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So finally my point is:
So finally my point is:
1. FIFE is the only Fallout-like engine in active development
# FIFE is the only Fallout-like engine in active development
2. It is in a stage where you can use Fallout maps, archives, gfx & sounds with it
# It is in a stage where you can use Fallout maps, archives, gfx & sounds with it
3. FIFE was created for the Fallout modders to give them a better engine to develope mods on
# FIFE was created for the Fallout modders to give them a better engine to develope mods on
4. Other game articles feature open source version of their engines too. You can argue that on all open source engines are listed there '''but the important ones are'''. So is FIFE important? Yes, see point 1.
# Other game articles feature open source version of their engines too. You can argue that on all open source engines are listed there '''but the important ones are'''. So is FIFE important? Yes, see point 1.


I would like to hear the opinion of other wiki-people how alternative game engines should be handled in game articles. If the FIFE link gets removed I guess this is a general policy. In this case all alternative game engine links should be removed. E.g. the ones from the above linked Ultima article.
I would like to hear the opinion of other wiki-people how alternative game engines should be handled in game articles. If the FIFE link gets removed I guess this is a general policy. In this case all alternative game engine links should be removed. E.g. the ones from the above linked Ultima article.

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No-spoiler summary

I've heard many good things about this game and consider buying it. I'd be happy if someone could write a short summary of the background story of the game, and a summary of the plot that would not include any spoilers. I suggest this summary be put before the "Storyline" section, which does have spoilers. Thanks, Tamuz (Talk) 12:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For Fallout 1, you can read this, for Fallout 2 you can read this. Those sites are mirrors of the official websites before Interplay went bankrupt. --Voidvector 15:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added a link to the FIFE website and it gets constantly removed here. FIFE is an open source Fallout-like engine and supports loading Fallout 1 DAT archives, Fallout 2 DAT archives, Fallout maps, Fallout gfx & Fallout sounds. I took a look at other game articles (especially RPGs, because Fallout is one). For the infinity engine games there is a seperate article and this article features a link to GemRB: see Infinity_Engine. As the Fallout engine was just used for Fallout 1 + 2 there is no Fallout engine article so IHMO the FIFE link belongs to the Fallout game article.

I took a look at the Ultima games article and there are listed all kind of open source Ultima engines even such that been registered at sourceforge for years but never released anything. So on side the Ultima article lists even Ultima engine projects that never did a release and prolly never will do any but for the Fallout article it's not allowed to link to the only Fallout-like engine in active development.

For your argument about Quake engines: the Quake article lists engine mods, see here: Quake#Replacement_Quake.2FQuakeWorld_Engines

So finally my point is:

  1. FIFE is the only Fallout-like engine in active development
  2. It is in a stage where you can use Fallout maps, archives, gfx & sounds with it
  3. FIFE was created for the Fallout modders to give them a better engine to develope mods on
  4. Other game articles feature open source version of their engines too. You can argue that on all open source engines are listed there but the important ones are. So is FIFE important? Yes, see point 1.

I would like to hear the opinion of other wiki-people how alternative game engines should be handled in game articles. If the FIFE link gets removed I guess this is a general policy. In this case all alternative game engine links should be removed. E.g. the ones from the above linked Ultima article.

MvBarracuda 10:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]