User talk:Sir Sputnik

Invitation

Transfer Market

Sorry about the transfer market deal. I had seen you're earlier edit about it but forgot all about it. Thanks for telling me about how the sites content is mostly user-generated and also patrolling my articles. Da Drewster (talk) 04:09, 26 April 2015 (UTC)Da Drewster

Guilherme Arana

Okay, then I'll switch the word to poor. It's not fake information, and I'm the only one providing/creating decent pages (and fixing it as well) when it comes to Brazilian football. I'm tired, mate. Tired of dealing with these arrogant Brazilian users (even though I'm Brazilian too) who don't help and still think they're correct. I'm sorry, I'll try to control it in the next edits.

Cheers, MYS77 ^✉ 23:39, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced BLP

okay well I use to not put it up when there ws a EL but as of late I've seen so many other articles getting deleted even when they have EL's (even if its to the IMDB) so I though that you would put that up then if that was the case. Wgolf (talk) 00:46, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: This is a common enough issue for it to be explicitly addressed in the lede of WP:BLPPROD. A common source of confusion in application is the different treatment of presence of sources for placement of the tag, versus removal of the tag. The requirements can be summed up as: Only add a BLPPROD if there are no sources in any form that name the subject, but once (properly) placed, it can only be removed if a reliable source is added. (Emphasis original). I hope that clears things up. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:49, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Well one thing that did make me think that it could happen was actually a few weeks ago when I noticed this guy who I tagged as unsourced who had a notability for something (I can't remember what) and had plenty of EL's was deleted as a unsourced BLP (I was surprised it happened as well) Wgolf (talk) 00:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Like I said, this is a fairly common issue, so from time to time, that happens unfortunately. You may want to request that the article in question be undeleted. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:16, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Well you might want to check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:BLP_articles_proposed_for_deletion_by_days_left then (though if the only refs are to Twiter or Facebook I still put a blp prod up) Wgolf (talk) 01:26, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

BTW Linked in is not a reliable source and does not count as one since its basically like Facebook/Twitter. Wgolf (talk) 03:46, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

A South African footballer who I can't find any info for that I put a BLP prod up for just now

Njabulo Zungu only link is a dead link-so I googled him and no luck, getting mostly Facebook and linked in pages. (as well as a singer with this name) Wgolf (talk) 16:11, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Sockpuppet investigation

ByTheTime (talk) 22:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Hi, Good day. Someone open an investigation about my account and I don't know why? can you give an explanation about that please. Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

@ByTheTime: For more information on what sockpuppetry is and on the investigation process, read WP:SOCK and WP:SPI. For evidence as to why I think you're account is a sockpuppet read Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alexx04. Sir Sputnik

(talk) 23:16, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@Sir Sputnik: Thanks for your time I'll read them, and anew thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.ByTheTime (talk) 03:59, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Amir Hadžiahmetović, Kerim Memija, Riad Bajić, Samir Radovac, Marko Mihojević, Besim Šerbečić

I want to contest the deletion of these person's pages. They are all professional players with professional contracts playing in the BH Telecom Premier League of Bosnia and Herzegovina which is a professional league that is part of UEFA and participates in Champions League and Europa League qualifying Bosnalopta (talk) 00:07, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The Bosnian League is not a fully professional league, as defined by WP:FPL. Therefore, these players all fail WP:NFOOTY, and no evidence they pass WP:GNG either. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:09, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

lathams

Hello. To be honest, it's been a long time and I can't remember much in the way of detail about the latham style, but it doesn't strike me as typical of what I can remember. Hope it isn't him, he was a total pain in the arse. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:34, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

So, you discussed and decided...

...that this particular professional league (PL BiH) isn't professional after all ?--Santasa99 (talk) 00:53, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Multiple article deletion

Hi, I just realised that the article that I created yesterday: Samir Radovac, Mićo Kuzmanović and Nemanja Anđušić, do seem fails WP:GNG. If there are ways to delete ASAP, please do so. Thanks! MbahGondrong (talk) 06:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

@MbahGondrong: Radovac was G4 eligible so that article's gone already. For the rest of them, you can tag them for speedy deletion per WP:G7 as the author, if you want to get rid of them more quickly. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Transfers

Hey. Is it okay to update articles like for example Erich Berko. He's playing for VfB Stuttgart II, and he transfers to Stuttgart Kickers on 1 July. The 3. Liga who VfB Stuttgart II plays in, is finished, so I can update how many league games he has played for the club. Is it then okay to write he plays for Stuttgart Kickers, or am I supposed to wait until 1 July. I mean, we will get very busy if we dont begin now with updating transfers.

Koto Abe Deletion?

I have just noticed you have tagged Koto Abe's page for deletion. Since Koto Abe is a back up goalie in a fully professional league and has played in a youth world cup tournament does that still make it available for deletion. If so go on and delete it I support it. Da Drewster (talk) 05:35, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@Da Drewster: The relevant notability guideline here is WP:NFOOTBALL, which requires footballer to have actually played in a fully professional league. As such, reserve goalkeepers tend not to qualify unless they have received significant coverage, which does not appear to be the case here. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:38, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Alright then thanks for informing me. If you can delete it immediately please do so. Da Drewster (talk) 05:40, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@Da Drewster: I cannot. However, as the author, you can tag the article for speedy deletion. See WP:G7 for more details. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:43, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Alright then i'll look in to it. Da Drewster (talk) 05:44, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Variations on a theme of Alex Latham

So he is, and this time clearly recognisable as such even without the typical username. I've commented at the SPI. Thanks for letting me know. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

delete?

What are the these articles? All based on the Iranian League sources Are written. What's wrong in Navid Sabouri? or for example Farshad Pourkhanmohammad, Such as these are 1 or 2. These are quotas youths Clubs in Iran Pro League.--Samək^Talk 07:29, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

@Samak: In order to have an article on Wikipedia, a subject must meet certain inclusion criteria; most importantly the subject must be notable. For footballers, there are two guidelines to determining notability: the general notability guideline, which says that any subject that has received significant coverage in reliable sources is notable, and the football-specific notability guideline, which says that any footballer who has played for his country's national team or in a fully-pro league is notable. Significant coverage in the context of football excludes routine sports coverage such as the player profiles listed in these articles, as well as match reports, transfer announcements and speculation, squad lists etc., and so the general notability guideline does not apply. Since none of them have made their debut the Iran Pro League the specific guideline doesn't apply either. Additionally, the guideline also explicitly excludes youth football as a source of notability. Finally, in the case of Navid Savouri specifically, the article was not substantially different than the one deleted following this discussion, meaning the article was eligible for speedy deletion. I hope that clears things up. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Reply regarding deleting Vlar dragonmir

lar dragonmir is a professional player who played 2 games in a pro league, he is currently registered with a uefa cl club, Arsenal and is a well known player after his transfer. There is no reason to delete his page as many people wants to know more of this young player who is eligible for a football page Andyangys (talk) 17:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

@Andyangys: In order to have an article on Wikipedia, a subject must meet certain criteria called notability. For footballers, WP:NFOOTBALL the relevant guideline says that players who have played for their country's national team or in one of the fully pro leagues listed here are notable. Liga II is not confirmed as fully pro, so playing in it does not satisfy this guideline. Played in this context means appeared in an actual match, so until he makes his debut for Arsenal his contract for that club is also insufficient. Also please stop removing the afd template. Doing so will not stop the deletion discussion. It is, however, considered disruptive and if you continue to do so you are liable to get yourself blocked. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

reply=

it is not a fully pro league but vlad was a professional playing in it, pls do not be a busybody and know your facts before you start making comments. there are many other asian footballer page which you can find to delete. Vlad will make his debut likely in a few weeks when they start their pre season friendly. I don't see why this page canno be kept till then. plus, he is a player who is registered with a club in a champions league.