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Have redirected back to victim's name for article title. Calling it a murder is premature and not yet proven in a court of law. Leaving it at "Murder of" is a policy vio and liability issue for Wikipedia as it implicates the suspect is a proven murderer. As far as I'm aware, autopsy has not yet been released. Please discuss here before changing back/edit warring. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 19:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The man has been charged with murder so the government believes it is a murder. Cutting someone's head off and leg is not "accidental slip while carrying a knife". However, if you wish to add, as is done in some countries but not the U.S. the sentence "Nothing has been proven in court", you may. In some countries, in newspapers, they add such a sentence to the article.

Whiskeymouth (talk) 04:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The prosecution's job is to get a conviction, however, no evidence that I'm aware of has been presented to indicate this was a murder. Has the autopsy been released? Are there any reliable, secondary sources that say without a doubt it was murder? Without these things, we as editors can believe what we like about Lyne's death. We just can't say it in Wiki-voice. It's not our job to determine via POV, original research, and synthesis whether or not a murder was committed. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 05:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Knock off the nonsense. This is the type of thing people have warned you about on your page, Wink. You are acting like you are being purposely contentious. Do you recall "Just Stop" section that you seemed to agree with a month ago? This was a murder, no ifs/ands/buts. The Reliable Sources all say it is a murder, at which point anything you have to say is Original Research, which won't be tolerated nor will edit-warring. You've made it impossible for other editors to AGF with you . . .

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 :The prosecution's job is to get a conviction, however, no evidence that I'm aware of has been presented to indicate this was a murder.  Has the autopsy been released?  Are there any reliable, secondary sources that say without a doubt it was murder?  Without these things, we as editors can believe what we like about Lyne's death.  We just can't say it in Wiki-voice.  It's not our job to determine via POV, original research, and synthesis whether or not a murder was committed. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">[[User:Winkelvi|WV]]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">[[User_talk:Winkelvi|✉]] [[Special:Contributions/Winkelvi|✓]]</span>  05:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
+::Knock off the nonsense. This is the type of thing people have warned you about on your page, Wink. You are acting like you are being purposely contentious. Do you recall "Just Stop" section that you seemed to agree with a month ago?  This was a murder, no ifs/ands/buts. The Reliable Sources all say it is a murder, at which point anything you have to say is Original Research, which won't be tolerated nor will edit-warring.  You've made it impossible for other editors to AGF with you . . .