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Jasmine Waltz

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Fails WP notability criteria. Thre or four minor roles as an actress, and currently a 'contestant' on Celebrity Big Brother - though as huffingtonpost.co.uk/entertainment/ points out, few seem to have heard of her: "When Jasmine Waltz strutted into the 'Celebrity Big Brother' house this year everyone (including us) asked, 'who she?'." [1] If the best source for assertions concerning notability states explicitly that the person has failed to be noted, one has to conclude that they are right. As with all contestants ('celebrity' and otherwise) on such shows, there is the usual tabloid gossip and vacuous bollocks doing the rounds, though none of it is fit for purpose as a source on a biography, and none of it does anything to establish notability. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:43, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 19:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 19:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• redirect toCelebrity Big Brother 13 per WP:BLP1E -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment WP:BLP1E is a bit of a stretch given that she was famous before she appeared on Celebrity Big Brother 13.[2] A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Um, how does an article entitled "Who is Jasmine Waltz?" indicate that she is famous? If she was, they wouldn't have to ask. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:32, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

"Famous" for her dating? How encyclopedic. Bishonen | talk 20:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Lots of notable people aren't well-known. I bet most people don't know who Chester Thompson is, but that doesn't make him not notable. Also, the source in which you quote, is the British version of the Huffington Post. I'm sure that there are also lots of British actors and actresses who aren't well-known in the US either. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

You aren't seriously suggesting that Waltz meets our notability criteria as an actress? AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:43, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I haven't expressed an opinion either way. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:51, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Keep per A Quest For Knowledge.--Launchballer 20:29, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

AQFN hasn't !voted... AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Alright then. The combination of Celebrity Big Brother, appearances in films and her personal life add up to a keep. Better?--Launchballer 21:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Worse. You have failed to explain which specific Wikipedia notability criteria Waltz meets, and why. Incidentally, everyone has a 'personal life' - it doesn't make them notable. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I meant her affiliation with other celebrities, which pre-Celebrity Big Brother was probably what she was best known for. Still discounting that, WP:1EVENT - she is known for more than one event.--Launchballer 21:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Notability isn't inherited. And nor can it be acquired by dating notable people... AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• Delete, or redirect as per TRPoD above. Now that the worst of the BLP vios have been removed (most of them not by me, though I just blanked a nasty quote), there's practically nothing left. No notability, for sure. I'm surprised to learn from the history that an admin moved Launchballer's (see the "Keep" just above) userspace draft in this wretched condition into mainspace, in preference to deleting it as an attack page. I'm still tempted to speedy it per WP:A7, but I guess it's a bit late in the day for that. Bishonen | talk 20:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

• Delete Nom + Bish sum it up nicely. Can someone just recreate a deleted article?Two kinds of pork (talk) 21:32, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• Deleteas entirely non notable. I found [3] (the Daily Mail, so anybody fastidious won't want to look) which describes her as being more famous for her 'love life' than her acting. Delete as gossip-column trash.TheLongTone (talk) 21:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• Keep I was surprised when I saw she didn't have one. I know homewreckers like Katia Ivanova and Natasha Giggs don't have entries of their own, but both were not in the public eye prior to their affair and disappeared shortly after their short CBB stints. Jasmine has at least appeared in films, albeit small roles. I say keep as she is at least notable to an extent, and lots of bit player actresses have entries on here. Reli source (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)