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::::::::::::Please them reverting because [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT|you don't like it]], and also [[WP:OWN|you don't own the article]]. I have compromised, you just wnat your own way all the time. [[User:Snappy|Snappy]] ([[User talk:Snappy|talk]]) 17:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC) |
::::::::::::Please them reverting because [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT|you don't like it]], and also [[WP:OWN|you don't own the article]]. I have compromised, you just wnat your own way all the time. [[User:Snappy|Snappy]] ([[User talk:Snappy|talk]]) 17:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::I am fully aware that I don't article. Based on your previous behaviour, it seems that you are not aware that you don't own it either. [[Special:Contributions/79.97.226.247|79.97.226.247]] ([[User talk:79.97.226.247|talk]]) 15:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC) |
:::::::::::::I am fully aware that I don't article. Based on your previous behaviour, it seems that you are not aware that you don't own it either. [[Special:Contributions/79.97.226.247|79.97.226.247]] ([[User talk:79.97.226.247|talk]]) 15:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC) |
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==Murals== |
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Is there a list of murals? Could murals be mentioned in this article? I ask this as, tragically in my opinion, the "Sweeney astray" mural, up the steps from the Aongus Óg Chariot of Life statue in the Irish Life Center has been demolished [http://www.thejournal.ie/mosaic-irish-life-1006827-Jul2013/] [https://mazgeenlegendary.wordpress.com/2013/07/26/buile-suibhne-mural-destroyed/] [[User:ClemMacGána|ClemMacGána]] ([[User talk:ClemMacGána|talk]]) 18:35, 29 January 2015 (UTC) |
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No References
I added a no citations tag because none of the information in this article is verified by reliable sources. Rigby27 Talk 18:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- I understand the concern over these nicknames, however what I think will be a problem is that these are part of an oral tradition in Ireland/Dublin and are passed mainly by word of mouth. I have not contributed to this article but as a Dubliner I've heard almost ever name here multiple times and use them myself. If someone really did want to find literal references there may be some in local and national newspapers. This has become something of a national passtime over the past 10-15 years so often a new monument would be announced with a front page article using a suggested nickname. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.161.6 (talk) 12:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Nicknames
The names are all newspaper suggestions. Nobody uses them in real conversations . Have u ever heard any one say ' ill meet you outside the kylemore beside the prick with the sticks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.196.179 (talk) 20:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. I've done some editing and tried to re-focus the article on the statues themselves and tone down the nicknames. Snappy (talk) 21:48, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Nicknames — Subsection?
The previous article on nicknames was great fun, if perhaps not entirely appropriate as the only article on Dublin statues. And of course, nicknames aren't always used for directions, but those in Dublin do reflect the humour of the city.
How about adding a shortish section on nicknames? Emphasise that this is part of Dublin craic.
Korhomme (talk) 20:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- Absolutely not! This is a serious encyclopedia, not a collection of humorous things you heard in a pub! Start your website if you want that sort of thing. Snappy (talk) 17:50, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- Voting YES on nicknames. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.209.211.134 (talk) 00:18, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
IP editor restoring old version
Why is user:79.97.226.247 reverting to a year old version of this article? It's been cleaned up alot since then. I see no valid reason for reversion. If 79.97.226.247 wants to restore those dubious nicknames, then please provide reliable references. Snappy (talk) 15:33, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- You deleted information pertaining to the nicknames of statues without any discusssion. That's the valid reason for reversion. The nicknames of statues are relevant to the page - there's a reason why Dublin statues and their nicknames redirects to this page, it was decided to redirect the page to here rather than delete it. Just because you think that the nicknames are "silly" doesn't make them irrelevant to the page. A parks superintendent with Dublin City Council has even commented on the topic of nicknames when talking to the media about the relocation of a statue. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 15:49, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- I have deleted the dubious nicknames that some wit came up with in a pub 15 years ago but never stuck. Just because there is a reference somewhere that a statue was once called by a nickname does not mean it is in common usage. This is not an indiscriminate list of every nickname that was every thought up for every statue in Dublin. The is called "Statues in Dublin" not Nicknames of Statues in Dublin. Please stop reverting to an old version, if you must then try adding a nickname with a recent reliable reference. Snappy (talk) 17:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- As I have already explained, the page Dublin statues and their nicknames was redirected here for a reason rather than deleting it. Please stop removing cited content. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 20:09, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- That was the original article, which was saved "if the "nicknames" part was removed". this article is about statues not nicknames, please stop adding them with your dubious, ancient and out of date references. As I said they were thought up years ago, but none of those have stuck, I live in Dublin, I know! Snappy (talk) 17:06, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- That was in relation to unreferences nicknames. All nicknames bar one are now cited. I have added ten additional references, and marked the remaining unreferenced nickname with a cn tag. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it irrelevant to the article. The fact that the nicknames are mentioned again and again in works on topics as diverse as cultural studies, travel, linguistics, and military history shows that they are clearly pertinent. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 17:21, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- Please stop adding these dubious nicknames with old unreliable references. The article is about statues not nicknames. Snappy (talk) 19:28, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- There is nothing dubious about the nicknames, or unreliable about the references. As I have already pointed out, the fact that they are covered in many diverse works clearly shows them to be a noteworthy element of the topic. Please stop removing cited content without a valid reason. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 14:27, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- As an attempted compromise, I have put the nicknames in their own section. I hope this will be agreeably. Snappy (talk) 15:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- You're still removing cited content. And there's no need that I can see for nicknames to have their own section. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 22:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- Try to compromise again, so I think it reads better this way with a nicknames section, and now all cited content that you added is there. Snappy (talk) 21:24, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- Why put them in a different section? The nicknames are an important part of the article, not an appendage. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 02:14, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- The article is primarily about Statutes in Dublin. Only a minority of them have nicknames (14 of 75 or 18%), so it makes to group them in their own section. In any article, things in common are usually put together in a common section. Again, try to compromise with you but getting nothing back! Snappy (talk) 16:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Please them reverting because you don't like it, and also you don't own the article. I have compromised, you just wnat your own way all the time. Snappy (talk) 17:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- I am fully aware that I don't article. Based on your previous behaviour, it seems that you are not aware that you don't own it either. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 15:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
- Why put them in a different section? The nicknames are an important part of the article, not an appendage. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 02:14, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- Try to compromise again, so I think it reads better this way with a nicknames section, and now all cited content that you added is there. Snappy (talk) 21:24, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- You're still removing cited content. And there's no need that I can see for nicknames to have their own section. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 22:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- As an attempted compromise, I have put the nicknames in their own section. I hope this will be agreeably. Snappy (talk) 15:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- There is nothing dubious about the nicknames, or unreliable about the references. As I have already pointed out, the fact that they are covered in many diverse works clearly shows them to be a noteworthy element of the topic. Please stop removing cited content without a valid reason. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 14:27, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Please stop adding these dubious nicknames with old unreliable references. The article is about statues not nicknames. Snappy (talk) 19:28, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- That was in relation to unreferences nicknames. All nicknames bar one are now cited. I have added ten additional references, and marked the remaining unreferenced nickname with a cn tag. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it irrelevant to the article. The fact that the nicknames are mentioned again and again in works on topics as diverse as cultural studies, travel, linguistics, and military history shows that they are clearly pertinent. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 17:21, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- That was the original article, which was saved "if the "nicknames" part was removed". this article is about statues not nicknames, please stop adding them with your dubious, ancient and out of date references. As I said they were thought up years ago, but none of those have stuck, I live in Dublin, I know! Snappy (talk) 17:06, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- As I have already explained, the page Dublin statues and their nicknames was redirected here for a reason rather than deleting it. Please stop removing cited content. 79.97.226.247 (talk) 20:09, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- I have deleted the dubious nicknames that some wit came up with in a pub 15 years ago but never stuck. Just because there is a reference somewhere that a statue was once called by a nickname does not mean it is in common usage. This is not an indiscriminate list of every nickname that was every thought up for every statue in Dublin. The is called "Statues in Dublin" not Nicknames of Statues in Dublin. Please stop reverting to an old version, if you must then try adding a nickname with a recent reliable reference. Snappy (talk) 17:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Murals
Is there a list of murals? Could murals be mentioned in this article? I ask this as, tragically in my opinion, the "Sweeney astray" mural, up the steps from the Aongus Óg Chariot of Life statue in the Irish Life Center has been demolished [1] [2] ClemMacGána (talk) 18:35, 29 January 2015 (UTC)