User talk:Black Kite

Link spam

Hey man, you didn't catch the blatent self-link spam on My Kind of Girl before you moved it to mainspace :P.--v/r - TP 03:56, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Plip!

• Ugh. That'll teach me to read an article even when it's an uncontentious G6 request from a trusted user. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 18:43, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of ManagerZone for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ManagerZone is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ManagerZone (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. The1337gamer (talk) 20:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Suspicious AfD Close

Thank you for reclosing the AfD. I'm reasonably certain the initial AfD close was a paid job (possibly on a freelancing site). In fact, the article subject has the Wikipedia article link on their homepage. However, this is the first time I am encountering paid editors closing AfDs. That's a new low. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:27, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Just for your information, the subject of the article went to the dispute resolution noticeboard to request review of the AFD close. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Summary_of_dispute_by_Rniterjr.3B_Black_Kite.3B_Lemongirl942

First, the DRN request is very badly composed. That isn't the problem. I could have fixed that if it had been a proper request. Second, the filing party at DRN has a conflict of interest. That isn't the problem. Third, DRN is for article content disputes and isn't used when there is a specific alternate forum. I closed the request and advised the filer to go to deletion review. I think that you can expect to see the close taken to deletion review. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:46, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

• Oh yes, I'm fully expecting that. There was nothing wrong with what you did at DRN. However, the evidence that five of the six Keep votes originated from the same place is fairly convincing. Black Kite (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

I am inferring that you are saying that there may have been sockpuppetry in the AFD. Unfortunately, I am never surprised when there is sockpuppetry in an AFD. Of course, that will be considered at DRV, and you and I agree that DRN is not the forum to rehash that. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:07, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Lance Stroll

When the father of a racing driver is a part of that racing driver's management team, and is therefore in a position to comment on the next stage of his career, it's an acceptable source because he represents the driver.

Furthermore, your additions violate WP:WEASEL because they build a back door into the phrasing. If it comes to pass that Stroll is not announced, you defer responsibility to the source; you're saying "Wikipedia was never wrong, the source was". It's not a literal definition of WEASEL, but it's the same in spirit, and there's no specific MOS guideline for what I put forward just now. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 08:21, 18 October 2016 (UTC)