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== Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2017 ==

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I just want to say that there are may famous jatt in every field of life from pakistan. You have list of pakistani politician jatts. How can you ignore Dehdo Ranjha, icon of sout asian folk culture.


Use of Caste in biographies and lists- does it require the individual's self-declaration?

Hi, request those who are watching this page to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Caste_identification on whether mentioning a person's caste (Jati) requires that person to explicitly say that he belongs to XX caste (like in the case of religion and sexuality), or whether caste identity is objective and knowable enough (like ethnic background) to be ascertained without producing proof that the person explicitly identified with a particular caste. For example, can we identify Mulayam_Singh_Yadav as a Yadav based on newspaper articles etc., or whether we need proof that Mulayam Singh Yadav has explicitly accepted 'Yadav' as his caste (by saying, for example, something like "I am a Yadav".) Sreejiraj (talk) 19:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deletion

Regardless of citations and annotations, this is definitely an open-ended list, and should be deleted per the proposals at User:Sidatio/Conversations/On list guidelines. It also appears to be a "directory" and "indiscriminate collection of information", and "is practically the same as List of Nairs" per the arguments for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Rajputs Kappa 07:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not. This article was kept over a year ago over a vote.

Also there are :

This article cannot be deleted because there are:

--Peter johnson4 12:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

history

hello

i want to know the history of the sub caste of jat family known as ( jat jahmat ). pls give me any detail you can provide me or any person who belong to the same family contact me my e mail address is zahidafzalz@yahoo.com.

i will appricate your help

thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.107.14 (talk) 19:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adjusted article

Hi,

Today I added some references and adjusted the article in a more informative way,,and moreover adjusted names to their respective catagories. If you have any concern with this edit then firstly plz. discuss it here ..I will add more references soon..

-- Last Emperor (talk) 06:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Genxarmy (talk) 05:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add The name of Wrestler and Olympic medalist Sushil Kumar in the list of people belonging to Jat Clan - List Of Jats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jats)

Source of verification for this addition is - http://www.jatland.com/home/Sushil_Solanki

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Lord Krishna a Jatt? Where did you get that from? Lord Krishna was from the Yadu clan also known as a Yaduvanshi, now commonly known as Ahirs/Yadavs. I know jatts are similar to Yadavs but Jatts didn't weren't in existence back then in Bharat vansh.

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Ch. Mani Ram Bagri

This edit added one source (the parliamentary bio) that doesn't mention "Jat"; another (jatland.com) that is an open wiki; a third (Indian Mirror) that does not seem to mention the man; and a fourth (Dainik) that is not in English and the veracity of which I doubt given the apparent cluelessness of the contributor. So I reverted it. - Sitush (talk) 15:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Response

'Clueless'- seems pretty mature, Shri Situssbhai. By the way, there is a lack of online sources that can be cited for Ch. Bagri, given the astonishing fact that he did not serve in an age where online tabloids were an existent form of documentation. If the issue here is whether Ch. Bagri was a Jat at all, there is a wealth of anecdotal identification and circumstantial evidence, including the fact that he was elected from a constituency that has historically elected only Jats for its entire existence. Don't depend on my word for it- the fact that you chose to overlook the dozens of entries on the page that are either entirely un-cited or depend on tabloid articles and various other unverifiable sources, that leads me to think that this edit war is more about asserting your own authority over the content of the page, which happens to be freely editable and readable by everyone. The Hindi source that you could not read or chose not to read not only makes me question your own purported knowledge of Jat issues, but also the fact that crucial factual evidence was ignored simply because it was in another (factually relevant) language. I would encourage you to consult people who knew Ch. Bagri during his lifetime, consult official Lok Sabha records, or even bother to visit his Wikipedia page, even though I know you will not do any of these things. I understand that this evidence pales in comparison to the tabloid sources that are apparantly game on this page, including those that 'verify' Mallika Sherawat and Jimmy Shergill as members of the Jat community, but it is still vital evidence. We can go into semantics about Jatness and Jat identity here too, but something tells me this edit war isn't about facts; it's about demanding a standard of documentation that did not exist for this man and thousands of MPs like him, and then proclaiming falsehoods without considering the remaining anecdotal, non-print evidence. Unfortunately, due to Ch. Bagri's impoverished past, he, and millions of Indians like him, did not enjoy the benefits of a birth certificate, full genetic logs and legal records of ancestry. But we do know that he was a three-term MP, and a prolific orator deeply respected within his home state. If you can't respect the fact that not everybody could conclusively verify their caste, and that in any case, Ch. Bagri was a highly esteemed and crucial figure within the Jat community in his era, as one can read verbatim from the print sources I have 'cluelessly' attached, then I assume that good faith is being severely compromised. That said, I understand that you're probably going to either: (a) Get a bot to send me a notice for vandalism or edit-warring, (b) ban me from editing entirely, or (c) shove tons of ad hoc Wikipedia content guidelines into this thread that support your standard of documentation in comparison to reality. Since we are both anonymous, I'd like to make sure that nobody thinks that I am invested enough in this page to continue to pursue a lengthy edit war. I respect the man we speak of, and that is why I have taken the trouble to write to you despite the insult that you deemed fit to hurl at me, despite you not knowing who I am, my qualifications or my full control of my mental capabilities. I am most definitely not 'clueless' when it comes to facts. And I am truly disgusted by the attitude of admins and ranking members here on Wikipedia toward facts. Cheers, or should I say 'ताऊ किस्से लड़न लागरे है से?'

Deeply disappointed with your work and attitude toward facts, TheBearEditor (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So, do you have a source or is the above just a rant? - Sitush (talk) 09:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jat wrestler

Udey chand wrestler- first Arjun awardy in wrestling Ybheron (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2017

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