Talk:The Game (mind game)

Edit request on 5 February 2012

As mentioned in an earlier version of this article, it mentioned that it took between a few seconds up to 30 minutes before one could lose the game again. The article had some quite concrete links associated with it. Also, I have found some sites to support this as well. Due to this previous version of this article as well as other articles associated with The Game, a large majority of the "players" of The Game follow the "30 minute rule" and choose 30 minutes as it is the maximum because no one wants to lose faster (obviously). I would like to request that this rule is specified.

After you have announced your loss, some variants allow for a grace period, during which you cannot lose the game, which varies in time. After you have announced your loss, some variants allow for a grace period between 3 seconds to 30 minutes, during which you cannot lose the game.

- Supporting links - Previous citation for this article used by Wikipedia: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Entertainment/20080117/thegame_youlose_080117/ "You then have three seconds to forget the game and then you can be reminded and lose again, explains Allison Thomas, a Grade 12 student in Cole Harbour, N.S., in an e-mail. Other people allow up to half an hour to forget about the game."

http://www.losethegame.net/faq -> What are the official rules of the game? "The three rules stated on LoseTheGame.com represent the core rules that are most commonly played. The most common additional rule played by many people worldwide is that of 'grace periods'. This is a specified period of time (usually 10-30 minutes long) during which you cannot lose The Game after you have already lost."

(Note: LoseTheGame.com is also LoseTheGame.net, it is the primary place for information on The Game.)

 Not done: It is a bad idea to remove the comments of others on a talk page. I have restored the sections above and left your new request here at the end. Now that you have stated the change you'd like to make, you can try to get some agreement here on the talk page before renewing your request. My uninterested opinion is that "to forget the game" is difficult to understand, but that being more specific about the duration of the grace period is an improvement. Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference, the faq and the other reference are ok and both would support "to thirty minutes". Celestra (talk) 08:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah okay, I was just cleaning up some space because I didn't want to flood the talk page... Also, "to forget the game" can be removed... It was just a suggestion but surely not required for it. However thanks for the input, if you want I can revise the above request or let it as-is for any future viewing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ordubis (talk • contribs) 09:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, well since there was an unusually long lapse in time with no reply, I decided to update the above request and I'll see if everyone agrees to the new request. Also, if needed, I would be happy to find more citations to support the request. This is the first thing I have ever requested to change on Wikipedia, so I do apologize if this is at all disorganized.

 Done I re-read the objections above and they don't really apply to the latest request. I'll make the change as requested (except spelling the numbers per MOS) and let the normal process take its course. Thanks for the improvement. Celestra (talk) 00:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

New Re-Direct?

Would it be possible to have the game wiki page redirect from some where else so that in turn. You all lose the game? People could post it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.194.166.124 (talk) 02:20, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, no. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a game itself. DMacks (talk) 04:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Cheating or Not Playing

While rule number one dictates that everyone in the world is playing and no one cannot not play, rule number three states that those who think of the game must announce their loss to at least one other person. If one chooses not to announce their loss is this cheating or a contradiction to rule number one and willfully not playing the game? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.44.198.166 (talk) 17:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

People choosing not to play are not abiding by rule 1, so they are not cheating. On the other hand, if everybody is playing then you cannot choose not to play and thus are cheating. Which one do you prefer? Diego (talk) 21:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:TPG. Content on this page must be about the article content. If your point is that our description of the rules is unclear, fine. Then we need to find a source which has a clearer set of "rules" or explains that the "official rules" are unclear. Without a source there is nothing we can do about that. -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Addition of section including variation in Rules

In my travels I've found there is significant variation in rules to the game in different regions of the world. Primarily, Rule #1 is not always the case. In much of the southeastern US one is actually inducted into the game after hearing someone else's loss and agreeing to play the game in perpetuity if the loser explains the rules of the game. According to these rules if the person who has overheard the loss does not wish to understand what "I lost the game" means they do not have to play.

IMO, In light of this variation amongst so many people an additional section which lists variations in rules and goals in different regions. I have lost the game before to someone from Long Island who told me everyone from there does not instantly announce a loss but rather tries to get other people to lose. Including an extra section on variations in rules would allow for such nuances to be included without a heated debate on what the rules actually are (which of course nobody can say for sure). I feel this would contribute greatly to the depth of the article.

Also... I just lost the game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crunk04gtp (talk • contribs) 19:07, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any reliable sources that discuss these variations. If not they do not belong. I they do bring them here and let people see them and then discuss how the can be incorporated into the article. GB fan 21:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

This article is misinformed

I was first told of the game from various boards in 2004 or so. At that time, Rule #3 did not exist. Rule #3 is a recent, and undesirable, addition to "The Game" because it allows a player to not participate. In the "original" version, it was not possible for anyone, even those who weren't aware that they were playing, to quit or pause, or cheat, the game.

In fact, Rule #3 and the first interpretation of Rule #1 (the first interpretation being the one that was accepted in 2004) are incompatible, because the majority of "players" are not aware of the game. These lucky folk have not yet lost "The Game", but if they do lose it (for example, by hearing a previous "loser" say "The Game"), how can they be expected to announce they have lost? Are these people automatically cheaters?

Also, the origins of the game certainly don't start with "two sound engineers who missed a train". There are thousands of people claiming to have created "The Game", and many of them back it up with more substantial claims than the "two sound engineers". I personally believe it, or at least a basic form of it, was created in 1977 by the Cambridge University Science Fiction Society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.32.163 (talk) 14:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request: The end of The Game(Gameplay > Rules)

In the rules it says that if the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom announces "The Game is up", The Game ends. This is not completely true. It goes more like this: "If the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom(Or the Queen of the United Kingdom) publicly announces that they've lost The Game, The Game is over." Now I'm not 100% sure that this is completely correct, but I'm at least 95% sure that it at least also works with The Queen. 80.5.68.176 (talk) 23:51, 28 July 2012 (UTC)