User talk:Khazar2

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Congratulations on the GA

Congratulations on getting First Amendment to the United States Constitution to Good Article!!!

I was wondering if you'd be willing to help copy-edit Freedom for the Thought That We Hate?

It's an FAC candidate at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1 and it seems there are some that feel it could use some polishing of prose a bit more.

I consulted 'How to find good copy-editors and you seem to know the topic of freedom of speech quite well.

Thanks for your consideration, — Cirt (talk) 20:42, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I have a few GA reviews and some article writing lined up for the week that I'll need to get through first. So I may or may not get to it, but I'll be glad to help out if I can. Good luck! -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:44, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, well, any help at all with copy-editing the article itself would be appreciated at this point. — Cirt (talk) 23:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I think we're all set, but feel free to have a look and express your opinion if you like, — Cirt (talk) 05:53, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Congrats on shepherding this one through! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:40, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the edits

I have been disturbed by some of the strange misinformation and bias on Jeremy Hammond page. Thanks for the edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abegaza (talk • contribs) 20:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! I may take a more detailed look at the page later. For stuff like that, which involves an unsourced accusation against a living person (the judge), don't hesitate to take it to WP:BLP/N, where there are always some editors who can help out. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Normando Hernández González

Hey there! I just created an article for the Cuban human rights activist Normando Hernández González and I was wondering if you could look it over and maybe give me a few suggestions. I see your name all over Human Rights pages, and I thought it might be good for the article to have a fresh pair of eyes. Thanks!Comatmebro ^{~Come at me~} 23:06, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Been seeing your name a lot around too! Thanks for all your work on human rights articles lately, and for creating this one. I added some suggestions to that article's talk page, but feel free to take or leave them. If this is a long-term area of interest for you, you might also think about joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Human rights and adding it to your watchlist, sometimes we get some good collaborations going there. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:31, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I really appreciate the notes, I'm definitely gonna start implementing them. And will do, thanks again!Comatmebro ^{~Come at me~} 07:00, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Jelena Balšić

Thank you for the barnstar. When I fist saw that you were going to review my nomination I thought to myself that Jelena Balšić could not get better reviewer. User:AmericanLemming was an icing on the cake. Thank you very much for your review. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, you're very kind! It was my pleasure. -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Non-breaking hyphens

Hello! If you're inserting lots of hyphens it may be a good idea to insert non‑breaking hyphens, so that the word will never be split across two lines on the page. See Hyphen#In computing. Danrok (talk) 12:42, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. I might look reprogram my AWB rules this morning--thanks for the suggestion. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Help with Freedom of speech

• Freedom of speech

You're fresh of a WP:GA with First Amendment to the United States Constitution, I wonder if you could help with Freedom of speech?

I've never really embarked on a major quality improvement project on a "core" or "vital" article on Wikipedia before.

I'm going to try to poke around some other sources to see how they structure this type of article.

We first need to revamp it and reformat the entire page with a much better flow and structure pattern, throughout.

It should have a chronological flow, and be broken up more by history rather than topic or geography. I'm just not sure the best way to do that, yet.

Once that's done, it'll be easier to literally gut the entire page, and then re-expand those new subsections with much better sources than it cites at present.

What do you think? — Cirt (talk) 18:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I think this would be a great article to tackle. It's going to be tricky in lots of ways but it shouldn't be hard to improve over the hodge-podgy approach there now. I think your strategy of seeing other sources' organization makes sense. I'll add it to my watchlist; I don't know that I'll have time to actively help with the research, but I'll be glad to keep an eye on it and consult... thanks for taking this one on! -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:46, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, yeah, I also have other freedom of speech related projects on my list as well, but I'll make updates on the talk page as far as the research goes. — Cirt (talk) 19:11, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Style for centuries in Wikipedia

I have noticed that you are changing the style of how centuries are portrayed in Wikipedia. Have you read WP:CENTURY? This suggests that forms such as 8th century are preferred over 8th-century. MOS:HYPHEN concurs. Please desist. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:41, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• There is absolutely nothing at WP:CENTURY stating what you claim about hyphens. Adjective forms of compound terms like 19th century ("a 19th-century painting") are always hyphened. WP:HYPHEN states "When they form a compound adjective, values and unit names should be separated by a hyphen: for example, a five-day holiday.", and WP:CENTURY gives "Centuries are given in figures or words using adjectival hyphenation where appropriate: the 5th century BCE; nineteenth-century painting. Neither the ordinal nor the word "century" should be capitalised." (emphasis mine) Check the context of the sentence: if there are some that are not being used as adjectives, but still getting hyphens, please provide diffs. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, it seems that you are looking a differnt version of WP:CENTURY. Here is what I see:

Centuries and millennia

For purposes of written style, the English Wikipedia does not recognise a year 0. Therefore, for dates AD (or CE) the 1st century was 1–100, the 17th century was 1601–1700, and the second millennium was 1001–2000; for dates BC (or BCE) the 1st century was 100–1; the 17th century was 1700–1601, and the second millennium was 2000–1001. Centuries and millennia not in quotes or titles should be either spelled out (eighth century) or in Arabic numeral(s) (8th century). The same style should be used throughout any article. Forms such as the 1700s are normally best avoided since it may be unclear whether a 10- or 100-year period is meant (i.e. 1700–1709 or 1700–1799).

Remember that the 18th century (1701–1800) and the 1700s (1700–1799) do not span the exact same period.

I have highlighted the relevant examples so that you can see them them. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:50, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jezhotwells, I appreciate the input, but what appears to be confusing you is the difference between 17th century used as a noun, as in your example above, and 17th-century used as an adjective, as in "17-century painter". You can see the rules for this at MOS:HYPHEN. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• My point exactly, hence why I bolded "using adjectival hyphenation where appropriate ... nineteenth-century painting" (it's there, same version, try using CTRL-F to find it) and asked for diffs of the problem edits, if any. Compare "he is five years old" and "a five-year-old boy"; it's the same grammatical consideration. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:08, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Chenevix-Trench

I've decided to have two chews at the same oyster, and have nominated The Land of Lost Content for GA. As far as I can work out, the only even potentially problematic sources (this time!) are Tim Card's book (not used for anything important), and the Daily Mail. Is there anything I've missed? (It's quite short, of course, but very focused.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I saw that--glad to see you're continuing to work on the topic. It looks good to me at first glance. Since I'm familiar with the subject matter from the ACT review, I may pick this one and give it a quick review in the next week. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Demiurge1000, you may want an extra sentence in the lede at the very least. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Christopher Nolan page

Hello good sir, I understand you have a great deal of experience reviewing wikipedia articles, so my question to you; Is my nomination of Christopher Nolan good enough for a GA? Someone accidentally agreed to review the page, but backed out it seems.

Could you give it a peak and tell me if it needs a lot of work?

- SammyJankis88 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sammyjankis88 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I might be able to do the review soon, but can't make any promises; I've gotten entangled with a few slow-moving reviews at the moment that are taking my attention. Delays are just a part of the GA system, unfortunately, so don't be surprised if it takes a month or two to pick up a reviewer; there are always more editors who want to submit work than to review. Thanks for your work on that one, though--whether or not it's me who reviews it, I hope it makes it to GA! -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Ligier Richier

Thanks for making corrections to article.

All stared me in the face despite having checked and rechecked what I had written!

Most grateful.

Weglinde (talk) 12:22, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Thanks for your work on it! -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:29, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Monsters Inc.

Thanks for all your help Khazar. Koala15 (talk) 00:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! Now we can both sit back and look forward to the sequel... -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:14, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	For your help at Johnny Jordaan and elsewhere. Drmies (talk) 01:07, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Like Thanks for your meticulous work ethic. I've seen you around my Watchlist a few times this week. Enjoy the weekend. ComputerJA (talk) 01:20, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I've had a health flare-up that's kept me in front of the TV half the week--and since I can never keep my hands still, it's been typo-hunting galore! =) Feeling better now, though, and looking forward to the weekend--you enjoy yours as well! -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:23, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad you're feeling better. And thank you! I'm finally home so I'm on going at it, too. :D ComputerJA (talk) 01:30, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

• Glad you're feeling better too. (BTW, I may pop in at the Istiqlal Mosque review if the nominator doesn't show up. Fairly important Indonesian mosque, so it needs the best article it can get) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:36, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

• Great, thanks. I was actually going to ping you about that one, so feel free to chime in or revise at any point... -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

• Certainly! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Istiqlal Mosque GA review

Hi, it was good to see your comprehensive review and advised corrections, any way I feel that the review is closed in very short notice, Please give couple of days to make the corrections, any way I had made some corrections as per your advices, As you pointed the main issue is of RS's and layout. So my plan is to correct the RS's by today and will co-ordinate with the nominating editor to re-structure the original research work in next 2-3 days. So I humble request to your kind self to re-start the review and give us couple of days to solve the matter. As you see the GA nomination will take long time to get started again. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 06:50, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say I think the problems with the article run pretty deep (a large amount of original research, serious copyediting problems, copyright issues, sourcing, etc.), so I think it's best that you take the time to address them outside the normal GA process and then later get a second reviewer's eyes on it. Glad to hear you're going to keep working on this important topic, though. Art and architecture articles tend to get picked up pretty quickly, so hopefully wait won't be an issue. (This one got reviewed in less than a month, after all, which is much better than the average). Again, thanks for all you do! -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:03, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I understand the issues, and will coordinate with the main editor to solve the issue, and most importantly thanks for your advices at the GA review it will defenately guide us to make the article of GA standards. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 14:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! Just let me know if you have any questions or if there's another way I can pitch in. User:Crisco 1492 said above that he might be interested in this one, too, so once you've finished the initial issues, you might ask him for either a copyedit or a GA review. -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:56, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

• Yeah, I'd be happy to - at the very least - give a copyedit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:07, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your both support, I will coordinate with User:QatarStarsLeague (as he is a main contributor and GA nominatior), and will update you as soon as we complete the initial work. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 17:33, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Sagtikos GAN

Responded. Also just of future note, I cannot stand talk page notices, and I state so in the page notices. ;) - Also, I was trying for 100 days at GAN, and I was happy to let it sit there as long as needed. Mitch32^{(It is very likely this guy doesn't have a girlfriend.)} 23:13, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. My apologies for not reading through your talk page rules; you're welcome to simply revert my comment if you like, which should only take a second. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry about ti too much. I'm just a bit of a stickler because it's really a waste of time for certain reasons to be notified. Thanks for the barnstar though. Mitch32^{(It is very likely this guy doesn't have a girlfriend.)} 13:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

You're very welcome--thanks again for all your contributions. Keep it up, you might get to 100 days at GAN yet. =) -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:41, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Good Article nomination of Capital punishment

This article is a good article nominee.It would be of great help if U review this article.Any suggestions are highly welcome.Thanks!Suri 100 (talk) 01:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)