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" ...it did specifically demand that Luther retract 41 errors " ooh, so these were errors by whose standards? [[Special:Contributions/77.2.76.128|77.2.76.128]] ([[User talk:77.2.76.128|talk]]) 20:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
" ...it did specifically demand that Luther retract 41 errors " ooh, so these were errors by whose standards? [[Special:Contributions/77.2.76.128|77.2.76.128]] ([[User talk:77.2.76.128|talk]]) 20:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

"Other condemnations represent new papal interventions on matters that had been freely disputed among Catholic scholars and theologians before that time. For example, Luther's denial of free will after the Fall is censured even though the church father Augustine had taught the same view.[22]"

The Wiki article on Augustine even affirms that his view was in fact endorsed by the catholic church. From his work, City of God, Book 5, "we assert both that God knows all things before they come to pass, and that we do by our free will whatsoever we know and feel to be done by us only because we will it." (The City of God, St. Augustine of Hippo, Translated by Marcus Dods, Hendrickson Publishers, Peabody MA, page 138.)

Therefore, I should delete these sentences entirely for lack of substantial documentation. The citation provided does not a primary source and offers no source of information itself.

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VFD Result

The result of the VFD can be found here: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Exsurge Domine -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:02, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

== We need a decent overview of the background to this bull, to its reception and a summary of its contents. It was the first Papal condemnation of Luther and Lutherans. --CTSWyneken(talk) 00:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who actually wrote it?

Was Leo X enough of a theologian to compose this text by himself? If not, who else actually wrote it? -- 85.177.186.9 (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

contents?

does anyone know what the 41 things were? Gailim (talk) 04:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

errors ?

" ...it did specifically demand that Luther retract 41 errors " ooh, so these were errors by whose standards? 77.2.76.128 (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Other condemnations represent new papal interventions on matters that had been freely disputed among Catholic scholars and theologians before that time. For example, Luther's denial of free will after the Fall is censured even though the church father Augustine had taught the same view.[22]"

The Wiki article on Augustine even affirms that his view was in fact endorsed by the catholic church. From his work, City of God, Book 5, "we assert both that God knows all things before they come to pass, and that we do by our free will whatsoever we know and feel to be done by us only because we will it." (The City of God, St. Augustine of Hippo, Translated by Marcus Dods, Hendrickson Publishers, Peabody MA, page 138.)

Therefore, I should delete these sentences entirely for lack of substantial documentation. The citation provided does not a primary source and offers no source of information itself.