Now a new SPA, Thedoctorbrain (talk · contribs) makes the claim you quoted and inputs this shorter article, which I see someone has moved to the proper capitalisation, and also Hesnodgrass returns and posts it at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Harry Snodgrass.

It would be possible to undelete the long article, but think this shorter one is better. It is not the original author who claims his account was accessed without permission, and if he did we would probably block it as a compromised account. "The doctorbrain" is either the same person or close to him, but the present article is passable, enough to pass A7 and, if given better sources than IMDb, probably shows notability. I am inclined to do nothing. JohnCD (talk) 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I am a fan and have worked with Mr. Snodgrass. I updated sources to help with verification. I hope this passes all of your criteria as I am new to wikipedia and want to get more information out about the hard working people in the film business that don't normally get recognized. I will be adding more but started with Mr. Snodgrass as I remember him having a page before and know he wouldn't mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedoctorbrain (talk • contribs) 17:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

John - thanks for your input. Given your explanation I am OK with you doing nothing. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:07, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I noticed that the article still keeps getting marked for deletion even though you guys seem OK with it. How can we prevent this from happening? I added some more sources but they keep getting removed. Anyway I think it would be a crime to not recognize the contributions this person has made by eliminating the page. Thedoctorbrain (talk) 18:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)