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Hello there. Citing a TV episode is fine; just use the {{tl|Cite episode}} template. (eg. <nowiki><ref>{{cite episode|title=Episode 4|series=Propaganda in the Attic|station=...etc}}</ref></nowiki>) --[[User:McGeddon|McGeddon]] ([[User talk:McGeddon|talk]]) 17:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC) |
Hello there. Citing a TV episode is fine; just use the {{tl|Cite episode}} template. (eg. <nowiki><ref>{{cite episode|title=Episode 4|series=Propaganda in the Attic|station=...etc}}</ref></nowiki>) --[[User:McGeddon|McGeddon]] ([[User talk:McGeddon|talk]]) 17:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== Accident == |
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That was an honest accident, I was improving the citation and there was an edit conflict, and I thought I erased it by mistake while I was editing. Please don't assume the worst of me. [[User:Ash Loomis|Ash Loomis]] ([[User talk:Ash Loomis|talk]]) 22:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Guide to referencing
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I thought you might find it useful to have some information about references (refs) on wikipedia. These are important to validate your writing and inform the reader. Any editor can remove unreferenced material; and unsubstantiated articles may end up getting deleted, so when you add something to an article, it's highly advisable to also include a reference to say where it came from. Referencing may look daunting, but it's easy enough to do. Here's a guide to getting started.
A reference must be accurate, i.e. it must prove the statement in the text. To validate "Mike Brown climbed Everest", it's no good linking to a page about Everest, if Mike Brown isn't mentioned, nor to one on Mike Brown, if it doesn't say that he climbed Everest. You have to link to a source that proves his achievement is true. You must use reliable sources, such as published books, mainstream press, and authorised web sites. Blogs, Myspace, Youtube, fan sites and extreme minority texts are not usually acceptable, nor is original research (e.g. your own unpublished, or self-published, essay or research), or another wikipedia article.
The first thing you have to do is to create a "Notes and references" section (unless it already exists). This goes towards the bottom of the page, below the "See also" section and above the "External links" section. Enter this code:
The next step is to put a reference in the text. Here is the code to do that. It goes at the end of the relevant term, phrase, sentence, or paragraph to which the note refers, and after punctuation such as a full stop, without a space (to prevent separation through line wrap):
Whatever text you put in between these two tags will become visible in the "Notes and references" section as your reference.
Open the edit box for this page, copy the following text (inserting your own text where indicated), paste it at the bottom of the page and save the page:
(End of text to copy and paste.) It should appear like this:
You need to include the information to enable the reader to find your source. For an online newspaper source, it might look like this:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Note the single square brackets around the URL and the article title. The format is:
Make sure there is a space between the URL and the Title. This code results in the URL being hidden and the title showing as a link. Use double apostrophes for the article title (it is quoted text), and two single quote marks either side of the name of the paper (to generate italics). Double square brackets round the name of the paper create an internal link (a wikilink) to the relevant wikipedia article. Apostrophes must go outside the brackets. The date after The Guardian is the date of the newspaper, and the date after "Retrieved on" is the date you accessed the site – useful for searching the web archive in case the link goes dead. Dates are wikilinked so that they work with user preference settings to display the date in the format the user wishes.
You can use sources which are not online, but which you have found in a library or elsewhere—in which case leave out the information which is not relevant. The newspaper example above would be formatted like this:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Here is an example for a book:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Make sure you put two single quote marks round the title (to generate italics), rather than one double quote mark.
These formats are all acceptable for dates:
You may prefer to use a citation template to compile details of the source. The template goes between the ref tags and you fill out the fields you wish to. Basic templates can be found here: Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles/Citation quick reference
The first time a reference appears in the article, you can give it a simple name in the <ref> code:
The second time you use the same reference in the article, you need only to create a short cut instead of typing it all out again:
You can then use the short cut as many times as you want. Don't forget the /, or it will blank the rest of the article! A short cut will only pick up from higher up the page, so make sure the first ref is the full one. Some symbols don't work in the ref name, but you'll find out if you use them. You can see multiple use of the same refs in action in the article William Bowyer (artist). There are 3 sources and they are each referenced 3 times. Each statement in the article has a footnote to show what its source is.
The above method is simple and combines references and notes into one section. A refinement is to put the full details of the references in their own section headed "References", while the notes which apply to them appear in a separate section headed "Notes". The notes can be inserted in the main article text in an abbreviated form as seen in Harriet Arbuthnot or in a full form as in Brown Dog affair.
More information can be found at:
I hope this helps. If you need any assistance, let me know. |
Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Centerone! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 735 article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the article:
- Leo Sewell - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 22:39, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
External links
Please stop restoring the link. As per WP:EL, Wikipedia is not a directory service, and we do not list links simply because they exist - no matter who the owner is. If you feel strongly that the link should be mentioned, then take it up on the talk page. However, repeatedly restoring it is not appropriate. Thank you in advance. --Ckatzchatspy 17:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Please stop continuously deleting the link. It has already been accepted and discussed on the talk page. In addition, it is as close to an 'official' page (detailing all the series) as we are going to get at this time. Centerone (talk) 18:11, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
re [1] My bad! I should've done more research.. "fluffy toy" just seemed really silly that's all.. :) but I guess that's just part of his character? Anyway, I think he's quite entertaining.. Die Antwoord is hilarious! -- Ϫ 12:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
May 2010
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Matt Smith (actor). Thank you. magnius (talk) 22:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
July 2010
Hello Centerone, please see the talk page of the WCAU article regarding your re-addition of unreferenced BLP list material. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 14:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
September 2010
I am seeking a definition of the Northwood neighborhood, at Talk:Northwood, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Please comment if you can. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not terribly familiar with Northwood. I do know that they have had a lot of internal political problems with members of the Northwood Civic Association (basically the ex director vs. everybody else.) but that's about all I know. Centerone (talk) 01:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 17:49, 6 November 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
February 2012
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Jeff Mach, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Yworo (talk) 16:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
- Bull. The tag said that if someone objected to it, it could be removed. Centerone (talk) 06:28, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
- The prod tag could be removed. The notability and unreliable sources tags had not been resolved. Yworo (talk) 07:10, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
May I call you...
Jeff? Yworo (talk) 08:42, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
- No, but your name clearly starts with another J. Centerone (talk) 19:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
- Y? If it weren't for people like me, Wikipedia would be completely useless, full of advertising and stuff people just make up. There is never any reason to worry about AfDs. If the subject is notable, the article will be kept. If it's not, that's what we call a "reality check" on your knowledge of our notability requirements. Yworo (talk) 19:42, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Ninja page move
Hi Centerone. I have added some additional information on why I believe the page move is justified. As he contacted me directly about this matter because of the work I did at the Leon Botha BLP (thanks for your work there also), I wonder if you'd be persuaded if he contacted you directly as well? I did not have an opinion previously, but he made a compelling case to me. Thanks! Jokestress (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- I thought I responded to this previously, but apparently it didn't go through. I wouldn't mind if he contacted me directly, as I think all of his work is brilliant. That being said, while I understand some of the reasons why he might want to be known as Ninja, or any other chosen name, I doubt he would have a really compelling argument for me. Perhaps if Ninja wasn't such a characterization and didn't seem so dismissive of his former work he might, but that is not how he has chosen to play this incarnation. I suppose part of it would depend upon how willing he is, in private, to step out of character and lay out his reasoning. However, I am not here to debate him or disagree with his artistic choices; I respect them. However, I also respect and value his former projects equally, too. Centerone (talk) 06:03, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's not up to you, you freaking idiot, to make commentary on your opinion of a Wikipedia editor's name. What do you think this is? Junior High School? 67.188.212.174 (talk) 17:56, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, bitter much? You come here to make one ridiculous statement about an edit of yours I reverted because it gets things wrong, and then you comment on something totally unrelated and totally misinterpret that, too! Oh, BTW, I was right in this case. I recommend a course in reading comprehension. Centerone (talk) 19:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- It's not up to you, you freaking idiot, to make commentary on your opinion of a Wikipedia editor's name. What do you think this is? Junior High School? 67.188.212.174 (talk) 17:56, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Get a life. Get in tune with the truth
I don't know who you are, or where you come from, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It deals with provable, citable, encylopedic facts. Not some fan cunt from a marketing department who wants to make an Internet splash.
I'm not being polite, because no politeness is due. You're a dishonest editor, and in a perfect world, you wouldn't be allowed air space for this kind of edit.[2] 67.188.212.174 (talk) 17:54, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- For anybody wondering, this fine upstanding example of a gentleman is referring to the following edit which I reverted, which I even noted was a "good faith" edit, but got things wrong... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devo&diff=528697582&oldid=528695253 He then came and edited my revert, and commented in the comment box about the edit, "kiss off. all this shit you replaced is uncited marketing crap. Yes, I mean you." which I then reverted. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devo&diff=528995190&oldid=528986689 Centerone (talk) 18:55, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Mark B. Cohen article
Some anonymous person is offended by the article on Mark B. Cohen, which you have defended in the past. Not only have the criticizing tags been reinstated, but a motion for speedy deletion has been filed. Please intervene to preserve a detailed article full of cited, well-documented facts. Ironically, just two days before this attempt for speedy deletion, a complainant removed material I had posted that he said was potentially negative to Mr. Cohen. Thanks for your help in this matter.
9User talk: Zulitz Zulitz, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- It looks like someone else took care of this. Also, a speedy deletion is a joke and was clearly going to fail. Centerone (talk) 04:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Keep Calm and Cite Television
Hello there. Citing a TV episode is fine; just use the {{Cite episode}} template. (eg. <ref>{{cite episode|title=Episode 4|series=Propaganda in the Attic|station=...etc}}</ref>) --McGeddon (talk) 17:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Accident
That was an honest accident, I was improving the citation and there was an edit conflict, and I thought I erased it by mistake while I was editing. Please don't assume the worst of me. Ash Loomis (talk) 22:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)