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A short story, "The Comet, the Cairn and the Capsule", was included in the 1979 short story collection ''[[The Science Fictional Solar System]]'' edited by [[Isaac Asimov]], Charles G. Waugh and [[Martin H. Greenberg]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hycyber.com/SF/sf_solar_system.html |title=The Science Fictional Solar System |year=2000 |accessdate=2010-06-16}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://preem.tejat.net/~tseng/asimov/Books/Book208.html |title=Review of ''The Science Fictional Solar System'' |date=2002-01-08 |accessdate=2010-06-16}}</ref>
A short story, "The Comet, the Cairn and the Capsule", was included in the 1979 short story collection ''[[The Science Fictional Solar System]]'' edited by [[Isaac Asimov]], Charles G. Waugh and [[Martin H. Greenberg]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hycyber.com/SF/sf_solar_system.html |title=The Science Fictional Solar System |year=2000 |accessdate=2010-06-16}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://preem.tejat.net/~tseng/asimov/Books/Book208.html |title=Review of ''The Science Fictional Solar System'' |date=2002-01-08 |accessdate=2010-06-16}}</ref>


Some [[Folk music|folk]] songs he wrote have been published in a [[Music of Scotland#Folk music|Scottish folk]] music anthology.<ref>Gytha North (ed.), "The Old Grey Wassail Test" – Beccon Publications, ISBN 1-870824-11-3, published 1987-08-01)</ref>
Some [[Filk music|filk]] songs he wrote have been published in an anthology.<ref>Gytha North (ed.), "The Old Grey Wassail Test" – Beccon Publications, ISBN 1-870824-11-3, published 1987-08-01)</ref>


==Green children of Woolpit==
==Green children of Woolpit==

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Duncan Lunan
Occupationscience and science fiction writer, astronomer, journalist
NationalityBritish/Scottish
Alma materUniversity of Glasgow

Duncan Alasdair Lunan, born October 1945, is a Scottish author with emphasis on astronomy, spaceflight and science fiction,[1][2] undertaking a wide range of writing and speaking on those and other topics as a researcher, tutor, critic, editor, lecturer and broadcaster.[1] He is known for his science writings[3] as well as for his work on the Sighthill stone circle.[1][4][5][6]

His 1970s report of a possible space probe orbiting around the Moon sent by the inhabitants of a planet orbiting Epsilon Boötis[7] brought him to international notice.[8]

Background

Lunan, who grew up in Troon,[1] claims descent from an illegitimate son of King Robert II of Scotland, Alexander Stuart, who owned the "Lands of Lunaine" near Aberdeen, and, more distantly, from the astronomers of ancient Chaldea "who invented the calendar, hence making agriculture and civilisation possible".[9] In June 1959 he traveled to South Uist in the Hebrides to witness the test launch of an American MGM-5 Corporal, which the British Army had purchased as the nation's first nuclear missile. The 13 year-old student watched the launch with senior NATO military leaders, but at home he was interrogated by the Scottish Office, MI5, Army Intelligence, and the CIA to attempt to determine how he had entered the secret launch site, which the Soviets had put under surveillance.[10]

Lunan was a founder of ASTRA.[2] He is a 1968 bachelor's degree alumnus of the University of Glasgow, is an M.A. with Honours in English and Philosophy and has a post­grad­uate Diploma in Education.[1] He was the Manager of the Glasgow Parks Department's Astronomy Project responsible for building the Sighthill stone circle, the first astronomically aligned megalith built in Britain in 3,000 years.[4][5][11]

Lunan was also a founder and is still a member of the Glasgow Science Fiction Writers' Circle.[12]

He has also served with committee activities on the Argyle Local Housing Association, which is linked to the GHA,[13] including serving as chairman from 2002 to 2006.[14][15]

Despite his 1970s report of a possible space probe of extraterrestrial origins orbiting around the Moon, he insists that he "doesn't believe in UFOs".[16]

His interests include "ancient and mediaeval history, jazz, folk music and hillwalking".[1]

Alien message

In 1973, in an article in Spaceflight, the magazine of the British Interplanetary Society (BIS), he said he had identified and deciphered a hidden radio message sent by an alien space probe[17] that had been caught but overlooked in the late 1920s by a collaboration of Norwegian and Dutch researchers who were studying the long delayed echo effect.[18] Published along with an accompanying editorial disclaimer, Lunan maintained that the putative message came from an object at the L5 point in the same orbit as the Moon, sent by the inhabitants of a planet orbiting Epsilon Boötis.

He came to the conclusion that the message was, "Start here. Our home is Upsilon Bootes, which is a double star. We live on the sixth planet of seven, coming from the sun, which is the larger of the two. Our sixth planet has one moon. Our fourth planet has three. Our first and third planets each have one. Our probe is in the position of Arcturus, known in our maps."[19][20]

The claim was reported in Time[8] and the CBS Evening News.[21] It was included in Rod Serling's 1975 TV documentary In Search of Ancient Mysteries[22] and, many years later, on George Noory's Coast to Coast AM radio show.[23] The alleged message has been variously refuted[19][24][25][26] but has also been inspirational.[27][28][29]

From this theory Mark Brandis was inspired to write his 1974 novel Raumsonde Epsilon (in English Spaceprobe Epsilon).[30][31]

In 1976 Lunan withdrew his original Epsilon Boötis theory, presenting proofs against it and clarifying what had led him to formulate it.[32] However, in 1998 he re-interpreted part of it, claiming support from positional astronomy.[33]

Professional associations

Astronomy

He joined the Scottish branch of the BIS (British Interplanetary Society) in 1962. He was on the committee which drew up the Constitution of ASTRA (Association in Scotland to Research into Astronautics) as an independent society in 1963, and redrafted it as the "Memorandum and Articles of a Company Limited by Guarantee" in 1974. He has been a Council member since December 1963 with only two short breaks, and has been Treasurer, President, Vice-President, Treasurer, President, Secretary, President, Treasurer and Secretary again during that time.[34] He was re-elected Vice President in May 2010. He has been exhibition organiser and on the publications committee since 1970, editing ASTRA's publications in 1982 and between 1992 and 1996.[2] Among many ASTRA conferences he organised one on archaeoastronomy at the Third Eye Centre in 1978 and "Heresies in Archaeoastronomy" at the Edinburgh International Science Festival in 1996.[35]

Lunan and ASTRA have been at the forefront of the proposal of using a waverider for re-entry of spacecraft in the Earth's atmosphere.[36][37][38]

In 1978–79 he was Manager of the Glasgow Parks Department's Astronomy Project.[11]

He was Acting Curator of Airdrie Public Observatory in 1979–80 and was Assistant Curator between 1987 and 1997, becoming a curator again in 2002 and continuing to 2008.[39] ASTRA ceased to run the Observatory for North Lanarkshire District Council in May 2009, ceding the running of the Observatory to the Airdrie Astronomical Association (A.A.A). In 2006 and 2007 Lunan ran astronomy education projects funded by the National Lottery's "Awards for All", with outreach to schools and community groups,[40] followed by a larger project funded by Heritage Lottery for 2007–2008. His monthly astronomy column "The Sky above You" has appeared in various newspapers and magazines.[41][42][43]

He resigned from ASTRA in 2011.[citation needed]

He is also an honorary member of the Clydesdale Astronomical Society.[44]

He has been a Director of the Space Settlers' Society, a space-politics society founded by Andy Nimmo in 1980.[45]

Along with his wife Linda, Duncan Lunan is running the "Astronomers of the Future" club for beginners who are keen to find out more about astronomy and space,[46][47] for which he holds regular talks.[48]

Duncan and Linda Lunan are in discussions about the possibility of helping create a public observatory on the Falkland Islands, with support from the British Antarctic Survey.[49]

Teaching and tutoring

In 1986, he contributed to the launch of the Glasgow Science Fiction Writers Circle by agreeing to run the first of six science fiction and fantasy short story competitions for the Glasgow Herald and to teach the first of six science fiction writing classes at the Glasgow University's Extra-Mural Department, later the Department of Adult and Continuing Education. He is still an active member of the Circle[12][50][51] and took part to its spin-off spoken word project Word Dogs.[52]

Sighthill stone circle

As Manager of the Glasgow Parks Department's Astronomy Project in 1978–79, Duncan Lunan supervised the building of the first astronomically aligned stone circle in Britain in 3,000 years in Sighthill Park.[4][5][6][53]

The conceptual inspiration for the circle came from Lunan's interest in the works of Professor Alexander Thom and his son Dr. Archie Thom, who promoted the understanding of megalithic astronomy, and the subsequent expansion of their work by Dr. Ewan McKie and Professor Archie Roy.[6][54][55] The location of the stone circle, on a low hilltop between tower blocks, the M8 motorway and an incinerator, at a first sight seems hardly ideal. However, Lunan has written that the clear sightline to the sky and a fine view of the city center met the project's objectives.[56] Lunan has written that "In later research, I found that summer solstice fairs had been held on the Summerhill, from which the midsummer Sun rises over the true Sighthill, until they were stopped by the church in the 17th century".[5][54][56]

Once he had identified the best location, Lunan organised the transportation of the stones by a helicopter[57] from HMS Gannet. The Moon Stones, being too heavy, had to be transported by specially adapted lorries.[54][58]

The project was not completed due to criticism by the incoming Thatcher government in 1979,[11][57][59][60] and four stones – two of which were intended to mark equinoctial sunrise and sunset, East and West – are still lying under a bush in Sighthill park.[55][57][59] Lunan is at present campaigning to have the circle renovated and completed, including plans for wheelchair access.[5][54][55][57][59][61][62] The first initiative undertaken to draw attention to the megalith was a summer solstice gathering organised at the site on the evening of the 21 June 2010[6][63] preceded by a presentation on the circle given by Lunan.[6][54][55][62] Lunan reported "positive discussions with Heritage Lottery chiefs in relation to funding for the project, estimated at around 30,000 GBP".[5][6]

Lunan presented plans to make the stone circle a key feature of a city-wide astronomy map, including the entire Solar System represented on the correct scale within the city limits as first proposed by Gavin Roberts, who was the Arts and Photographic Supervisor on the original Project. If the stone circle represented the Sun, Lunan said, Saturn would be by the River Clyde near the Glasgow Science Centre, Jupiter in the campus of the University of Strathclyde, Uranus on Maryhill Road and Neptune and the dwarf planet Pluto at Cathkin Braes, south of Castlemilk.[54][59]

The history of the stone circle was featured in the BBC Radio Scotland show Out of Doors in January 2011.[64][65]

In 2011, Duncan Lunan and his wife Linda founded the Friends of the Sighthill Stone Circle association.[66][67]

Publications

His non-fiction books include Man and the Stars[68] (published in the USA with the titles Interstellar Contact[69] and The Mysterious Signals from Outer Space[70] and translated into French by Jean Sendy as À l'écoute des galaxies[71] and into Spanish by David Molinet as A la escucha de las estrellas[72]), New Worlds for Old,[73] Man and the Planets[74] and Children from the Sky.[75][76][77][78]

He was a science fiction critic for the Glasgow Herald between 1971 and 1985, and ran the paper's science fiction and fantasy short story competitions between 1986 and 2002,[35] edited Starfield, Science Fiction by Scottish Writers for Orkney Press in 1989, to which he also contributed with a short story, "The Square Fella".[79] He also contributed two stories, "'Tirra Lirra' by the River, Sang Sir Lancelot" and "Landscape Modification in the Vicinity of Highgate Cemetery", to the 1988 Drabble Project of the Science Fiction society of the University of Birmingham and published by Beccon.[80][81] He also contributed reviews to Interzone.

He lists amongst his inspirations Percy F. Westerman, Arthur Ransome, Nicholas Monsarrat, Arthur C. Clarke, Patrick Moore, G. K. Chesterton and C. S. Lewis.[82]

A short story, "The Comet, the Cairn and the Capsule", was included in the 1979 short story collection The Science Fictional Solar System edited by Isaac Asimov, Charles G. Waugh and Martin H. Greenberg.[83][84]

Some filk songs he wrote have been published in an anthology.[85]

Green children of Woolpit

In a 1996 Analog Science Fiction and Fact article,[86] Lunan speculated that the Green children of Woolpit were mistakenly transported to Earth[16] due to malfunction in a matter transmitter.[87][88] He also claimed that he can trace the Green Girl's descendants to the present.

Taking a lead from Robert Burton's The Anatomy of Melancholy, he suggests that the children were accidentally returned from a settlement of humans established by extraterrestrials on an earthlike world with a trapped synchronous orbit rotation with unusual genetically modified vegetation, which would allegedly explain their unusual skin color.[86]

He presented his theory on the 9 November 2011 episode of Ground Zero Live conducted by Clyde Lewis.[89]

In 2012 Lunan published Children from the Sky, a study of the green children and the documentation related to them, illustrated by Sydney Jordan.[76][77][78]

References

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  5. ^ a b c d e f "Could Scotland's answer to Stonehenge be written in the stars?". Kirkintilloch Herald. 6 July 2010. Retrieved 23 July 2010.
  6. ^ a b c d e f Lynsay Keough (29 June 2010). "Sighthill Solstice". Glasgow Local News. Retrieved 27 October 2010.
  7. ^ "Spaceprobe from Epsilon Bootes" by Duncan Lunan, in "Spaceflight" (British Interplanetary Society), 1973
  8. ^ a b "Message from a Star". Time Magazine. 9 April 1973. Retrieved 27 August 2009.
  9. ^ Michael S. Collins (2 May 2011). "An Interview with Duncan Lunan – Part One – Unabridged Version (pg 1)". Winterwind Productions. Retrieved 12 May 2011.
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  11. ^ a b c Geoff Holder, "The Guide to Mysterious Glasgow" – The History Press Ltd.,ISBN 978-0-7524-4826-8, published 2009-02-02)
  12. ^ a b "GSFWC website". Retrieved 18 January 2011.
  13. ^ (pg 31) "GHA – Allocations Event flyer". GHA. 2 March 2005. Retrieved 21 March 2011. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  14. ^ (pg 3) "Glasgow West Housing Association-Report and Financial Statement for year ended 31 March 2007". Glasgow West Housing Association Ltd. 2007. Retrieved 21 March 2011. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  15. ^ (pgg 24/25) "GHA -Second Stage Transfer Consultation flyer". GHA. 2 March 2005. Retrieved 21 March 2011. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  16. ^ a b "You're Unbelievable". The Independent. London. 19 April 1997. Retrieved 5 July 2010.
  17. ^ Duncan Lunan. Spaceprobe from Epsilon Bootes. Spaceflight (magazine), British Interplanetary Society, 1973
  18. ^ Sverre Holm (16 March 2004). "The Five Most Likely Explanations for Long Delayed Echoes". University of Oslo. Retrieved 1 September 2009.
  19. ^ a b David Simons (1992). "Space Probe from Epsilon Boötis". Retrieved 10 May 2010.
  20. ^ Sabrina P. Ramet. UFOs over Russia and Eastern Europe Sabrina P. Ramet (5 March 2004). "UFOs over Russia and Eastern Europe". The Journal of Popular Culture.
  21. ^ John Laurence (15 June 1973). "Intelligent Life". CBS Evening News. Retrieved 25 June 2010.
  22. ^ "In Search of Ancient Mysteries". IMDB.com. Retrieved 10 May 2010.
  23. ^ "Anomalies, Trace Cases, & Time Travelers". Coast to Coast AM. 21 March 2007. Retrieved 25 June 2010.
  24. ^ Andrew Mann. "Scientific Evidence of the Existence of Intelligent Life Outside of Earth". Retrieved 10 May 2010.
  25. ^ Chris Boyce (4 January 2003). "Do LDEs Emanate From Alien Probes?". Retrieved 25 June 2010.
  26. ^ Volker Grassmann. "About "ghost echoes" and the "Radio Flying Saucer" effect". Retrieved 18 January 2011.
  27. ^ Alfredo Lissoni. "Gli echi di Lunan (in Italian)". Retrieved 10 May 2010.
  28. ^ Jesús Callejo (January 2008). "Mensajes de otros mundos (in Spanish)". Retrieved 16 June 2010.
  29. ^ "A line that joins the Great Pyramid and the Pyramid of the Sun". spaceagogo.com. Retrieved 28 June 2010.
  30. ^ "Raumsonde Epsilon (in German)". Retrieved 10 June 2010.
  31. ^ "Epsilon-Bootes (in German)". 9 July 2007. Retrieved 10 June 2010.
  32. ^ Journal of the Society of Electronic and Radio Technicians, v10 #8, September 1976: "Long-Delayed Echoes and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis"
  33. ^ Analog Science Fiction and Fact, v118 #3, March 1998; "Epsilon Boötis Revisited" by Duncan Lunan
  34. ^ "ASTRA – Council members". ASTRA Glasgow. 16 August 2010. Retrieved 27 April 2011.
  35. ^ a b "The Duncan Lunan´s Notes". Jeff Hawke's Club. Retrieved 23 June 2011.
  36. ^ Duncan Lunan. "Waverider and ASTRA, a history". ASTRA. Retrieved 20 January 2011.
  37. ^ Dale Amon (23 June 2009). "Waverider rides again". Aerospace Archives. Retrieved 20 January 2011.
  38. ^ Duncan Lunan (28 December 1999). "Prof Terence Nonweiler (obituary)". The Herald Scotland. Retrieved 20 January 2011.
  39. ^ Catriona Stewart (23 October 2008). "Unearth a gem". Evening Times. Retrieved 27 October 2010.
  40. ^ "The Second North Lanarkshire Inter-School Rocketry Competition – 2008". Airdrie Astronomical Association. 2008. Retrieved 27 October 2010.
  41. ^ "Dream Magazine – list of contents". Full Moon S.F. Retrieved 23 June 2011.
  42. ^ "The Locus Index to Science Fiction: 1984–1998 – list of contents". Locus. Retrieved 23 June 2011.
  43. ^ "Duncan Lunan – Summary Bibliography". The Internet Speculative Fiction Database. Retrieved 23 June 2011.
  44. ^ "Clydesdale Astro – members list". Clydesdale Astronomical Society. Retrieved 10 June 2010.
  45. ^ "The Space Settlers' Society". The Space Settlers' Society. 2002. Retrieved 27 October 2010.
  46. ^ Linda Lunan (3 July 2010). "The Astronomers of the Future Club". Astronomers of the Future. Retrieved 5 July 2010.
  47. ^ "Who's Who". Astronomers of the Future. Retrieved 6 September 2010.
  48. ^ "Talks by Duncan Lunan". Astronomers of the Future. Retrieved 6 September 2010.
  49. ^ "Falkland Islands". Astronomers of the Future. Retrieved 6 September 2010.
  50. ^ Neil Williamson (1 July 2005). "Scottish SF". Infinity plus. Retrieved 28 June 2010.
  51. ^ Alan McGillivray (14 May 2000). "Genres in Scottish Writing: Science Fiction". The Association for Scottish Literary Studies. Retrieved 28 June 2010.
  52. ^ "Word Dogs". UnderWord. 1 August 2009. Retrieved 27 October 2010.
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  55. ^ a b c d "Re-newed Stone Circle in Sight". Local News Glasgow. 5 June 2010. Retrieved 24 June 2010.
  56. ^ a b Duncan Lunan (2011). "A Stone Circle for Glasgow". Friends of the Sighthill Stone Circle. Retrieved 28 June 2011.
  57. ^ a b c d "Getting stoned in the right circles". The Herald. 4 June 2010. Retrieved 28 June 2010.
  58. ^ "Duncan Lunan – ASTRA". thebeekmans.org.uk. Retrieved 22 June 2010.
  59. ^ a b c d Peter Ross: 'Going Full Circle', Scotland on Sunday 13 June 2010
  60. ^ Sean Williams (11 June 2010). "Alternatives to Stonehenge: 10 Places to Celebrate the Summer Solstice". Heritage Key. Retrieved 22 June 2010.
  61. ^ "Plans to rejuvenate 'Glasgow's answer to Stone Henge'". BBC. 2 June 2010. Retrieved 9 June 2010.
  62. ^ a b "Glasgow Megalith – astronomer bids to rejuvenate stone circle". Stonehenge News. 7 June 2010. Retrieved 22 June 2010.
  63. ^ "Summer Solstice celebrations". The Herald. 22 June 2010. Retrieved 23 June 2010.
  64. ^ "Out of Doors 08/01/2011". BBC Radio Scotland. 8 January 2011. Retrieved 19 January 2011.
  65. ^ "Sighthill circle still making news". Glasgow Local News. 6 January 2011. Retrieved 19 January 2011.
  66. ^ "Friends of the Sighthill Stone Circle". Glasgow Local News. 2011. Retrieved 21 March 2011.
  67. ^ Grace Franklin (7 May 2011). "Glasgow's Stone Circle becomes active again". Glasgow Local News. Retrieved 22 June 2011.
  68. ^ Duncan Lunan (1974), "Man and the Stars", Souvenir Press, London, ISBN 0-285-62129-7
  69. ^ Duncan Lunan (1975), "Interstellar Contact", Regnery, Chicago, ISBN 0-8092-8258-5
  70. ^ Duncan Lunan (1977), "The Mysterious Signals from Outer Space", Bantam Books, New York, ISBN 978-0-553-02204-9
  71. ^ Duncan Lunan transl. Jean Sendy (1976), "À l'écoute des galaxies", Editions Robert Laffont, Paris
  72. ^ Duncan Lunan transl. David Molinet (1977), "A la escucha de las estrellas", Editorial Argos Vergara, Barcelona, ISBN 978-84-7017-346-2
  73. ^ Duncan Lunan (1979), "New Worlds for Old", Morrow, New York, ISBN 0-688-03486-1
  74. ^ Duncan Lunan (1983), "Man and the Planets", Ashgrove Press, Bath, ISBN 0-906798-17-5
  75. ^ Duncan Lunan (2012), "Children from the Sky", Mutus Liber, Edinburgh, ISBN 978-1908097057
  76. ^ a b "Duncan's three in a row". Local News - Glasgow. 7 October 2011. Retrieved 20 October 2011.
  77. ^ a b Grace Franklin (16 September 2011). "Green for go with Green Children". Local News – Glasgow. Retrieved 23 September 2011.
  78. ^ a b Duncan Lunan (2012), "Children from the Sky", Mutus Liber, Edinburgh, ISBN 978-1908097057, published 2012-05-31
  79. ^ Duncan Lunan (ed.) (1989), "Starfield – Science Fiction by Scottish Writers", Orkney Press, Elgin,ISBN 978-0-907618-21-8
  80. ^ "The Drabble Project". The Drabble Project. Retrieved 18 January 2011.
  81. ^ Rob Meades and David Wake (ed.) (1 April 1988), "Drabble Project", Beccon Publications, Harold Wood, Essex, ISBN 978-1-870824-12-5
  82. ^ Michael S. Collins (2 May 2011). "An Interview with Duncan Lunan – Part One – Unabridged Version (pg 2)". Winterwind Productions. Retrieved 12 May 2011.
  83. ^ "The Science Fictional Solar System". 2000. Retrieved 16 June 2010.
  84. ^ "Review of The Science Fictional Solar System". 8 January 2002. Retrieved 16 June 2010.
  85. ^ Gytha North (ed.), "The Old Grey Wassail Test" – Beccon Publications, ISBN 1-870824-11-3, published 1987-08-01)
  86. ^ a b Analog Science Fiction and Fact, vCXVI #11, September 1996: "Children from the Sky" by Duncan Lunan
  87. ^ Brian Haughton. "The Green Children of Woolpit". Brian Haughton. Retrieved 22 June 2011.
  88. ^ Dr. Karl P. N. Shuker (2010). "The Green Children of Woolpit". The Llewellyn Journal. Retrieved 22 June 2011.
  89. ^ "Ground Zero Live with Clyde Lewis November 9th, 2011". Ground Zero Media. 9 November 2011. Retrieved 24 November 2011.

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