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I would like to officially you ask for help to have this issue seen by someone who I feel is not unfairly against me. In your initial appraisal of this article you said it was 'likely written by the subject' and 'promotional'. Are these the points we are clearing up, or are we spinning off topic and just answering any reason why it is NOT acceptable to keep this article? The subject does not pass the professional swimmer criteria also, but has this got anything to do with the article?!
I would like to officially you ask for help to have this issue seen by someone who I feel is not unfairly against me. In your initial appraisal of this article you said it was 'likely written by the subject' and 'promotional'. Are these the points we are clearing up, or are we spinning off topic and just answering any reason why it is NOT acceptable to keep this article? The subject does not pass the professional swimmer criteria also, but has this got anything to do with the article?!
The input from the people commenting is purely NOT following the guidelines or the actual article content itself. The article notes the notoriety matter, and it has nothing to do with professional sport playing.
The input from the people commenting is purely NOT following the guidelines or the actual article content itself. The article notes the notoriety matter, and it has nothing to do with professional sport playing.
p.s. I am not stating you are against me, just that this seems to have started on the wrong foot, and now I think someone with fresh college knowledge in soccer may help this issue most, rather than seeing this reasons for deletion change over time.

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2 accounts

Please decide which account you wish to edit under; I will then block the other account. GiantSnowman 11:14, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can get rid of the georgeff9 account - as I don't feel right using that name - I signed up using it due to the article I intended to write for wiki. Though, I wold rather that name be done with. I would however like to have all the work that I did, not to be blocked or deleted along with that... a simple merge into this newer username would be the best option, though I dont know if that is possible.

I wanted to add some saved pdf's and jpg items from my computer to add as references - is there a way I can do this?

You ideally should have used Wikipedia:Changing username, as "Accounts cannot be merged or deleted. They can only be renamed." I will block the old username. What kind of things are you trying to upload? PDFs cannot be uploaded anyway. GiantSnowman 12:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - I tried to merge accounts and change names... but this was much outside of my wiki talent :/ I would like if possible to add some things like newspaper articles and other posters and advertisements that I either took photo's of or have in clear scanned jpg format also... which would be some very good references for the article.

If you want to use something off-line (i.e. newspaper clipping) as a reference then you are able to do so, there is no need to 'upload'. GiantSnowman 12:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GiantSnowman - I assume you knew that blocking the one account would also block me from editing material (or adding citations) to the article I wrote...? I would appreciate if you unblocked - I have been very honest with you about my dealings. Why did you state that I am 'Abusing' multiple accounts? I simply felt in FEAR of using my other using name, which you seem to make very public over and over being mine. Is there a way I can get this thread read by more than one administrator? I am starting to feel unfairly targeted. I WAS TOLD BY A PREVIOUS ADMIN IN WIKI - that the easiest option is to sign up a new account... and now I get blocked for doing the action that was suggested to me. GiantSnowman, please let me be able to add discussion - without unfairly blocking my input for no real reason.

This user's request to have autoblock on their IP address lifted has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.
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Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Georgeff9". The reason given for Georgeff9's block is: "Abusing multiple accounts: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_tal


Accept reason: Auto block removed, apologies. GiantSnowman 12:53, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, forgot to 'untick' the autoblock IP function when I blocked your previous account. But which Admin told you to open a 2nd account? GiantSnowman 12:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It was an honest mistake, you need to assume good faith and stop thinking the worst of people, and stop SHOUTING about being targeted when you are not in the slightest. If you want further help then use {{help me}}. GiantSnowman 12:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you very much... I am sure you can understand how I was feeling... I was assuming you just blocked my voice with the click of a button. But, thank you for being honest, and letting me continue. Yes, I will assume good faith from now on. Sorry - my emotion comes out in writing... I was told on this random page about opening a new account, and read it on wiki also... because I didnt want the previous username to be everywhere as I originally just used it as a test... and ended up writing the whole article... and I would like to not be associated with that username...

My advice at IRC to Georgeff9 about his username

I met this user first at IRC. He came on regarding his draft. During the discussion, he said he did not wish to have that username. I told him that he could either abandon his old name or seek to change it at Wikipedia:Changing username. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC) Yes this is exactly right. (Samej1902 (talk) 23:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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Some friendly advice

Firstly, please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Secondly, I would like to show you this AFD, in which an editor had his account indefinitely blocked for posting large walls of text, and for repeating and repeating the same points over and over again to the point where it became disruptive. That is how your edits to the James Georgeff AFD are now starting to appear. You have made your point, multiple times, and people still do not believe he is notable. Either introduce something new, or let others have a say. GiantSnowman 10:18, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I understand - but why is the question being raised about professionalism??? WP:NCOLLATH - this is the only standard that the article claims...Is there any other first overall draft picks in any Major League Sport that do not have the notoriety to have an article submitted? GiantSnowman, some of the people involving in this discussion seem to have many dealings with you, and I believe are reiterating your exact point over and over... It would be like me asking a few of my friends to get involved and write my input with a different signature over and over.

I would like to officially you ask for help to have this issue seen by someone who I feel is not unfairly against me. In your initial appraisal of this article you said it was 'likely written by the subject' and 'promotional'. Are these the points we are clearing up, or are we spinning off topic and just answering any reason why it is NOT acceptable to keep this article? The subject does not pass the professional swimmer criteria also, but has this got anything to do with the article?! The input from the people commenting is purely NOT following the guidelines or the actual article content itself. The article notes the notoriety matter, and it has nothing to do with professional sport playing. p.s. I am not stating you are against me, just that this seems to have started on the wrong foot, and now I think someone with fresh college knowledge in soccer may help this issue most, rather than seeing this reasons for deletion change over time.