Talk:Brand New (band)

Beastie Boys?

According to a trivia section on Aglio e Olio (EP) (a beastie boys album) it says this band got their name from a name of the first track on this album. Now I don't think this true, I think it's just pure vandalism, but I want to make sure before removing it, did the Band Get their name from the beastie boys song "Brand New?" KMFDM FAN (talk) 18:24, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Possible, but not confirmed. Delete and we can add it again if sourced. Maxwells.plum (talk) 05:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Crime in Stereo/Alex Dunne interview reference

I'm not sure how to edit the reference list. Can someone fix this? Reference 18 -- Brian Shultz clearly conducted the interview with Alex Dunne, not Rob Ortenzi..not sure where or how that name could have came from. Shultz's name is at the top under the headline and in the paragraph SAYING he talked with Dunne. http://www.altpress.com/features/240.htm

Fixed. Probably someone who didn't know how to use a reference template properly added it, and they only changed the title and url. Thanks. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 04:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Lead sentence genre

In response to Gunmetal Angel's edit summary: The first sentence should use the term alternative rock, since the term encompasses all of the subgenres that the band spans. To just say that they are a rock band is not as specific, and therefore less accurate. Alternative rock includes emo and pop punk and post-punk and whatever else you want to call the band - it isn't meant to be their "only genre". —Akrabbim^talk 15:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Most editors on Wikipedia are rather annoyed by the number of daily edits regarding genre. Some believe that by listing just the genre (rock, jazz, blues) and not the specific style of music (indie rock, chamber jazz, delta blues) it should end any debate. Since rock includes indie and alternative, just listing rock as the genre is correct. I personally feel that most bands can not be lumped into just a single style of music, and articles on musical groups should have a section for the style of music they play. Especially if the lead is intentionally vague. See Metallica#Style and lyrical themes and Radiohead#Style and songwriting. Gunmetal's edit also alters the capitalization of Brand New's website and removes two external links. Should we be discussing these too? Fezmar9 (talk) 17:24, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Except that Brand New can be lumped completely into alternative rock. They cover a range of subgenres, but they are all subsets of alternative rock, which is the intentionally vague term that we should be using. There is nothing that applies to the band that "rock" includes but "alternative rock" doesn't. I agree with your reasoning, but I don't believe that it applies in this case. —Akrabbim^talk 19:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

You mention emo and pop punk, which are stylistically derived from punk, not alternative rock. Fezmar9 (talk)

I have always been under the impression that punk was included under the alternative rock umbrella, but now that you bring it up maybe that is a misconception. Perhaps it is because I wasn't born until after alternative rock has already arisen from it's punk origins (1989), but the way I have always used the term is like the 4th sentence of the alternative rock article (like how iTunes has an "Alternative & Punk" genre, apart from "Rock"): "At times alternative rock has been used as a catch-all phrase for rock music from underground artists in the 1980s, and all music descended from punk rock (including punk itself, New Wave, and post-punk)." Is it encyclopedially (probably not a word) inaccurate to describe alternative rock as encompassing punk and it's derivatives, even though both movements have now been coexisting and co-influencing each other for so long? —Akrabbim^talk 21:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The history of punk rock easily pre-dates the rise of alternative rock. While several punk styles, such as post-punk and post-hardcore, may incorporate alternative influences, I would not by any means say that alt rock encompasses punk. If anything, punk rock encompasses alt rock. From punk rock, "Musicians identifying with or inspired by punk also pursued a broad range of other variations, giving rise to post-punk and the alternative rock movement." Fezmar9 (talk) 23:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

So instead of discussing the use of one word in the lead, who wants to help write a style and influences section? :D kiac. (talk-contrib) 01:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind contributing, though I have never really worked on a style section for a band, only albums. I am currently struggling to write one for Axe to Fall. Should we go album by album? To me, each Brand New album is kind of its own beast. Fezmar9 (talk) 01:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Taken my time to reply here, sorry! I would think that would be the best way to go about it, we could begin by extracting the more specific style discussion in the current sections. I usually then go to each album page and look at the reviews, they're analysing the band's style straight up so that's a good place to start I think. Their noteworthy progression gives us something to base the section off, so I think it shouldn't be too hard. kiac. (talk-contrib) 05:51, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Genre

They simply are not post-hardcore... Please provide an example of their music that could be classified as such. 166.248.98.106 (talk) 15:17, 16 March 2012 (UTC)MH, 03/16/12

Example: learn what post-hardcore is • GunMetal Angel 07:07, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Edits by 108.23.225.253

Regarding genre: Go look up gothic rock. Brand New does not fit in this subgenre. Alternative rock is, in my opinion, a much better descriptor of their style than gothic rock is.

Regarding purevolume: 1) This needs a citation. 2) The noteworthiness of this item is questionable at best. ---

If you feel strongly about these issues, please address them here, as your views seem to have little if any support from other frequent contributors from this article (i.e. it seems to me that you are just changing/adding these two things over and over again and having them continually reverted).

24.126.155.250 (talk) 22:59, 5 June 2012 (UTC) M