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:::::I will notify Jamie Kelso by some means and you can discuss it with him. This is not my biography. I am trying to keep Wikipedia from getting sued. I recommend the restoral of the dubious tag. It is not to be frivolously removed over a serious matter like this.
:::::I will notify Jamie Kelso by some means and you can discuss it with him. This is not my biography. I am trying to keep Wikipedia from getting sued. I recommend the restoral of the dubious tag. It is not to be frivolously removed over a serious matter like this.
::::::I'll take this to ANI then if you won't make it clear you don't intend to sue, especially as you say you are taking this to Kelso. We really don't care what Kelso says about his beliefs although we can perhaps use something he says in a reliable source. [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|talk]]) 18:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::I'll take this to ANI then if you won't make it clear you don't intend to sue, especially as you say you are taking this to Kelso. We really don't care what Kelso says about his beliefs although we can perhaps use something he says in a reliable source. [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|talk]]) 18:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::You have just proven your agenda:"We really don't care what Kelso says about his beliefs---". Silly you! This is an encyclopedia, not your personal blog. You should be blocked from editing for this remark.

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Mythical White Supremacism

There is no such thing as a White Supremacist. No organization that I know of wants to rule over other races. They merely want to be rid of them. This is libelous and untrue. The correct term is White Separatist.Trojancowboy (talk) 16:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources use the term. Hopefully you realise that we ignore our own opinions on such things as our article are based on what reliable sources say about a subject. You use the word libelous, so I will need your assurance that you do not intend legal action - see WP:NLT. Dougweller (talk) 17:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have no immediate plans for a lawsuit but there are plenty of people who might, including Jamie Kelso. This is an encyclopedia. Let's have a reliable source that there is such a thing as a White Supremacist organization. This is a simple matter to fix. Change "Supremacist" to "Separatist". Review the policies for biographies of living people.Trojancowboy (talk) 18:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"White Supremacist" is now cited to WP:RELIABLE sources in the article both for the organizations he belongs to and for himself. If you have reliable sources arguing he is not, please produce them. Heiro 18:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am asking that you say you have no plans for a lawsuit or to encourage others to sue. We have plenty of sources saying that various organisations are white supremacist. Dougweller (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will notify Jamie Kelso by some means and you can discuss it with him. This is not my biography. I am trying to keep Wikipedia from getting sued. I recommend the restoral of the dubious tag. It is not to be frivolously removed over a serious matter like this.
I'll take this to ANI then if you won't make it clear you don't intend to sue, especially as you say you are taking this to Kelso. We really don't care what Kelso says about his beliefs although we can perhaps use something he says in a reliable source. Dougweller (talk) 18:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You have just proven your agenda:"We really don't care what Kelso says about his beliefs---". Silly you! This is an encyclopedia, not your personal blog. You should be blocked from editing for this remark.