User talk:Qed237

2015 FIFA Women's World Cup at 23 June 2015

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you! User:Boyconga278 (talk) 00:02, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

@Boyconga278: Could you explain a couple of things for me? Why did I deserve a level 3 (of 4) for a single revert of you, do you know how it works? Ever heard of WP:DONTTEMPLATETHEREGULARS? How can you add positions in tournament ranking when thoe positions has not been set and may change? Seriously if you dont know how things work, stop putting a threat on me. This just made me laugh, you have some explaining to do. Qed237 (talk) 11:33, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

To summarize I made a list of my concerns regarding this warning (that I dont take seriously) and your edit:

• Why do you change to small text in infobox without explanation? We should not make small if we dont have to as readers may find it more difficult to read.
• Why did you add "Div col" when there was only two players on 5 goals? It is not that long so we need columns for that, wait until it is three or more players.
• The big/small D in "Div" is nothing to argue about, both is fine so I see not why you needed to change that
• Why did you add Nwft-template? At Template:Nwft/doc it clearly states it should not be used without substitution (subst). It would be best to use wikilinks if you want links. (The template code needs some work to perfect the subst).
• How could you add team positions when they are not known? Please look at User:Qed237/sandbox#2015 FIFA Women's World Cup where I keep track of the teams and their positions. You just need a quick look to see that Colombia may finish 14th (if they lose with 5 goals) and not South Korea like you added. And Brazil in 11th? They will be 9th or 10th depending on the result of Japan. I can not see what you were thinking there? Someone else alsop removed the teams after you adding them a second time.
• WP:ASG has no meaning to you? How could you say my edit was vandalism, perhaps you should read WP:VANDALISM to see what that actually is.
• How did you decide it was worth a level3? A high level of vandalism given when editors are notorius vandals and keeps on vandalising?
• Ever heard of WP:DONTTEMPLATETHEREGULARS? I am a major editor and if you dont understand my edit, talk to me instead of making a fool out of yourself given me the warning above.

@Boyconga278: Some answers to these questions would be lovely. Qed237 (talk) 12:43, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

@Boyconga278: Why give a level 3 warning when you only reverted Qed237 once, you only give a level 3 warning if you have already given a level 1 and level 2 warning before that, I don't know why you have given a level 3 warning straight away, also as Qed has said you shouldn't Template regular editors a short friendly message is preferred for frequent editors. Thank You TeaLover1996 (talk) 16:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Thank you for info on when to warn, but this is really not your place to come and play authority. It is between me and him and I have already started talking to him and he should not be questioned again without having a chance to reply to me. Qed237 (talk) 16:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Yawn, and also, Level 3 templates are for bad faith. He didn't do bad faith, didn't he? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 06:05, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

For god's sake, his edits were not vandalism, really? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 06:07, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

@Boyconga278: Not even trying to reply and explain why really shows how much "in to the blue" you were. Dont you have any response? I will keep asking. Qed237 (talk) 09:56, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

WP:SOCKING

How can an editor tell if an account is a sock–puppet?, like how would two or more accounts be connected? TeaLover1996 (talk) 07:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I am not that experienced in that process and I dont think you need to care about that right now, as we said several times: "focus on editing not editors". The best answer I can give is that sometimes it is very obvious with the names and behaviour and sometimes it is done via a WP:SPI. Qed237 (talk) 10:05, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Forgot to ping, sorry. Qed237 (talk) 10:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Oldstone James

Please take a look at the user's behaviour on Jackson Martínez. SLBedit (talk) 15:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@SLBedit: I can not say that the edits from User:Oldstone James are very good when he re-adds peacock terms and insists on putting national years in the opening paragraph, but the main question here is if the transfer can be confirmed as a done deal if the selling club has announced it but not the buying club. This is a situation that does not happen very often and is a bit problematic. In my mind it is a 50-50 call because possibly the clubs hs agreed about the 35 million but he may not have passed medical or agreed on personal contract. This is a case that may be taken to WT:FOOTY before it gets out of hand and both of you get blocked for edit warring. Qed237 (talk) 16:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Oldstone James doesn't mind being banned. SLBedit (talk) 16:20, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

hello

can you please provide your opinion on this matter please ? you are like me neither a liverpool or man united fan so your opinion should be neutral thank you :) Adnan (talk) 17:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@Adnan n2: That is a fairly long discussion and I have also seen something about it at WT:FOOTY if I remember correctly. I am neutral between those two clubs so I could probably take a look later but it is too much to "dig in to" at the moment. What I can say is that we should report honours and not decide on our own what is major and what is minor. Qed237 (talk) 18:29, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I it ok my friend I understand, just when you have free time please provide your opinion on this matter, I 100% agree with you about not decide but one of the editors found english papers articles mentioning minor and major trophies and he used it as a reference and won't let it go as we only report honor as you said and 100% agree with , so if you ever had a free time , provide what you think there . thank you :) Adnan (talk) 18:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

To add Qed I am a Manchester United fan and a Middlesbrough fan, does that mean I shouldn't be editing articles related to the clubs? TeaLover1996 (talk) 19:11, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: No thats fine as long as you can stay neutral and follow sources. If you start writing "great game", "owned the opponents", "The greatest player in history scored the first goal.." and such words then it is a problem, but not if you stay neutral. For example some editors have a habit of saying "Newcastle thrashed Barnsley with 4–0" when thrashed can be POV (according to who was they "thrashed") when "Newcastle defeated Barnsley with 4–0" is more neutral. Qed237 (talk) 19:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Apology

Sorry 'bout the revert on 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup Final, your edit occurred after I viewed the page and prior to my revert of the ip. And thanks for reverting the ip. Vsmith (talk) 19:27, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@Vsmith: No problem, I know you were acting in good faith and everyone makes mistakes. Have a nice day! Qed237 (talk) 19:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thanks again. Goodnight TeaLover1996 (talk) 22:55, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: I appreciate the barnstars but 3 stars in one month from the same user is more than enough. Those should be a bit rare. Qed237 (talk) 23:22, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

De Gea

Something strange has happened at the article David De Gea can you help? TeaLover1996 (talk) 07:12, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't matter now. All has been sorted. thanks TeaLover1996 (talk) 08:42, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

WP:Don't use Disclaimers

What does it mean when editors shouldn't use disclaimers? TeaLover1996 (talk) 13:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: I can not find that guideline so dont know what that means. Qed237 (talk) 13:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

This is the guidline here TeaLover1996 (talk) 13:49, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Not my best area. Try reading Wikipedia:No disclaimers in articles and Wikipedia:Content disclaimer and see if it gets any clearer. If not, feel free to ask again. Qed237 (talk) 13:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Disputes

Should an admin provide full protection to an article when there is a content dispute between 2 or more editors? TeaLover1996 (talk) 15:24, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: It depends on the situation, if there are only two editors (and they refuse to discuss) the alternative could be to block both (if they are edit warring) so that others still can edit the article. Qed237 (talk) 15:30, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Admins and Rights

Is becoming an admin and gaining rights to different tools, a bit like a job, people have to work their way up through the ranks rather that get things straight way, they need to work for them? TeaLover1996 (talk) 16:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Boy, you ask a lot of questions! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:55, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: (edit conflict) Focus on editing. Qed237 (talk) 16:56, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry

Hi, apologies for my edit, I thought that with you giving me guidance and mentoring me, as you said in a previous discussion on my talk page, I thought you might consider adopting me, I wasn't trolling you, I was just asking. Hope we are cool. Cheers! TeaLover1996 (talk) 17:20, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

He might have written that because you've made 341 edits to his talk page. You've only made 215 edits to your own talk page so you are spending a lot of your time on this talk page, asking questions. But Qed237 is a very patient editor. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:22, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: I have told you way too many times to start focusing on your own editing and talking about personal life is trolling. If I were someone else you might even have been blocked indefinately as all questions are getting disruptive (I am having a hard time doing my work, having to read talkpage all the time). Questions related to editing is fine (read guidelines first), but drop the rest and start editing pages instead of just talking. Qed237 (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Arsenal

Man after signing Petr Čech ,I was reading Arsenal definitely need to sell one of their goalies , I know rumors say David Ospina is going to be sold , He really had a good Copa America and seems a better choice than Wojciech Szczęsny for me what do you think ?Adnan (talk) 17:34, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@Adnan n2: Tough choice, I trust Wenger. It all depends on what offers we get. Anyway, I must ask you to consider that talkpages are not a forum, and although I like to discuss Arsenal it is better to focus on editing and keep talkpage clear for edit-related questions. Qed237 (talk) 17:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

You are right sorry :) Adnan (talk) 17:56, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@Adnan n2: No problem, it is just that this is always the period when I have the most work. Today 48 matches in Europa League along others. Qed237 (talk) 18:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Do you need any help with it? let me know how I can help with this article please :) Adnan (talk) 18:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@Adnan n2: At the moment, no but thanks for asking. I have had way to many edit conflicts in the past when a lot of users try update one match each. I just update scores when matches finished and then follow with scorers when I have the time. Qed237 (talk) 18:13, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Copy

I've seen copy–editing mention in articles, but what is it? TeaLover1996 (talk) 18:48, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Copy editing (or ce) is basically fixing typo's re-wording sentences and minor fixes. Qed237 (talk) 19:16, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

2015–16 Valencia CF season

I can't figure out for the life of me why every time I try to access this page it redirects me to the Valencia CF main page. Do you have any idea? Italia2006 (talk) 19:01, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Italia2006: It may be because the page doesn't exist, just a guess but I could be wrong, Qed knows more about it than me. Thanks and happy editing TeaLover1996 (talk) 19:14, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

If it doesn't exist the title of this section should be red rather than blue. Italia2006 (talk) 19:15, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@Italia2006: The season article is a redirect to the main article. Sometimes this is done to avoid redlinks, when article should not be created. This way redlinks was avoided in Champions League articles, previous season league table and probably more pages. If you click on the link below the article title on top of the page (after trying to click on the season article) you should be able to reach the redirect if needed. Any more questions just ask and I will try and explain better. Qed237 (talk) 19:19, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Dictionary

Although Wikipedia isn't a dictionary, definitions of words are given in articles aren't they? TeaLover1996 (talk) 14:21, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Read some articles and you will see. Qed237 (talk) 14:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Qed237. You have new messages at Sammanhumagain's talk page.
Message added 14:32, 4 July 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Reply??? Sammanhumagain^t@lk 14:32, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

I am not able to be on wikipedia every second. Some patience please. Qed237 (talk) 15:02, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

2015–16 Manchester United F.C. season

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 2015–16 Manchester United F.C. season. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. GiantSnowman 15:14, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Message recieved. I realised it one revert to late and has attempted to open this discussion since, after the other editor failed to do it despite being told to do so. Qed237 (talk) 15:22, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Football

Good Luck with edits on football related articles, many of us editors will be very busy once the season starts! TeaLover1996 (talk) 22:02, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Reverts

If an edit has been reverted, it doesn't mean an editor has done something wrong does it? TeaLover1996 (talk) 18:19, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: It doesn't have to, but that is often the case. Good faith edits are often solved better than with reverts. Qed237 (talk) 20:03, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

2015 FIFA Women's World Cup Final

Could you explain this revert? I'm failing to understand why you would undo an official sourced addition that won't change come the final whistle. From my reading of the situation, I don't think that is what the prior consensus was intended to be used for. Fuebaey (talk) 00:27, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@Fuebaey: The discussions and consensus is for all updates during a match. One reason is that the match may be interupted/abandoned in which case no stats are valid. Qed237 (talk) 00:37, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Although I understand your reasoning, I still think it was a bit redundant given the improbability. I would also appreciate it if you could remove the edit template now that the match is over, as to not confuse other editors like below. Fuebaey (talk) 01:17, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

How improbable it might be, It could still happen. The edit template has an expiry time set so it should be removed automatically some time after the match. Qed237 (talk) 11:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

2015 Fifa Women's World Cup Top Goal Scorers

There is an alert at the top of the page stating that this is a current tournament therefore information may not be reliable or may be unreliable so how does me updating the page to reflect the current top goal scorers constitute vandalism? Since when is updating the page of a current tournament disallowed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnMercedes (talk • contribs) 00:40, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@JohnMercedes: No live updates are allowed and there is a big editnotice telling you to not live update when you have the editwindow open. After the final is played a lot of editors edit and it is then there can be some rapid errors. Qed237 (talk) 00:44, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Jackson Martinez 2

Madrid — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldstone James (talk • contribs)

@Oldstone James: Thanks for the information. Qed237 (talk) 11:23, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for yesterday!!!

Hi, I am sorry for involving in a revert war yesterday but that was not my intention. Tell me one thing I don't understand why after reverting a vandalism via rollback, why is the page added in watchlist witout your permission? Cheers!!! NextGenSam619^t@lk 15:11, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@NextGenSam619: That is a function in twinkle and how it works, it assumes that you want to watch the page for more vandalism. I can agree it is annoying sometimes as my wathlist is growing big, very fast. Qed237 (talk) 15:14, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

I created 2015–16 Beşiktaş J.K. season this morning (in my country) but I have not received the message regarding the page being patrolled. Could you check it? NextGenSam619^t@lk 15:25, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@NextGenSam619: It look slike you can change that at Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences (if you use twinkle). Qed237 (talk) 15:26, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

I went into that page but nothing went to my head. Could you explain. NextGenSam619^t@lk 15:30, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@NextGenSam619: Not much I can explain. Under Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences#Revert and rollback you can uncheck boxes if you dont want them on your watchlist. There is a question "Add pages to watchlist for these types of reversions:", just uncheck the boxes and press save at the bottom. Never done it myself. Qed237 (talk) 15:34, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Done for now. Let's see what happens. NextGenSam619^t@lk 15:37, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Characters

There are articles about TV characters, which have a first appearance and a last appearance, if a TV character dies, is the date of the episode they died in credited as their last appearance, or if their body appears in a subsequent episode is that episode their last appearance? Any thoughts?, thanks TeaLover1996 (talk) 16:05, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996:I have no idea. Qed237 (talk) 18:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Pretty sure Qed237 shouldn't be expected to know about things other than football/sport, I'd recommend asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:46, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

@Joseph2302: Although I am a sports freak, I know a few other things =). But yeah in general sports is my area of expertise. Qed237 (talk) 21:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'm kind of a sports-freak too, but seem to do a random selection of other things too (although nothing about TV programmes). Joseph2302 (talk) 21:49, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 7 July

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Bandau Spallet

I have raised at SPI - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PabloOsvaldo17. @Bandau Spallet: I suggest you protest your innocence there. GiantSnowman 17:31, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the info. Saw now that the accounts has been blocked. Qed237 (talk) 21:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Lead section consensus

Hi, I edited an article about a week or more ago, and it was reverted by Mattythewhite, who said the current consensus is not to display the division in the lead section of a footballer's article, do you know where this consensus is? I've been looking at footballers articles and I have removed the division, believing that it is the current consensus not to put the division at the beginning, could you help? TeaLover1996 (talk) 14:48, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: I saw the discussion at your talkpage so I will reply there. Qed237 (talk) 14:49, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Re: Laughing

Please get off your high horse. I find the notion of Di Maria moving to PSG after only a season with Man Utd to be highly amusing. It's nothing to do with the editor in question. – PeeJay 15:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Albania

http://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/news-detail/article/football-the-cas-rejects-the-appeal-filed-by-the-serbian-fa-upholds-in-part-the-appeal-filed-by-the-albanian-fa-the-match-serbia-albania-is-deemed-to-have-been-forfeited-by-serbia-0-3.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.128.176.4 (talk • contribs)

You did not provide any source so how would I know? And also use proper language without personal attacks or you will be blocked from editing. Qed237 (talk) 10:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Don't just revert something which is being edited, people are in the process of providing the source! Nobody wakes up in the morning all of a sudden to change a specific score which has been there since October 14. It's just very cynical in your part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.128.176.4 (talk) 10:07, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

You changed the score without providing any source so I had the right do remove, very simple. Qed237 (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Uefa match

You sent me a warning as I had made edits at the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group I article.Someone had made some nacionalist edits (this user 212.200.53.37 ) and I was going to delete it .While I was trying to undo that ,Eni.Sukthi.Durres undid 212.200.53.37's disruptive editings.This way mistakely I undid Eni.Sukthi.Durres's edit.See hear https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=UEFA_Euro_2016_qualifying_Group_I&action=history .The only problem here is that I took another warning. Rolandi+ (talk) 10:46, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@Rolandi+: Okay I understand and I have removed the warning from your talkpage. Just be more careful next time. Qed237 (talk) 10:56, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Revert on 2015–16 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round

Hi, I saw you reverted the change I did in 2015–16 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round. I know the match report says Strømsgodset scored in 90+5th minute, but it's definitely wrong. The match clock said 92:57 when he scored, so the correct time is 90+3. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNDaCvUjFfw&t=228 Why should we use the wrong info, just because it's from UEFA?

--Cashewnøtt (talk) 12:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

We follow the official sources. Qed237 (talk) 12:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok. I've contacted UEFA to get them to fix the match report. Cashewnøtt (talk) 12:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay sounds great. I know UEFA sometimes have errors, like for example that Malmö will play in Västerås, but in these cases with goal times and such 0there is consensus to follow the matchreports or the numbers would be changed back and forth from a lot of users. Qed237 (talk) 13:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Group I

Hello and thanks for allowing me to write on your talk page in wikipedia. Your edit is, I feel, incorrect, as, according to the tiebreakers below, while Albania and Denmark are equal in points #1 through #5 (remember #4 cannot apply, since the match in Denmark is not played yet), Albania is better in point #6 (# Superior goal difference in all group matches). Kindly thus revise to put Albania second. I think that's what UEFA will do, but they haven't updated their page yet. Still, livescore.com (reliable source) puts Albania second already.

Tiebreakers

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following tie-breaking criteria are applied:

1. Higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams in question;
2. Superior goal difference resulting from the matches played among the teams in question;
3. Higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams in question;
4. Higher number of goals scored away from home in the matches played among the teams in question;
5. If, after having applied criteria 1 to 4, teams still have an equal ranking, criteria 1 to 4 are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria 6 to 10 apply;
6. Superior goal difference in all group matches;
7. Higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
8. Higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;
9. Fair play conduct in all group matches (1 point for a single yellow card, 3 points for a red card as a consequence of two yellow cards, 3 points for a direct red card, 4 points for a yellow card followed by a direct red card);
10. Position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system

Cimcimcakungashijaku (talk) 13:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@Cimcimcakungashijaku: If you look closely on the rulebook it says that all tiebreakers are taken to consideration after all matches are played, but before that there is actually no "true" order. For that reason we have, based on community consensus, started following the official rules when we order the tables even if the teams have only met once. So we do use criteria 4. Sometimes it has been written in the rules that the head-to-head should not be during a season or group stage but only when it has finished, which is not the case in the UEFA Euro rulebook. Since rules says to order teams according to those tiebreakers after all matches played, different sources do different things during qualification and UEFA even ordered teams alphabetically at one point (not sure now) so you can see different order on different places. For that reason we decided to follow the rules already. Qed237 (talk) 15:59, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I see. Basically you are presuming Denmark-Albania still to be 0-0, as it's usually before the start of a match. That makes sense, thanks! --Cimcimcakungashijaku (talk) 17:59, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. Qed237 (talk) 20:23, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

In light of UEFA's recent change (which puts Albania second), I think we should put Albania second too: Wiki can't decide against the main source, and the organizer of the event. Could you kindly think about making the change? Best! Cimcimcakungashijaku (talk) 00:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk page messages and comments

Are user's not allowed to edit other users messages and comments, even on their talk page? TeaLover1996 (talk) 23:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Allowed, but use extreme caution. People can be upset if you edit what they wrote and if you dont have a really good explanation it is best to let it go. Qed237 (talk) 23:38, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

On my talk page someone tried to ping you but they had put {{ping|QED237}} and it was a red link, possibly meaning you wouldn't get the notification, but I edited it to say {{ping|Qed237}} so that you did get it, also the notification may have said I mentioned you instead of the user who put it, also the editor in question thanked me for it so they were pleased or happy that I had corrected it. Thanks TeaLover1996 (talk) 23:42, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: THe ping did not work (I did not get it) because when using ping it must be followed by a fresh signature to work. Qed237 (talk) 23:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Did you see the message that was left for you? TeaLover1996 (talk) 23:47, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@TeaLover1996: Maybe, maybe not. Cant remember any message. Qed237 (talk) 23:56, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

UEFA Euro qualification group I

Albania must be second. Check the standing at UEFA's official page for group I http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/qualifiers/season=2016/standings/round=2000446/group=2002436/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.242.28.219 (talk) 10:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

We follow the rules for the tournament, while UEFA are inconsistent and sometimes order by goal differential and sometimes alphabetically. We follow the tournament rules and honestly I dont see why you are arguing, it is not final table anyway. Qed237 (talk) 13:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)