Talk:William Shakespeare

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Continued talk: Most quoted writer

Comment after reading the discussion in archive 2: Personally I think 'Most quoted writer' is a hard thing to say. It seems that the source draws from various categories. IMO though Shakespeare being a 'Most quoted writer' is a commonly agreed thing it is impossible to prove that. We don't know if there's a secret anti-Shakespearean group somewhere speaking non-Shakespeare quotes everyday just to destroy this claim. All in all the claim cannot be verified. We might need to specify some categories that we can easily prove, such as 'Most quoted writer in dictionaries', 'Most quoted writer in books', etc., or just simply 'One of the most quoted writers'. Aranherunar 09:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Translations into other languages

When Shakespeare is translated into other languages, to they tend to translate him into a pseudo-16th century version of that language, or a modern one? Does anyone have any examples? TharkunColl 16:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Into modern language, usually, as I understand. I don't have any examples, but presumably you'd find plenty on amazon.fr or amazon.de etc. AndyJones 12:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Was Shakespeare gay?

I though he was.

Dfrg.msc File:DFRG. MSC.jpg 01:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

A lot of writers believe so. There's no way of knowing for certain. It was Oscar Wilde who popularised the idea. The strongest evidence is in the passionate poems addressed to the young man in the Sonnets, especially sonnet 20.

The search for "certainty" can obscure something much more meaningful - the significance of suggestive evidence. If Shakespeare was running for office today and the sonnets surfaced, he would be hounded out of town. If the subject could be identified as a particular youth even one day under age, he would be subject to arrest in some jurisdictions. Shakespeare expressed emotions that many perceptive readers over the centuries have identified as same-sex desire and love. They are thought to be a window into his heart. Haiduc 11:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, I forgot to mention we've got a whole article on the subject: Sexuality of William Shakespeare. AndyJones 12:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

How interesting, thanks guys. Dfrg.msc File:DFRG. MSC.jpg 07:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Later Years

There are claimed descendants of Dr John Hall and his wife daughter of William Shakespear.

And other descendants claimed via his other daughter.

Writeups about this are weak by non experts in genealogy.

Speculation/Identity

Francis Bacon being William Shakespear is supported by computer studies esp of shared word usage esp words from the early dictionary by Thomas Cooper.

No it isn't. Paul B 11:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Muse, Enlightenment, BUrnout

New section ?

Little is understood by academe about enlightenment, taught in the old colleges of Greece, Egypt & Rome, to engender that white heat of extraordinary creativity and abilities that a Shakespear surely had, and less of the potential resulting burnout from that heightened energy.

Muse or direct selection by heaven as Saul / Paul struck blind then enlightened, or manic madness - rude jackanapes chant on.

Illuminating. Please feel free to keep future similar thoughts to yourself. Paul B 11:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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Shakespeare's works

There absolutely needs to be a sentence at the beginning of the article stating that it is not proven whether he did write the works actually.