User talk:Cavarrone

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Thank you

Thank you for your recent positive comments appreciating my quality improvement efforts on an article, much appreciated! :) Thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 16:23, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

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Batth

Hi, you've just removed the PROD at Batth, saying that a look at GBooks shows that the clan "must surely exist". Can you give me some examples, please. - Sitush (talk) 11:53, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

• Horace Arthur Rose, A Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province
• The Illustrated Weekly of India, Volume 94, Part 4
• Alfred Horsford Bingley , Sikhs, Atlantic Publishers & Distri
• Punjab District Gazetteers, Atlantic Publishers & Distri

and so on. Cavarrone (talk) 12:17, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Hm. Not a single one of those is a reliable source. No British Raj ethnology is considered to be reliable: they mixed up clans, mis-spelled names, engaged in scientific racism, created social units that did not exist (a sizeable number of academics even blame them for the caste system), etc. If the clan is not mentioned in modern sources then either it does not exist or it no longer exists. And if our only verification for an extinct clan is Raj sources then the presumption is that the sources are wrong. I'll take it to AfD but hopefully this gives you some useful background for the future. Btw, H. H. Risley and James Tod are particularly useful example articles re: just how poor was the Brit stuff on India (and I am a Brit!). - Sitush (talk) 12:34, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

You looks as an expert in this field so you are probably true. About the rest, prods are for "uncontroversial deletion" and when there are multiple printed sources that refer to the topic its deletion became at the best controversial. Regards, Cavarrone (talk) 12:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

I actually couldn't see those results when I GSearched, hence it was not controversial from my pov. It is a known problem that Google does not return the same results for all users. It still isn't controversial, actually, because my comments above are supported by consensus at WP:RSN etc. But off to waste some time at AfD I go :) Sitush (talk) 13:04, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh understood. Good enough. Cavarrone (talk) 13:05, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Ha! And now I've just realised something. Don't worry about the goings-on but there are documents called "classification lists" maintained by the various states and union territories of India. Basically, they're trying to combat casteism by providing a means of positive discrimination for communities that they deem to be oppressed etc. I'm just wondering whether if I trawl through all 40-odd lists & the (completely different) central government list then I might find a mention somewhere. I'll try to do that over the weekend and if it turns out that they are mentioned then I'll remove the PROD that you have reinstated. My apologies for not thinking of this before - I should know by now that those lists rarely seem to appear in standard searches even though they are hosted on government websites (maybe they use noindex or something like that).

Hey, C, you could get to enjoy sorting out the black hole that is our Indian social article content. If you ever fancy a dabble or are in need of some info then just ping me. - Sitush (talk) 13:35, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

India's page

Hey Cavarrone, personally I support you trying to keep India's real name off her WP article, but going by what I've seen in various "request for comment" discussions lately if there's a credible source available for exactly this kind of thing (birth/given names versus professional names or pseudonyms of any kind) the majority have been siding with inclusion of the real name. Keep up the good work! --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 21:39, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, keep up the good work! Cherryblossom1982 (talk) 19:06, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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AFD Renomination

Several months ago, you commented on an AFD that was closed as no consensus. It has been renominated, and you may wish to comment again. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of defensive gun use incidents (2nd nomination) Gaijin42 (talk) 14:45, 16 December 2012 (UTC)