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{{ping|HJ Mitchell}} while looking up details of memorials where Lutyens waived his fee, I came across an extra detail on [https://www.norwich.gov.uk/info/20251/lord_mayor_and_sheriff/1849/norwich_war_memorial/2 this page] about the Norwich memorial roll of honour: the roll of honour (for which Lutyens waived his fee ''as well'' as paying the difference, a point not made clear in the article) was moved in 2016 from the castle to the town hall. As this is where the names are, this is a point that should really be made in the article. Also, are the details from [https://www.norwich.gov.uk/info/20251/lord_mayor_and_sheriff/1849/norwich_war_memorial this page] new or is that not a reliable source? (the fact that the bronze is gilded with gold leaf; and the 'two caskets of copper and zinc' bit). Maybe your sources say more on these points? Did the original memorial have the bronze gilded? The article seems to imply this, though any gilding is gone by the time of the 2004 photo. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 13:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC) |
{{ping|HJ Mitchell}} while looking up details of memorials where Lutyens waived his fee, I came across an extra detail on [https://www.norwich.gov.uk/info/20251/lord_mayor_and_sheriff/1849/norwich_war_memorial/2 this page] about the Norwich memorial roll of honour: the roll of honour (for which Lutyens waived his fee ''as well'' as paying the difference, a point not made clear in the article) was moved in 2016 from the castle to the town hall. As this is where the names are, this is a point that should really be made in the article. Also, are the details from [https://www.norwich.gov.uk/info/20251/lord_mayor_and_sheriff/1849/norwich_war_memorial this page] new or is that not a reliable source? (the fact that the bronze is gilded with gold leaf; and the 'two caskets of copper and zinc' bit). Maybe your sources say more on these points? Did the original memorial have the bronze gilded? The article seems to imply this, though any gilding is gone by the time of the 2004 photo. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 13:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:Thanks, {{u|Carcharoth}}, there are some useful details there, which I've added to the article. Also {{ping|GraemeLeggett}} I added a couple of sentences on the VC commemorative stones; thanks for the link. If you spot any update on the third stone before I do, please let me know! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman" Title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 11:43, 28 October 2017 (UTC) |
:Thanks, {{u|Carcharoth}}, there are some useful details there, which I've added to the article. Also {{ping|GraemeLeggett}} I added a couple of sentences on the VC commemorative stones; thanks for the link. If you spot any update on the third stone before I do, please let me know! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman" Title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 11:43, 28 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== Cenotaph == |
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In the Design section, this is misleading: |
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'The memorial is of Portland stone construction. It consists of a low screen wall on top of which is a tomb chest (cenotaph) topped with a carved wreath' |
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This suggests that a cenotaph is a tomb chest. It isn't, it's an empty tomb of any kind, a symbolic grave, and isn't specifically a table/chest tomb. |
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Minor niggle - born of my curiosity - but what was the context for Bell commenting on the state of the memorial? Was he researching memorials, or Norwich, or was he in the city for an unrelated reason that took him past the memorial and he commented on it later? GraemeLeggett (talk) 09:54, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
an addition or just next to?
Two Norwich-born VC winners now have memorial stones laid in paving directly in front of the memorial. With a third to follow. "Hero sons of our city honoured 100 years after receiving Victoria Cross"
Roll of honour moved and other details
@HJ Mitchell: while looking up details of memorials where Lutyens waived his fee, I came across an extra detail on this page about the Norwich memorial roll of honour: the roll of honour (for which Lutyens waived his fee as well as paying the difference, a point not made clear in the article) was moved in 2016 from the castle to the town hall. As this is where the names are, this is a point that should really be made in the article. Also, are the details from this page new or is that not a reliable source? (the fact that the bronze is gilded with gold leaf; and the 'two caskets of copper and zinc' bit). Maybe your sources say more on these points? Did the original memorial have the bronze gilded? The article seems to imply this, though any gilding is gone by the time of the 2004 photo. Carcharoth (talk) 13:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Carcharoth, there are some useful details there, which I've added to the article. Also @GraemeLeggett: I added a couple of sentences on the VC commemorative stones; thanks for the link. If you spot any update on the third stone before I do, please let me know! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:43, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
Cenotaph
In the Design section, this is misleading:
'The memorial is of Portland stone construction. It consists of a low screen wall on top of which is a tomb chest (cenotaph) topped with a carved wreath'
This suggests that a cenotaph is a tomb chest. It isn't, it's an empty tomb of any kind, a symbolic grave, and isn't specifically a table/chest tomb.
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