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"Nigga" in the lead

Soupforone, regarding this and this, regardless of what we state in the hatnote, it's likely that "nigga" should be noted in the lead, given the confusion (and debate) regarding it. That stated, I don't see that much is noted in the "Etymology and history" section about it; so including it in the lead per the WP:Lead argument is weak. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:49, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, the word "Nigga" would be a dialect of the English "Nigger", Given it's usage with near-identical accepted definition and the near-identical pronunciation, it would not constitute a "separate" word, but rather represents a vowel sound as a variation of pronunciation with a mere alternate spelling. Therefore, it should be a simple "redirect" page. 108.201.29.108 (talk) 18:28, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It qualifies as a WP:Notable topic on its own, which is why we have an article on it (although WP:No page exists as well). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:14, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Niggardly

Niggardly is not the same as nigger although many African-Americans now consider "niggardly" to be a slur. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.150.249.19 (talk) 20:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for starting this discussion. Do you have a reliable source we could use? It would be great to mention this in the article. = paul2520 (talk) 13:56, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As a follow-up, I just did a search and found the section Nigger#Homophones. = paul2520 (talk) 13:59, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Within that section, there is a piped link to Controversies about the word "niggardly". Carbon Caryatid (talk) 23:58, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As A Racist Myself I Can Confirm That Niggardly Is Not The Same. Bucktony (talk) 20:59, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nigger/ Niger/ Nigeria

The majority(or first of slaves) were kidnapped and taken to America, from West Africa.

A Likely scenario, the word "nigger" was not "made up", it was most likely an exaggerated pronunciation of one coming from Niger/Nigeria, or even in a later time Latin roots.

The N'Word, today is still used by some to inflict pain, and some define in the dictionary as a bad word or slur,

It isn't likely one can stop people from saying it or using it inappropriately, however the definition in most dictionaries is debatable and based off of far reaching theories , &simply reinforces its negativity.

I think this new development or way of defining takes some of the hate out off the word, referring to A strong West African Man/Women, a beautiful & deeply rich origin. Or a way to refer to a brother of similar heritage. This bit of logic may be why in some African American cultures the n word can be compliment in ways or similar to brother.— Preceding unsigned comment added by StillLong (talk • contribs)

Please read carefully WP:RELIABLESOURCES, WP:NOORIGINALRESEARCH, WP:VERIFICATION and after you do that, please report back here and tell me if what you wrote is still valid. Thanks. Dr. K. 05:12, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 :: As a follow-up, I just did a search and found the section [[Nigger#Homophones]]. = [[User:Paul2520|paul2520]] ([[User talk:Paul2520|talk]]) 13:59, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 :::Within that section, there is a piped link to [[Controversies about the word "niggardly"]]. [[User:Carbon Caryatid|Carbon Caryatid]] ([[User talk:Carbon Caryatid|talk]]) 23:58, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
+::::As A Racist Myself I Can Confirm That Niggardly Is Not The Same. [[User:Bucktony|Bucktony]] ([[User talk:Bucktony|talk]]) 20:59, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 == Nigger/ Niger/ Nigeria ==