Talk:Armenian genocide

World War I

Just a heads up, I can't change this myself, because the article is protected, in the first paragraph (3rd line) the article states ″historic homeland in the territory constituting the present-day Republic of Turkey during and after World War.″, Obviously it should say World War I. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.24.102.221 (talk) 19:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Turkey has opened the Ottoman archives Armenia will not open their archives . The scientists do not accept the Armenian genocide No genocide

Thanks very much for the heads up! Diranakir (talk) 04:50, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

There is no one died because of malnutition, starvation in WW1,
There is no one died because of tifus, cholera, epidemic in WW1,
There was no trenches, no rifles, no guns, no mines, no traps, no irregular groups (a.k.a terrorists) in short there was no actual war!
It was all martians, they came out of nowhere, they invaded Balkans, Eurasia (Asia Minor), Middle East and killed 100,000,000 people! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.166.238.210 (talk) 14:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Translation of Halil Pasha quote in section "5.7 Ottoman Empire and Turkey"

I think this translation could be a lot better. The original Turkish text just flows when I read it; the English seems somewhat whacky in comparison and harder to understand. (I assure you I'm fluent in English.) Someone who's fluent enough in (19th-20th century) Turkish to catch all nuance in the original text, and also skilled in English prose so they can write a suitable English equivalent, might want to take a jab at it. On the meanwhile please correct the spelling mistake "piece" to "peace", and change the word "luxury" to "comfort" or "tranquility" or so.

For the record, here's my attempt at a mostly literal translation without entirely butchering English (but it might still read awkwardly): "The Armenian nation who I tried to eliminate to its last member for trying to erase my homeland from history [as prisoners of (OR) by surrendering to] the enemy in the most horrible and painful days of my homeland; the Armenian nation who I today want to bring to peace and comfort since they take shelter in the generosity of the Turkish nation... If you remain loyal to the Turkish homeland I will do every good deed I can. If you once again attempt to betray the Turkish and the Turkish homeland by getting involved with certain senseless Komitadjis I will order my armies who surround your whole country and leave not a single Armenian to breathe on this earth; pull yourself together."

Some notes:

I end the first (compound) sentence in ellipsis (instead of a period) because it indeed lacks a verb; he's rather calling out to the Armenian nation with those two compounded sentences which I separated with a semicolon (as opposed to a comma in the original).

The part in brackets is very ambiguous to me in the original text and could be translated to either phrase in English (the phrase "esir olarak" can mean both "as a prisoner" and "by surrendering"). It also has the second ambiguity (not resolved in English by choosing either phrase) that is who the subject of the clause is (is it the Armenians who surrender or are imprisoned, or the Ottomans?), so there is four possible interpretations in total: have Armenians once intentionally surrendered themselves to enemy forces to disadvantage the Ottomans? Were they already imprisoned but then helped the enemy forces? Or have they just generally contributed to the surrender of the Ottomans, which led to a risk of them getting erased from history? Or did they do something while the Ottomans were already (figuratively) imprisoned by enemy nations and under threat of this "erasure from history"? Someone who knows the context of the text might be able to tell.

In "betray the Turkish" I use the word "Turkish" as an implicit plural/group/nation/culture; this is most close to the original text which just uses "Türk" without pluralization; it could have used the plural "Türkler" if it wanted to speak of "the Turks". (I also considered just writing "betray the Turk", but I think "betray the Turkish" is more fitting.)

In the last sentence, the word "country" is not to be misinterpreted to mean that they have a government. I don't know if there's a better alternative to the word "country" here; I considered "land" but that doesn't carry the implication of a nation being bound to that land, whereas the original uses the word "memleket" which is a bit more like "homeland". I chose not to use "homeland" because that was previously used as a translation for "vatan". When I think about it, perhaps the only difference between "vatan" and "memleket" is that the former sounds a bit more glorified, though.

And lastly, the last part is better translated as "pull yourself together" and not "make up your mind" because the Turkish phrase that is originally used literally translates to "put your mind back in your head" and does not imply there being any decision to make; not even sarcastically.

Translation is frickin' difficult! 2003:51:4A04:D063:213:E8FF:FEED:36FB (talk) 21:36, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Your work on the translation is appreciated - but I think it signifies that this quotation cannot be used in Wikipedia unless there is an acceptable English translation of it that appears in a published source. Your version cannot be used because it is original research. Nor can the current version because it too appears to be original research - and it is also, as you have revealed, inaccurate. For these reasons I propose that the passage is deleted from this article and also from the Halil Pasha article. Are there objections? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 22:57, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Disagree with removing the Halil Pasha quote entirely. The translation is based off of a reliable source. We cannot render the translations for direct quotes by Wikipedia users as reliable. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

You claim "We cannot render the translations for direct quotes by Wikipedia users as reliable". Exactly! So you are actually supporting my deletion suggestion? The quote in the article is a translation by a Wikipedia user - it has no reference. Translations by Wikipedia users are OR, even setting aside the problem that translations by Wikipedia users cannot be guaranteed to be accurate, especially if they are translated from a long-dead language filled with obscure phrases and concepts like Ottoman Turkish. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

The quote doesn't even have a date against it! When was it written? How can it claim to be be "contemporaneous" without this important information. I think that it is weak content like this that needs to be removed if this article is to even get close to GA status. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 01:37, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

The original quote isn't really in "Ottoman Turkish", or if it is then Ottoman Turkish is closer to today's Turkish than I was aware. As a Turk born in the 90s I can understand the text just fine. I had to look up three words used in it: one ("ferd") I'd probably have known if I read a little more Turkish literature or even just if I didn't leave Turkey at age 16, the second I'm guessing is relatively obscure in modern Turkish ("âlicenaplık"), and the third is the term "komitacı" (komitadji) which seems to be a history-related term which I'd probably have known if I studied recent Turkish history better. 2003:51:4A35:4160:213:E8FF:FEED:36FB (talk) 20:21, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

I wonder, have you seen the Talat Paşa'nın Evrak-ı Metrukesi book by Murat Bardakçı. Has it got Ottoman Turkish original text, or has it been modernised. The article on the book is here Talat Pasha's Abandoned Documents but that location/name might change. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 20:14, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

This article isn't set on being a GA anyways. I don't mind using this translation [1]:

"The Armenian folk that I tried to kill to the last person, since they tried to enslave a nation to the enemy in the most terrible and painful days of my country, the Armenian folk that I am offering peace, comfort since they take refuge of the Turkish nation’s high mind… If you stick together with the Turkish homeland, I would do whatever I can for your country but if you obey some group of unconscientious Armenians who would betray the Turks and their homeland again, I will give an order to the armies that are surrounding your country to not leave any Armenians still breathing on the earth. Be more reasonable."

Étienne Dolet (talk) 02:55, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

OK, what I'm just going to do is delete it. If it is then put back I will raise the issue on one of the advice boards and I hope eventually get rid of it for good. This is because Halil Pasha's Memoirs have not been translated into English, there seems to be no published English translation (in a source we can use) of the original Ottoman Turkish quote, and we cannot have amateurish or ambiguous private translations in an article. Whatever the actual merit of the untranslated original (I think the original adds no value to the article, you think differently) we cannot ignore Wikipedia's rules on OR or verifiable sources or appropriate sources (I hope you were not seriously claiming as an appropriate source a propaganda website that I am certain has long been agreed as unusable on Wikipedia). Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 01:00, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Christian Genocide

Has anyone here considered -- or, agree with -- merging the Armenian Genocide page along with the Greek and Assyrian genocide pages. After all, they were not three separate events, but rather, three different national histories. Renowned genocide scholar Hannibal Travis and even the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) refer to the events as a genocide of the Ottoman Empire's Christian population - Armenian, Greek, and Assyrian.

No, because nothing you just said is backed up by any reliable sources, they were separate events and only the Armenian Genocide has any real evidence of actually happening. But either way, there was no campaign against killing Christians during this time, Christians may have died, but not for their religion.

Please remember to sign your posts! Everything can be said to be connected to everything else in some way, but encyclopedias divide things up into smaller and smaller units to stop things becoming unworkable! Yes, there is a connection between the Armenian Genocide and the Greek and Assyrian genocides, and yes a major part of that connection is that they were Christian and were killed because of that. But these are separate subjects as far as specialist articles go, and the main specialist articles have numerous fork or ancillary articles as well - so what you suggest cannot happen. Instead, the mutual connections could be revealed through content, through wikilinks, and through the topics sections at the bottom of articles. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:38, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I could not find in the article information related to a most important trial concerning the subject

In the article, I could not find any information or reference to a not-so-recent-now trial concerning the subject. The trial is shortly known as Perincek vs Switzerland trial; which took place in the European Court of Human Rights.

As a summary, in Switzerland, Dogu Perincek, leader of the Workers' Party (Turkey), publicly defined Armenian Genocide as an international and imperialist lie. He said what had happened was no genocide, but war. People from both opposite sides had lost their lives. He did this action to protest the law in Switzerland that defined denying Armenian Genocide as a crime. He was found guilty in the trials at the Federal Court of Switzerland. Perincek appealed to European Court of Human Rights, where he was found "had not committed an abuse of his rights within the meaning of Article 17 of the Convention." The verdict can be found on this link.

An excerpt from the verdict of the European Court of Human Rights, about genocides in general is also significant: "The Court also pointed out that it was not called upon to rule on the legal characterisation of the Armenian genocide. The existence of a “genocide”, which was a precisely defined legal concept, was not easy to prove. The Court doubted that there could be a general consensus as to events such as those at issue, given that historical research was by definition open to discussion and a matter of debate, without necessarily giving rise to final conclusions or to the assertion of objective and absolute truths."

The Wiki article on the trial is also insufficient on terms of technical information.

94.121.70.191 (talk) 08:11, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

No reference to the highly significant report of the first prime minister of Armenia in the article

In a report entitled "Dashnaktsutyun Has Nothing More to Do", which discusses but is not limited to the subject and was addressed to his political party, The Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagtzoutiun or Dashnaktsutyun), Armenia's first prime minister Hovhannes Katchaznouni defines the events as one would define a war.

He criticizes the aspect of the Armenian side, stating that "We overestimated the ability of the Armenian people, its political and military power, and overvalued the extent and significance of the services our people rendered to the Russians. And by overestimating our very humble worth and merit we were naturally exaggerating our hopes and expectations."

He also states that "The Turks knew what they were doing and have no reason to regret it today. It was the most definite technique to resolve the Armenian Question." These statements are consistent with defining the events as war which included bilateral slaughters, but not genocide.

As a result, it may be concluded that it is obvious that many people lost their lives from both opposed sides. It can be more on one side and less on the other, depending on their military and political powers.

But to define the events as genocide is not fair; and highly reduces the credibility of wikipedia.

94.121.70.191 (talk) 08:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Since the creator of the present topic seems to know so much about Katchaznouni's thinking, I'd like to ask him what he thinks Katchaznouni meant by "It" in the sentence, "It was the most definite technique to resolve the Armenian Question". Diranakir (talk) 23:47, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

That "it" may refer to any action that can take place in war; but it does not refer to "genocide". As I mentioned above, during this war, numerous upsetting events took place effecting both opposite sides; as it would be, and as it is, in any war. 94.121.66.31 (talk) 20:35, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

The origin of the word genocide.

94.121.66.31 (talk · contribs) Are you trying to be funny? The term "genocide" was invented in 1943 by Raphael Lemkin and therefore it was not used till then. Nevertheless, the systematic massacres and deportations of Armenians in 1915 fits perfectly into the definition of genocide. In fact, Lemkin used the Armenian Genocide as a reference and a primary example of this new word. You can watch the video I provided or just take a glance at "Raphael Lemkin's Dossier on the Armenian Genocide" (ISBN:0977715345) for more information.

So you really don't want to provide the definition of "it"? No worries, I can provide it for you. But out of curiosity, have you even read Khatchaznouni's report? You've picked out one sentence from the report and excluded all the ones referring to the mass extermination of the Armenians. Nice try buddy. Yet, even with such a bad translation by Mehmet Perinçek, a convicted criminal and a member of the ultra-nationalist Ergenekon organization, what Khatchaznouni said was clear:

The mass exiles, deportations, and massacres that took place during the summer and autumn of 1915 were fatal blows to the Armenian Cause. Half of historical Armenia - the same half where the fundamentals of our independence would be laid according to the traditions inherited by European diplomacy - that half was deprived of Armenians. In the Armenian provinces of Turkey there were no Armenians. The Turks knew what they were doing and have no reason to regret it today. It was the most definite technique to resolve the Armenian Question.

Khatchaznouni continues to describe the intentions of the Turkish government to destroy and exterminate his Armenian population in the very same report:

The proof is, however – and this is crucial – that the struggle began decades ago against which the Turkish government brought about the deportation or extermination of the Armenian people in Turkey and the desolation of Turkish Armenia.

This was the terrible fact.

Civilized humanity might very well be shaken with rage in the face of this horrifying crime. Statesmen might utter menacing words against criminal Turkey. “Blue”, “yellow”, “orange” books and papers might be published accusing them. Divine punishment against the criminals might be invoked in churches by clergymen of all denominations. The press of all countries might be filled with horrifying descriptions and details and the evidence of eye-witnesses...Let them say this or that, but the work was already done and words would not revive the corpses fallen in the Arabian deserts, restore the ruined hearths, repopulate the country now become desolate. The Turks knew what they ought to do and did it.

Khatchaznouni's report does not depict the Armenian Genocide as merely a war fought in between Armenians and Turksh. That's a huge mistake made by unprofessional Armenian Genocide denialists who are now embarrassed for even uttering such a claim. In fact, denialists don't even use this report anymore as an attempt of debunking the Armenian Genocide. They've been embarrassed way too many times. I suggest you don't try to continue or revive that mistake either. Simply because Khatchaznouni makes it clear that what happened to the Armenians in 1915 was a "horrifying crime" which consisted of "mass exiles, deportations, and massacres" which ultimately resulted with the Turkish government bringing about "the deportation or extermination of the Armenian people in Turkey." Étienne Dolet (talk) 23:22, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Claiming that he is trying to uphold Wikipedia's credibility, the initiator of the present topic is avoiding a legitimate discussion by ignoring the ordinary meaning of words and then hiding behind the results. "It was the most definite technique" does not equal "any action that can take place in war", or "numerous upsetting events". That is as clear as the nose on one's face. Diranakir (talk) 20:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for kind replies. I will be re-presenting my thoughts and opinions about the subjects that have been mentioned. But first, I have to inform you that I will expand this thread further later, as I do not have enough time for this right now. So, please keep in touch.

1 - My primary motivation to start this discussion is to point out that, a highly significant report of the first prime minister of Armenia is not -and should be- referred in the article, if it is intended to make the article comprehensive. About the report, I also would be happy to hear your opinions about why the report "Dashnaktsutyun Has Nothing More to Do", by the first prime minister of Armenia, had been removed from libraries and banned in Armenia.

2 - As for the "anachronism" claim about the term genocide; I do not think I have made any imply that the term genocide had already been coined in 1915 (to be more clear: in my initial message by saying ""but it does not refer to "genocide"", I mean it does not refer to "genocide" (one should not take he message that it means genocide)); which means I am not trying to be funny.

3 - I hope you are a little bit outdated in the Ergenekon; otherwise what you stated would be a pure intentional denigration. The Ergenekon trial -after over 6 years - is proven to be a coup against people who are -after all these years they were sentenced- declared as not guilty, including Mehmet Perincek. All so-called convicted persons are acquitted, by the verdict of the Constitutional Court (highest court) of Turkey. You can check out the list of illegality examples in Ergenekon trials. As a matter of fact, the famous prosecutor of the trial, Zekeriya Oz, and judges, president of the court Hasan Hüseyin Özese, and member judges Sedat Sami Haşıloğlu and Hüsnü Çalmuk are now being prosecuted; for the faults in the Ergenekon trials. They are believed to be connected to the Fethullah Gülen (so called religious) order.

4 - I refuse the term "denialist", since one can only deny a truth. One can not deny the ambiguous outcomes of a controversial discussion, however these can be agreed or disagreed.

5 - There are many former "denialists" of Armenian origin, but one of the last of them was Hrant Dink, an iconic person of the Armenian community in Turkey, the editor of the Agos magazine, who was murdered in 2007. He interpreted the 1915 events with courage, Hrant Dink. Dink claimed that the Kurds were now falling in for the traps that the Armenians fell in the past. He says in his last speech in Malatya Business Peoples Association: "English, Russian, German, and French are playing the same game again in this land. In the past, the Armenian people trusted them, thought they would rescue them from the cruelity of the Ottoman. But they were wrong, because they finished their business and they left. And they left brothers of this land as enemies". He claimed that the US is now playing the same game, and this time Kurds are falling for it. He said "That is America. Comes, minds its own business, and when he is done, leaves. And then people here, scuffle within themselves". Before you accuse the imaginary Ergenekon organisation, let me add that the chief of police in Trabzon, Ramazan Akyürek, who condoned the murder to happen, had officially been filed as being a member of the Fethullah Gülen so-called religious order.

6 - Raphael Lemkin may be an innovative person, and like any person, he may be wrong, or deceived, or ignorant. If he chose 1915 events as an example, I believe that was his mistake. Please check the European Council of Human Rights report mentioned in the above topic The controversy about the 1915 events may only be ended by an objective, unbiased and thorough study by a council of scientists, not by talented individuals. I believe one day, these studies will be made and the fact that the events were "carnage made by both sides and effecting both sides", but not an "unilateral genocide", will be revealed.

7 - Being ignorant is not as difficult as knowing. But pretending not to know is even harder. I hope our children will meet, and be "brothers" as Dink would say, in a world where blood group is more important than ethnical identities.

Best regards, 94.121.64.98 (talk) 12:27, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

References

1.) 94.121.66.31 (talk · contribs) Okay, this is becoming a comedy. Banned in Armenia? Who ever told you that? I know the Turkish lobby and Armenian Genocide deniers have been repeating that garbage for quite some time now. But it's another embarrassing claim. Kachaznouni's Dashnaktsutyun Has Nothing More to Do is available in the National Library Armenia in several languages. The book has been republished several times in Armenia and is widely read. Have you even bothered looking for the book at the library catalog of the National Library of Armenia? If not, here's the link [2]. I've spotted at least a dozen copies of the book available in almost all branches of the National Library located throughout Armenia. So please, do yourself a favor and research this a little more before coming back here.

2.) How do you expect someone to use a certain word that hasn't even been invented yet? Regardless of what you may think, Kachaznouni stated that the "Turkish government brought about the deportation or extermination of the Armenian people in Turkey and the desolation of Turkish Armenia." The extermination of a people due to their race (in this case Armenian) is by definition a genocide.

3.) I do follow the news. We can't just abruptly consider this guys work to be reliable just because he was acquitted from trial in Turkey. How reliable is Turkey's justice system anyways? The very fact that they had arrested this guy under suspicion for plotting an overthrow of an elected government to reinstate an ultra-nationalist order leaves me to believe that his research is politically motivated and therefore not reliable. Perinçek studied in Russia for 1.5 years and was assigned by the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs to conduct research. He was the mouthpiece of the Turkish government during those years and his research was politically motivated. Upon returning to his country, he spent two years in prison in his own country and was sentenced an additional six years in the summary judgement of the trial. He was fired from his academic duties at the University of Istanbul and had his doctoral thesis was revoked. His attempt at establishing an "academic" career turned out to be a disaster. Because of this, we as Wikipedia users cannot incorporate such rubbish into the project.

4.) When it comes to the Armenian Genocide, Turkey has lost the battle of truth. Your opinion is of a minority. Denialists, such as yourself, are slowly disappearing off the face of this earth. Although you have a right to your own opinion, your personal opinion shouldn't be a guiding force to edits on such articles as this. Introducing "two-sides" of the story goes against the general consensus of Wikipedia and the arbitrary regulations under WP:ARBAA2. The side that presents the genocide as fact has been the one adopted by the Wikipedia community through a consensus, while the other side, a minority position pushed by the Government of Turkey, has not. If you continue to push such a minority position in articles related to the Armenian Genocide, you may face sanctions under WP:AE. Denialist literature, whether it be about the Holocaust or the Armenian Genocide, is always held separate from Armenian Genocide/Holocaust related articles. In fact, denialist sources and references are considered unreliable and thus unacceptable in terms of Wikipedia WP:RS requirements. Denialist sources and information can all go into the Denial of Armenian Genocide article but never into Armenian Genocide/Holocaust related articles. Arbcom takes the position seriously, see Admin Sandstein's remark here and here. The user was formally warned for his constant assertion of denialist information and sources and as of this point may be banned if he/she continues.

5.) The statement by Hrant Dink that you've provided doesn't make any sort of denialist claim. Hrant Dink never denied the Armenian Genocide. He just never dared to speak about it in public in Turkey. Considering that there were three court sentences against him and death threats being sent to him on a daily basis, that wouldn't be such a good idea. However, he was perfectly comfortable about using the word genocide when speaking in Armenian. For example, in this interview (1:34-2:10), Hrant Dink describes the moral impetus of Turks denying the Armenian Genocide. In this interview, Dink frequently uses the word genocide and scolds the Turkish academic community for teaching young children that Armenians killed Turks and that they deny genocide. Unfortunately, these are the only two interviews I found in Armenian but with English subtitles. There are many other interviews and speeches, such as this one, where he uses the word genocide frequently and expresses his admiration for genocide scholars like Vahakn Dadrian and Yves Tenon.

6.) Arguments of free speech and reports such as the one by the European Council of Human Rights do not disprove the Armenian Genocide. That's an entirely different topic of discussion. But in regards to Lemkin, you are entitled to your own opinion. However, Lemkin was far from wrong, deceived, or ignorant. He was a well-learned scholar who spent a whole lifetime researching the Armenian Genocide and has been a pioneer in that field of study ever since. His dossiers concerning the Armenian Genocide were a big breakthrough not only in the studies of the Armenian Genocide, but of all genocides. They've been recently republished by Michael Bayzler, a scholar who compiled an outstanding piece of work.

7.) I'm not "pretending" to know anything here. What I know or what you don't know won't change the fact that what happened in 1915 was a genocide.

This shall be my last response to you because it digresses from topics of discussion concerning the article itself. Étienne Dolet (talk) 03:56, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2014

Under the "Representation in Culture" heading, please add "In December 2014, an original work entitled Nameless, written by Devon Jackson, was produced by The Imaginary Theatre Company at Queen's University. The play explores the stories of four young women during the brutal massacre of the Armenian people in the early twentieth century."

Source: https://www.facebook.com/titcnameless?fref=ts AmandaLB12 (talk) 06:06, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Social networking sites, such as Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, etc. are not considered reliable sources by Wikipedia. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 19:42, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

New movie is going to be released called 1915 The Movie

1915 The Movie, a psychological thriller commemorating the Armenian Genocide centennial, is a Hollywood production expected to release on April 24th, 2015. According to talks it is going to be a perfect movie.

Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2014

There is new movie to be released on 24 of April 2014 about Armenian genocide. Movie called 1915. The request is regarding adding this sentence " 1915 The Movie, a psychological thriller commemorating the Armenian Genocide centennial, is a Hollywood production expected to release on April 24th, 2015." under this category "Representation in culture" after "The first film about the Armenian Genocide appeared in 1919, a Hollywood production titled Ravished Armenia. It resonated with acclaimed director Atom Egoyan, influencing his 2002 Ararat. There are also references in Elia Kazan's America, America and Henri Verneuil's Mayrig."

Also I would like to add the official website of the movie in External links : Here is it:

• Official Website is dedicated to the centennial of the Armenian Genocide and is planned to be released on April 24, 2015.

source is wiki page of 1915 The Movie

Sona.bulgadaryan (talk) 10:24, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Not done for now: Prefer to wait on adding this until it is released and we see that it is notable Cannolis (talk) 14:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2015

70 years later [Don Askarian]], in 1988, KOMITAS was made. Don Askarian on his Film: "Guided by pain, l extend my hand and it thrusts against them. The souls of 2 million murdered circle over your and my head, over Ararat... Tobacco, from which the "Camel" cigarette has been made, that l am just lighting, reflecting on written phrases, grow out of the cracked skull of my grandfather, who perished in Erzurum. On October 10,1984, l sat in the kitchen of our apartment in Berlin, opposite me, on the electrical fuse box, stood the angel and looked at me through the leaves of a philodendron plant, l raised my head and it was no longer there. Then they both appeared." , Boris Raskin (talk) 21:24, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 16:14, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

American Professor McCarthy : " Armenian genocide " British propaganda

Bristih propaganda,[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.110.143.199 (talk) 20:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)