Go away. [[User talk:Chillum|<b style="color:Blue">Chillum</b>]] 20:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Go away. [[User talk:Chillum|<b style="color:Blue">Chillum</b>]] 20:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
:Indeed I will, until you transgress once again, then I will come back to make sure everyone knows how you operate. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 20:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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Chillum, After another posting (again using your name) on Cassianto's talk page, I've taken it to ANI. This is just a courtesy note to let you know you are mentioned in that thread, but are in no way blamed. – SchroCat (talk) 11:07, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for your ongoing care of Wikipedia. Perhaps I should post a notice that says that "racist arseholes will be treated as racist arseholes"? Nice that you just popped by ANI to "sanction" me, but did nothing at all about the racist IPs. It seems this odd double-standard behaviour is now sadly typical of you. By "setting an example" do you mean publishing the contents of private emails without permission? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please grow up. You know very well than poor behaviour does not require name calling to deal with. Engaging in name calling because the other person was behaving poorly is not an excuse I would accept from a child, much less an admin. I was not sanctioning you, I was saying you were setting a poor example.
Do you really want to start on that whole e-mail thing again? I saw a diff where you posted information from an e-mail and unlike my case it was not information the person asked you to reveal. Please drop the stick and try to act like an adult when using your admin account. This is getting silly. Chillum19:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Your ANI post passively advocated the racist abuse on my talk page and you strongly advocate releasing private email details. You seem to be the one without control of your behaviour, ie the child here. Please take a long hard look at yourself and determine whether you are suitable for this project. P.s. What do you mean by "using your admin account"? Very odd..... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The concept that me criticizing you for engaging in childish name calling is tantamount to defending the person you were insulting is a false dichotomy and a straw man argument. You behaving poorly has nothing to do with the behaviour of the other user and you should know that. You also misrepresent me again by saying I advocate releasing private email details. You know very well that the locus of our disagreement is not so simple and I think you are presenting this oversimplified position because it is easier to defend.
You really need to sit down and think about what you are doing. You just accused me of advocating racism because I criticized you for name calling. Think about what you said and what you are basing that off of. That is an absurd and insulting accusation and I would like you retract it.
You seem to be viewing this as some sort of adversarial situation where if I speak against you then I must be supporting your enemy, well this is not a battleground we are each judged based on our own behaviour. Nobody disputes the IP was acting poorly, this does not give you special license. Chillum19:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, leading by example? That classic "email me, but I'll post it onto Wikipedia without permission" kind of leading by example? I'm sitting down. You suddenly turned up at ANI to criticise me, gave no heed to the racist abuse, did nothing about the abusive IP and sat back. It was telling that the ANI post was hastily closed with just you, you, on your own, making a point. Just after we'd had a disagreement. How curious that you'd chase me there? Think about it. You're being absurd, and insulting and I would like you to accept that hounding me is entirely inappropriate. If you really cared, you would have reacted to the racial abuse the IP gave me, rather than the simple response I gave. I won't be interacting with you again, unless you make further indiscretions (e.g. exposing personal information), you're welcome to post on my talk page, but don't expect a response. If you want to carry the mop, don't misrepresent what you do when asked for help, don't publish private information. Civility is subjective, publishing private email content is objective. You did that, without permission. Fail. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I did not suddenly show up on ANI, you will see I am very active there. How exactly is the close "telling"? I was not involved in the close.
The fact that you interpret the situation as me following you to ANI when I regularly post there and that you found the closure somehow "telling" when I had nothing to do with that tells me that you are jumping at shadows. You are connecting dots that are simply not there.
Nobody was defending the IP and it was perfectly clear to all that the IP was in the wrong, I am not somehow condoning their behaviour because I did not call them an arsehole. Oh and please stop being so hypocritical, I was told to reveal the information I revealed. Were you? Chillum20:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, you stop being so hypocritical. The contents of the email was highly offensive and was not delivered in good faith. Your behaviour is and has been shameful, you know that, the dots are there, you're joining them up. Why were you the only person to show up at the ANI report to passively defend the racist IP? I never asked you to call them anything, you're making your own strawman arguments. But at least this is all good detail to let others see you for what you are, it speaks for itself. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:32, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It is clear to me that you are insisting on arguing with a fictional figure other than me. A straw man of your own devising. You can accuse me of defending racism all day long but anyone who knows me would know that you are wrong factually and morally. I was talking about your behaviour and your classic attempts to blame your behaviour on that of another users is disappointing from an administrator.
If you insist upon reading "I think that an admin can refrain from name calling regardless of the accuracy of it" as "I think it was okay what they did" then I think you need to get a dictionary.
Accusing me of defending racism is not only wrong and insulting it also unreasonable behaviour from any editor. Chillum20:39, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Chillum, that is not a response to specific a enquiry, such as your's was to me. You "advised" me in public, contrary to my intentions to keep it private. We all knew Dreadstar was a low-life, and the confirmation from TRM that he was insulting other editors proves it. CassiantoTalk20:37, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If I had done what you asked me to do then the same information would have been revealed. Don't pretend it was private when doing what you asked would have been public. Chillum20:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You know as well as I do that you were blocked at the time and could not even edit your own talk page. If you really want to dispute this matter then we will have to refer to the actual text of the e-mail. If you want to handle this in private we can send it to arb-com, otherwise please drop the matter. Chillum20:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's entirely unreasonable that you publicised private material. It's entirely unreasonable that you castigated me while overlooking the overt racist attack. Look more closely in the mirror Chillum. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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