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While the interaction between the greater male inclination to violence and the existence of trans panic tropes supports the idea that the incidence of heterosexuality and bisexuality among transgender female murder victims would be higher than the incidence of heterosexuality and bisexuality among transgender women as a broader class, it would surprise me greatly if the number of transgender lesbians killed out of any given sample of LGBTQ+ murder victims was less than 1% of the total sample. Therefore, the fact that this statistic adds up to 100% suggests to me that it's fallaciously using "lesbians" to mean "cisgender lesbians". [[Special:Contributions/86.153.60.194|86.153.60.194]] ([[User talk:86.153.60.194|talk]]) 17:30, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
While the interaction between the greater male inclination to violence and the existence of trans panic tropes supports the idea that the incidence of heterosexuality and bisexuality among transgender female murder victims would be higher than the incidence of heterosexuality and bisexuality among transgender women as a broader class, it would surprise me greatly if the number of transgender lesbians killed out of any given sample of LGBTQ+ murder victims was less than 1% of the total sample. Therefore, the fact that this statistic adds up to 100% suggests to me that it's fallaciously using "lesbians" to mean "cisgender lesbians". [[Special:Contributions/86.153.60.194|86.153.60.194]] ([[User talk:86.153.60.194|talk]]) 17:30, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Of course trans women can be lesbians, you transphobic tosspot.


== Inclusion of serial killers ==
== Inclusion of serial killers ==

Revision as of 18:01, 6 December 2015

"64% of the victims were gay men, 32% were trans women, and 4% were lesbians" (section "criminal assault")

While the interaction between the greater male inclination to violence and the existence of trans panic tropes supports the idea that the incidence of heterosexuality and bisexuality among transgender female murder victims would be higher than the incidence of heterosexuality and bisexuality among transgender women as a broader class, it would surprise me greatly if the number of transgender lesbians killed out of any given sample of LGBTQ+ murder victims was less than 1% of the total sample. Therefore, the fact that this statistic adds up to 100% suggests to me that it's fallaciously using "lesbians" to mean "cisgender lesbians". 86.153.60.194 (talk) 17:30, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course trans women can be lesbians, you transphobic tosspot.

Inclusion of serial killers

The inclusion of the serial killers John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer is problematic. It's not clear that self-hate was the only (or driving) reason behind their crimes. Recommend either deletion or move to separate section. omgwtf

State-sponsored violence

The article says that "The Roman Empire starting under Constantine around 400 CE." Since Constantine was emperor between 306 and 337, I think "The Roman Empire starting under Constantine in the early 4th century", or maybe "The Roman Empire starting after Constantine around 400 CE." would be more appropriate.

Updated Hate Crime stats

Here's the link to the 2010 hate crime stats: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.233.206 (talk) 16:03, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Historical state-Sanctioned violence; Only in Europe?

I have a funny feeling there was probably at some point state-sanctioned violence against LGBT people somewhere outside of Europe. I will look into this further, but it might be a bit of a task... any help would be appreciated. Cheers! ☻☻☻Sithman VIII !!☻☻☻ 04:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eggs

Does throwing eggs actually count as violence? Can kids get criminalised for throwing eggs at each other, or at houses on halloween?

SuperMudz (talk) 07:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course it's violent, and a criminal offense. Your second question doesn't make any sense. If you mean, "can they be arrested and charged?", of course, they can. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 19:33, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
SuperMudz it depends on the context and the relationship. In some contexts throwing eggs may be considered playful high jinks but in other contexts it can constitute a belittling hate attack linked with a potentially wilful damaging of property. How do you think it would affect (I don't know if I have terminologies right) someone, say, with a princess mentality. GregKaye 19:43, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Original research: Macho culture and social homophobia

"From an evolutionary point of view male-to-male homophobia makes little sense, as the existence of homosexual males in the population reduces for any heterosexual male the number of competitors in the heterosexual mating process. If anything, from the same point of view hetero males would be expected to encourage homosexual preferences in other males."—Source

Although plausible, this claim isn't referenced and looks like original research.—109.231.234.46 (talk) 11:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Missing reference

^ a b c d e f g h i j k Stahnke, Tad, et. al. (2008). Violence Based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Bias: 2008 Hate Crime Survey. Human Rights First.

This pdf currently 404's, not sure if it has been moved or has just disappeared completely. --91.209.142.224 (talk) 16:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More than hate crime

From an outsiders perspective to LGBT it seems to me that prejudice is inclusive but not limited to hate. Just because Violence against LGBT people is classified as a hate crime I dispute that this should limit the classification.

I suggest that the LGBT entry in: Template:Discrimination_sidebar is changed from "LGBT hate crime" to the actual title "Violence against LGBT people".

(Also wondered if there was a way to promote the use of My bad(ge) - Template:User recognises LG significance) Gregkaye (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]