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==Chozen is a coward==
==Chozen is a coward==
Could it be interpreted that Chozen didn't help Daniel because he is afraid? During the typhoon he seemed reluctant to help Daniel because of the perilous situation than anything else. He also didn't go back to help his uncle. So could it be that the entire movie with Chozen calling Daniel a coward, that he was the actual coward? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.236.216.155|108.236.216.155]] ([[User talk:108.236.216.155|talk]]) 07:22, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Could it be interpreted that Chozen didn't help Daniel because he is afraid? During the typhoon he seemed reluctant to help Daniel because of the perilous situation than anything else. He also didn't go back to help his uncle. So could it be that the entire movie with Chozen calling Daniel a coward, that he was the actual coward? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.236.216.155|108.236.216.155]] ([[User talk:108.236.216.155|talk]]) 07:22, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Chozen is afraid and showing his cowardice, yes. But I believe the real point of the scene was to reinforce that Chozen is the atypical bully. The atypical bully is a coward at heart who very typically has little to no honor. As long as their in control everything is great. But whenever that control is taken from them their reaction is either one of fear or out right cowardice depending on just how badly they don't have control of the situation. Chozen's facing two elements of a loss of control during the typoon, the loss of his sponsor and the typhoon itself. Consider how often movies and TV series will depict the atypical bully as always working for someone more powerful, this person is what I'm calling their sponsor; their usually the person who gives the atypical bully their power and sense of control. If the sponsor becomes incapacitated, killed, or believed to be dead then the atypical bully is already going to have a reason to be afraid. In Chozen's case, his uncle Sato is his sponsor and when his dojo collapse on him Chozen, like the atypical bully he is, views this to mean he's dead. Without his sponsor and without any sense of control because of the storm Chozen resorts to the basic atypical bully nature of cowardice. This also means that he is going to view Daniel's actions as dishonoring him rather than admitting it is his own actions that are bringing him dishonor. -anonymous 10/12/2013 10:17 PM EST

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Possible Goofs

Is this a goof? Wouldn't Chozen's use of hollow weights benefit the seller (the villagers) and not the buyer? For example, the villagers would be selling 10 pounds of carrots to Chozen, but in reality only giving him 8 pounds because the 10 pound weight only weighs 8 pounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsirjojo (talkcontribs) 17:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are correct. This should be pointed out, and maybe should be added to the trivia section or be in a goofs section. 2S 21:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)2S[reply]
Unless a reliable source points that out, we cannot put it into the article. As editors, our opinions outside of plot summaries are not usable as sources. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 13:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chozen is a coward

Could it be interpreted that Chozen didn't help Daniel because he is afraid? During the typhoon he seemed reluctant to help Daniel because of the perilous situation than anything else. He also didn't go back to help his uncle. So could it be that the entire movie with Chozen calling Daniel a coward, that he was the actual coward? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.236.216.155 (talk) 07:22, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chozen is afraid and showing his cowardice, yes. But I believe the real point of the scene was to reinforce that Chozen is the atypical bully. The atypical bully is a coward at heart who very typically has little to no honor. As long as their in control everything is great. But whenever that control is taken from them their reaction is either one of fear or out right cowardice depending on just how badly they don't have control of the situation. Chozen's facing two elements of a loss of control during the typoon, the loss of his sponsor and the typhoon itself. Consider how often movies and TV series will depict the atypical bully as always working for someone more powerful, this person is what I'm calling their sponsor; their usually the person who gives the atypical bully their power and sense of control. If the sponsor becomes incapacitated, killed, or believed to be dead then the atypical bully is already going to have a reason to be afraid. In Chozen's case, his uncle Sato is his sponsor and when his dojo collapse on him Chozen, like the atypical bully he is, views this to mean he's dead. Without his sponsor and without any sense of control because of the storm Chozen resorts to the basic atypical bully nature of cowardice. This also means that he is going to view Daniel's actions as dishonoring him rather than admitting it is his own actions that are bringing him dishonor. -anonymous 10/12/2013 10:17 PM EST