Talk:Washington Crossing the Delaware (1851 paintings)

Censorship

Hi - I'm new to wikipedia and wanted to add this tidbit but I wasn't sure how. Can anybody help me? Update - I just tried to add it myself so if someone could look it over that would be great. Here is my contribution. My 2009 Forgotten English Calendar adds the following to this topic: "At least three times in the last decade, and as recently as 2002, American grade school administrators stepped in to alter textbook reproductions of the iconic painting because Washington's watch fob was painted too close to his crotch for their comfort, possibly resembling male genitalia. In the general's namesake Georgia in 1999, for example, Muscogee County teachers' aides painted out the timepiece by hand on 2,300 copies. And in cobb County, Georgia, the page with the offending reproduction was completely torn out." - Forgotten English by Jeffrey Kacirk (c) 2009. I also found this link on the web from freedomforum.org that confirms this occurrence: Censorship foes: Altering painting of Washington crosses the line Camelotcrusade (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC).

The text in the article should be edited so that it is not an exact quote from Kacirk's copyrighted calendar. (I don't have time right now.) Alfrogbet (talk) 13:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Duplicates

Washington Crossing the Delaware and Washington's crossing of the Delaware cover the same topic and should be merged. Any suggestions on which should be the main? --Yukata Ninja 17:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose. Washington's crossing of the Delaware discusses the historical event that took place in 1776. Washington Crossing the Delaware discusses the famous painting illustrating the event, made in 1851, and which has it's own history as a work of art. These can in no way be considered the same topic. TCC (talk) (contribs) 20:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed --Yukata Ninja 19:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

"Bought by John F. Kennedy"

Before I changed it, the article stated:

After changing ownership several times, it was finally obtained by John F. Kennedy, who donated it to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

This is plainly false, and Wikipedia promulgating this falsehood is partly my fault, since I wrote the first revision of this article and might have anticipated the edit. That revision said:

After changing ownership several times, it was finally obtained by John S. Kennedy, who donated it to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

Mind you, "John S. Kennedy" is not a typo! The painting was donated by this man in 1897[1], but I couldn't find additional information on him and so left it at that.

The right thing to do would probably have been not to mention him at all, or to provide a link like the one I just mentioned. I don't think the rather enigmatic "John S. Kennedy" really needs to be mentioned here, especially since it's likely to inspire future generations of "correctors" who will drag in poor JFK. With that in mind, I've removed the name of the contributor. JRM · Talk 16:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Not original idea for painting.

I heard somwhere that the original idea for this painting was NOT of washington crossing the delaware, but it was changed to that. The only reason washington is standing up is because that was the only place to add him into the painting. Is this true? 68.4.76.39 04:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Not that I ever heard. Various details of the composition militate against such an interpretation. TCC (talk) (contribs) 20:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Assessment comments

These have been moved here from a subpage as part of a cleanup process. See Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages.

I have assessed this article as C-class and identified the following areas for improvement:

• The article needs inline citations
• The article needs references

I rated it as "High" importance because if it was put on the New Jersey quarter, it must be pretty important.

shirulashem (talk) 15:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Composition

Aside from the flag being an anachronism, its colors are interesting and confusing. The red stripes are faded to a pink, as though the flag has spent many years in the sun. Vibrant reds appear elsewhere in the painting, though. The artist made a choice here, possibly symbolic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharleyCross (talk • contribs) 18:15, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Potential resource, Mort Künstler

NYT resource, new Crossing the Delaware ... Crossing the Delaware, More Accurately December 23, 2011, 12:30 PM by Corey Kilgannon

99.181.149.86 (talk) 04:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC)