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:::::{{replyto|85.255.233.210}} You've been visiting my talk page several times a day while my posts on the Bluray talk page go unanswered. Your intentions are quite clear. [[User:Uk55|Uk55]] ([[User talk:Uk55#top|talk]]) 22:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC) |
:::::{{replyto|85.255.233.210}} You've been visiting my talk page several times a day while my posts on the Bluray talk page go unanswered. Your intentions are quite clear. [[User:Uk55|Uk55]] ([[User talk:Uk55#top|talk]]) 22:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC) |
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{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Teahouse talkback|WP:Teahouse/Questions|How does one determine possible sock puppets?|ts=—[[User:Skyllfully|Skyllfully]] <sup>([[User_talk:Skyllfully|talk]]</sup> | <sub>[[Special:Contribs/Skyllfully|contribs]])</sub> 20:07, 6 October 2015 (UTC)}} |
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:{{replyto|Cordless Larry}} Noted, I appreciate your support. That has to be one of the more bizarre criticisms I've had so far, thankfully resolved quickly. [[User:Uk55|Uk55]] ([[User talk:Uk55#top|talk]]) 22:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC) |
:{{replyto|Cordless Larry}} Noted, I appreciate your support. That has to be one of the more bizarre criticisms I've had so far, thankfully resolved quickly. [[User:Uk55|Uk55]] ([[User talk:Uk55#top|talk]]) 22:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC) |
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::I could perhaps have understood it if you said that they're British, hence they're sockpuppets (as if all British editors were socks), but there was nothing wrong with noting that three editors were ''all'' (an important word) ''British'', amongst other similarities, in my humble opinion. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 22:21, 6 October 2015 (UTC) |
::I could perhaps have understood it if you said that they're British, hence they're sockpuppets (as if all British editors were socks), but there was nothing wrong with noting that three editors were ''all'' (an important word) ''British'', amongst other similarities, in my humble opinion. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 22:21, 6 October 2015 (UTC) |
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—[[User:Skyllfully|Skyllfully]] <sup>([[User_talk:Skyllfully|talk]]</sup> | <sub>[[Special:Contribs/Skyllfully|contribs]])</sub> 03:56, 8 October 2015 (UTC) |
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== Sockpuppetry == |
== Sockpuppetry == |
Revision as of 16:09, 10 October 2015
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October 2015
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
There has been a long standing general consensus at Blu-ray, that the industry standard practice us using frame rates should be used. Occasionally we get a lone editor determined to hammer in the non standard field rates for the interlaced formats. You seem to be a new editor determined to do the same. Although a fourth revert would not be within 24 hours it still counts as edit warring and will likely result in an WP:AN3 complaint which will likely result in you being blocked from editing. 85.255.233.161 (talk) 11:59, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- @85.255.233.161: I am well aware of the three-revert rule, and am trying to avoid an edit war, but it's made difficult when people like you keep making changes without providing any evidence to support them. In the talk page so far, there are 2 people who agree with you, and two who disagree, so hardly a consensus. Please have this discussion there instead of attempting to chastise me for acting within the the rules.Uk55 (talk) 15:35, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- 85.255.233.161, can I ask if you usually edit logged in and, if so, what your username is? There aren't many contributions from your IP address. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Cordless Larry:: I only ever edit under an IP and then occasionally. The apparent few edits is because my ISP changes my IP address every time I log in. I have no control over this. I am stuck with it. And today, I am saddled with: 85.255.233.196 (talk) 16:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
- 85.255.233.161, can I ask if you usually edit logged in and, if so, what your username is? There aren't many contributions from your IP address. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- If you are as familiar with the 3 reverts rule as you claim, then you will also be aware that posting the warning template to a new editor's talk page who is at 3RR is a compulsory requirement. If you committed 4RR and no such template had been posted, the any AN3 or edit warring complaint could well fail on the grounds that you had not been informed of the rules (a link to the warning or evidence that you are aware of the rule is an essential part of any AN3 complaint). I had no way of knowing that you were familiar with the procedure or not. Having said that: it is commendable that you actually stayed on the right side of the line.
- As for your claims that there are two people who disagree with me, I can only see one. You. 85.255.233.196 (talk) 16:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
- @85.255.233.196: At no point did I exceed two edits in 24 hours. Your 'warning' was clearly an attempt at harassment, and your attempts to move the discussion here are completely unwelcome. Uk55 (talk) 17:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
- You did not. But exceeding 3 edits in 24 hours is not the only criterion to be edit warring. Just performing 4 reverts is still edit warring if you do not attempt the discuss the edit on the talk page. You did not start the attempt to discuss on the talk page, but only did so in response to Mr Wrights instigation. Nevertheless, you continued the edit war while doing so. It is yourself that is required to take the matter to the talk page in accordance with WP:BRD. That was edit warring but 3 reverts is unlikely to attact admin interest. But 4 reverts will. If you believe the warning was harassment, then I cannot help what you think. Regardless, the warning is a Wikipedia requirement as I explained. Like many others editors, I'm sure you will receive many other well intentioned warnings.
- On what basis do you consider that I have "moved the discussion here". 3RR warnings can only be placed on an editor's talk page and this discussion is solely about your non acceptance of that legitimate warning. As far as I can tell there is no discussion here on the format of your table in the article. 85.255.233.210 (talk) 22:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
- @85.255.233.210: You've been visiting my talk page several times a day while my posts on the Bluray talk page go unanswered. Your intentions are quite clear. Uk55 (talk) 22:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
A message of encouragement
Hi Uk55. I hope that this evening's events at the Teahouse haven't put you off editing. If you still have concerns about sockpuppetry, I suggest that you take up Skyllfully's offer of help. Beyond that, keep up the good work by making constructive article edits and engaging with other editors on talk pages where appropriate. If you need any other help, please do let me know. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:07, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Cordless Larry: Noted, I appreciate your support. That has to be one of the more bizarre criticisms I've had so far, thankfully resolved quickly. Uk55 (talk) 22:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- I could perhaps have understood it if you said that they're British, hence they're sockpuppets (as if all British editors were socks), but there was nothing wrong with noting that three editors were all (an important word) British, amongst other similarities, in my humble opinion. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:21, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry
You have completely given yourself away. Your recent sockpuppet allegations (an established characteristic of your sockmeister) claim that myself, I B Wright and LiveRail and the IP address hail from the UK. The IP address is simple to pin down. But the problem is that nowhere in the discussion at Talk:Blu-ray is any geographical location mentioned. I have no user page and my talk page does not mention this. I have checked Mr Wright's and LiveRail's user and talk pages and no mention there either. You can only have got this information when any of us have encountered your sockmaster or one of his many sockpuppets and this has somehow been revealed. It is clear from your knowledge of how Wikipedia works that you are not the new user that you appear to be. So you are clearly a sockpuppet of someone.
Then we have another distinctive feature of your dealing with other editors. The characteristic agression to other editors that is typical of your sockmaster and all his socks. A bit more digging and everything falls into place.
Finally we check for one distinctive chracteristic that stands out like a fingerprint - and it is present so off to WP:SPI we go. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 12:42, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- And guess what I find when I hit save to file the report? Someone's beaten me to it. Anyway he failed to advise you so I will do it.
You are suspected of sock puppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bhtpbank. Thank you. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 12:44, 8 October 2015 (UTC)