User talk:BeenAroundAWhile/Archive2

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Thanks (VandalProof)

I must have been busy "carousing" when I wrote those opening paragraphs, and I wanted to thank you for fixing them a bit. Truth is, I've been so busy with the technical aspects of the program that I haven't devoted much time to interfacing with the users--I don't even have a semicomplete help file for it yet. Anyway, thanks for helping me--I can use all the help I can get. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Good work

When I first glimpsed your massive edit to History of California, back in March.[1], I cringed. But as I reviewed it I couldn't find fault with of your edits, and instead I found you'd improved the article while trimming its excessive length. Just now I caught your edit to University of Bridgeport. You've done equally well on that article too, even though its problems were different. Thanks for contributing your time and editing skills. Cheers, -Will Beback 09:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I also wanted to thank you for copy editing Calvary Chapel Bible College. Good work. --Basar 16:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Also thanks from me re: Astrology College - my English grammar and phrasing is not always the best, so I really appreciate it. I wish you'd visit the other articles I've created and do your stuff there too! - Regards MayoPaul5 10:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Baba Fakruddin

Hi, thanks for reporting the copyright problem with Baba Fakruddin. However, Wikipedia:Requested copyright examinations is not the place for reporting copyright issues with material already in articles -- please use the procedure described in Wikipedia:Copyright problems to report the article as a copyvio, including blanking/tagging the article as necessary and reporting it to the copyvio daily log. Thanks, --MCB 04:27, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, obviously I could not understand the directions even though I printed them out and followed them as best I could. I don't even understand how to contact you. I guess I will just go on as I have before, editing copy and trying to make sense of some of the articles: It is relaxing for me in an odd sort of way, but the vagaries of Wiki procedures are far beyond my feeble capacities, I have found.

You write as though I should know what a "copyvio" is (I can guess) and where the "copyvio daily log" is (I have no idea) and what "blanking/tagging" is (this is not English as I know it). Nevertheless, I thank you for donating your time to this endeavor and attempting to set me straight, although the Wiki-path to me seems just as snarled as the wires behind my computer. Sincerely. GeorgeLouis 13:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I started to just put a {tl|cleanup}} tag on Cholo, but I decided it wouldn't take too long to tidy up -- glad you liked the result, since apparently you are another quiet editor of copy like me.  :) As for style questions, I'm often an 'editor-by-feel' who has learned what is correct mainly through massive amounts of reading, so I can't always justify my opinions using grammar-speak.

However, I think I'd agree that you "persuade TO" -- you are persuading a person to do something active, even if it's just "to change" their minds. That "to" should always be connected to a verb.

And "convince THAT" sounds correct to me too, because convincing someone involves presenting a fact THAT they must be "persuaded TO" accept. In certain sentences "convince TO" and "persuade THAT" might be acceptable grammar, but the sentences would almost always be improved stylistically by using the correct verb for either trying to get them to take an action (persuade) or accept a fact (convince).

Wow, that's quite a jumble of an explanation. Hope you can make sense of it!

Thanks again for the kind words, it's always nice to know when someone has noticed your work. Cheers! — Catherine\^talk 20:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

So I was checking back on my edits to the Daily Bruin page (under the history I was listed as 71.106.173.44, which was odd since I was sure I was logged in as my usual name, dlipkin), but anyway, I am glad that you cleaned up some of the places I had missed information or wrote it oddly.

Anyway, I and everyone at the Daily Bruin appreciate it! I'll try to keep the page up-to-date with some changes that will be going on this year!

Derek Lipkin

Mother church and mother church

It's great that you're making sweeping updates to correct the various uses of Mother church, mother church, Motherchurch, and all other versions. However, many of the links you updated now break because Wikipedia doesn't forward users through double redirects. If you click on the links I've included you'll see what I'm refering to.

Although it's counter intuitive that Article titles would be case sensitive, they are. Here's the link that should be used Mother Church. I've corrected a number of the pages on my watchlist but I've also noticed you updated many more articles. You may want to go back and double check the links you modified so those articles don't encounter the same problem.

Take care - Dennis 13:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Proposed deletion

According to Wikipedia:Proposed deletion, "Proposed deletion is a process for deleting articles that are uncontroversial deletion candidates but do not meet the criteria for speedy deletion." I cannot see that these articles are "uncontroversial deletion candidates" just for lacking sources; they would probably not be deleted at WP:AFD. Tupsharru 16:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, you are obviously correct in principle that these articles need sources, but complete referencing of all articles is still a distant goal, and many articles without referencing have actually been written based on good sources. If you add the {{unreferenced}} tag, chances are that the original author or someone else will eventually come back to them, (hopefully) check the content and add references. Tupsharru 17:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yoyogi Park

Here I copy and paste the entire text from the webpage[2]. Note line 3.

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Yoyogi Park - Click here to see the gallery.

Is one of the largest parks in Tokyo, located adjacent to Harajuku Station and Meiji Shrine in Shibuya.

What is now Yoyogi Park was the site of the first successful powered aircraft flight in Japan, on December 19, 1910, by Captain Yoshitoshi Tokugawa, following which it became an army parade ground. During the postwar occupation, it was the site of the Washington Heights residence for U.S. officers. It later was selected as the site for the 1964 Tokyo Olympics, and the distinctive Olympic buildings designed by Kenzo Tange are still nearby. In 1967, it was made into a city park.

Today, the park is a popular hangout, especially on Sundays, when it is used as a gathering place for people to play music, practice martial arts, etc. The park has a bike path, and bicycle rentals are available. As a consequence of Japan's long recession, there are several large, but surprisingly quiet and orderly, homeless camps around the park's periphery.

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Precis 21:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Dear Precis: I sit corrected, in abject surrender.

Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 23:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Referring to Jonathan Club, I wrote: "Re 1988, see [3]." Precis 08:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC) You replied ".. your footnote goes to the wrong source, and maybe that was intentional." The footnote in fact goes to an article in the May 6, 1988 New York Times which contains exactly the quote that appears near the bottom of the Jonathan Club page. I cut and paste the NYT article below (my hightlights).

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May 6, 1988 California High Court Rules Against Club on Membership AP LEAD: The state Supreme Court today allowed the California Coastal Commission to require that an exclusive club in the Los Angeles area pledge that it will not discriminate in exchange for permission to develop beach property. The state Supreme Court today allowed the California Coastal Commission to require that an exclusive club in the Los Angeles area pledge that it will not discriminate in exchange for permission to develop beach property. The Court refused to hear an appeal of a lower-court ruling that upheld the Coastal Commission's requirement. The Jonathan Club wants to add paddle tennis courts and a parking lot, all restricted to members only, on beach property, some of it leased from the state. The leases do not contain anti-discrimination clauses. But when the club applied for a development permit in 1985, the commission said it would require a promise not to discriminate against minorities or women. The club refused, saying its membership policies were irrelevant to the issue. But a Superior Court Judge ruled in the commission's favor and was upheld by a state appeals court.The club admitted its first black and female members last summer, and said in court papers it did not discriminate in its membership practices. John Shiner, the club's attorney it had not decided whether to appeal. Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company Home Privacy Policy Search Corrections XML Help Contact Us Work for Us Back to Top

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Precis 00:14, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The big "C"

I think that the statement in question is misleading because on many days the "C" cannont be seen from campus due to the severe air pollution. I would support a modified version that states the "C"'s true visibility.Insert-Belltower 22:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Every day that I walked onto campus from my apartment for all four years, yes... even when it rained and was very cloudy... I could easily see the C on the hill. Every single day. I do not think a modified version would be correct in the slightest. 66.214.118.69 06:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

BT

BT is British Telecom, probably. --Jumbo 03:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

British Telecom sponsor these journalistic awards http://www.bjr.org.uk/data/1999/no4_goodman.htm - Triviajunkie 00:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

UC Riverside stand-off

If you haven't completely given up on the UCR article, this is what I'm asking editors opposed to UCRGrad and Insert-Belltower to do. I don't know whether it will work, but we'll see. Since I seem to be the anti-UCRGrad editor who is making the most edits, it would be easier for me to simply revert back to them (after they are reverted by UCRGrad/Insert-Belltower) if other editors edited my edits (go to latest starkt entry in the history section) instead of the article itself. I don't know whether this will work, but I think it's worth a try. That way, when I revert back, I won't be overwriting any edits that were put in by other editors. starkt 15:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

This is a good idea, Starkt. I will try it for a while (gingerly) and let you see if you agree with my edits, which are meant only to improve.

Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 02:51, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite, Mr. Louis. I appreciate the work you've been doing on the article. Feel free to use the content I provided to the UCR articles in any way you see fit. I won't have much time to work on further article development this week, as I am focusing off-line on developing a comprehensive statement covering the scope and nature of the conduct violations that have occured within the course of the editing conflicts over the past few months... but I appreciate your effort on developing the article further.

I have a question though: was UCR as tough a place for undergraduates academically as people quoted in in the UCR oral histories say it was before the problematic shift to full research university status in the 1960s?--Amerique 23:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

In answer to Amerique's question about the "toughness" of UCR before it became a research university, I believe it was a challenging school but all the students were up to the challenge. In my class, 1957, every single person was accepted to a graduate program at some other university, I believe (though I myself took my master's 13 years later, at UCLA).

Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 03:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your great work on the UCR article. I especially appreciate the inclusion of the section on Native Studies. I was actually working on this article and pursuing WP:DR activities in order to clear the way, in the long term, for the non-biased inclusion of a section like this. As UCR is "the most diverse UC," I think all of UCR's various diversity/community initiatives should be highlighted, but Native Studies is especially important because of UCR's historic relationship with the Costos and their close relationships with Pechanga, San Manuel, and several other of the 20 or so recognized and non-recognized local tribes, as well as with the students in Sherman Indian School. I very much look forward to working with you on this article after I've completed the WP:DR process.--Amerique 00:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your hard work and the time you have spent improving the UCR article. It has already been greatly improved and your work does not go unappreciated. 66.214.118.69 06:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

California History Editing

Looks like we're both working on that California History article. Please continue - I'll wait until you're done. Thx.

NorCalHistory 18:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Changing Hist of Calif article titles

GeorgeLouis, please see below:

Title of the California history articles We will have to rename the two sections of the California history articles. Any suggestions?

Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 11:19, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Is there a WPedia reason for the "History of California" format as opposed to "California History"? Should we just keep the titles simple like "California History (to 1899)" and "California History (1900 to present)"? The blue category box already uses these terms. NorCalHistory 17:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

There was a major discussion some time ago and consensus reached for across-the-board consistency for these types of articles, which is why they now begin with "History of ..." I believe if you go back far enough on the edit history that you will find the article was, at one time, entitled "California History."--Lord Kinbote 17:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting - thank you. Should these two articles then simply be re-titled to "History of California (to 1899)" and "History of California (1900 to present)"? Again, as noted the blue box with the poppy already uses these terms. NorCalHistory 19:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I think that makes the most sense, with History of California then becoming a disambiguation page.--Lord Kinbote 19:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Hearing no objections, there seems to be consensus that the articles should be re-titled. Lordkinbote or GeorgeLouis, would you like to do the honors? NorCalHistory 19:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Done.--Lord Kinbote 21:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I didn't get to vote. I don't know that much about California history, but I am assuming that 1900 marked some kind of watershed?? Anyway, what's done is done. I am also assuming that continuing forces that slop over the boundary line could be mentioned on each side of it. GeorgeLouis 21:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

FYI, article size is a consideration here as well and the break between the 19th and 20th centuries is a logical one based on that criteria. I don't know that one of these state histories has ever needed to be broken in two like this, there's a lot of info on California.--Lord Kinbote 21:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Linton

Hello George, Hey, I'd like to edit that article, but I don't have many sources on her other than what's available via a goggle search. Another indian UCR alumni, Angela Gonzales, Hopi, graduated from UCR in the early 90s and went on to earn her doctorate in Sociology at Harvard and currently is on the faculty at Cornell.--Amerique 17:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I checked out the available information on Linton. It seems there is enough to write a decent article on her. I will try experimenting over the next week.--Amerique 18:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello George, I added a bio template and uploaded a photograph. Will continue adding to this project little by little. Her paper, "pheonix and chimera" on memory and oral history is actually quite interesting. btw, corrected the name of my friend at Cornell. Also, re: the UCR article, I find the wikiproject:universities template rather dry, not to mention ignored entirely by most university articles as well as WP featured articles such as MSU and Cornell. I agree with you that the history section is too long, will work on that, and I think the idea for a universal UC admissions article was a great one, but I think that for this article, various umbrella categories such as "student life" and "academics" were useful for organizing vast quantities of related information coherently, and seem to have worked for people who have edited some of these articles to featured status. Best,--Amerique 05:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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I'm not sure where I got the following, but it is her curriculum vitae: Also she wrote some good stuff at http://www.sacnas.org/biography/Biography.asp?mem=57&type=2

Marigold Linton, Ph.D. University of Kansas

Title: Director, American Indian Outreach Address: Provost Office, University of Kansas 1450 Jayhawk Blvd., Room 250 Lawrence KS 66045-7535 Telephone: (785) 864-4904 Email: mlinton@ku.edu

Tribal membership (enrolled): Cahuilla-Cupeno, Morongo Band of Mission Indians Born and raised on the Morongo Reservation in Southern California

A. Activities Relevant to SACNAS Agenda 1. University of Kansas, Director, American Indian Outreach, 1998 – present Haskell Indian Nations Univ., Adjunct Biomedical Research Liaison, 2001 - present Developed consortium with Haskell Indian Nations University to support biomedical research opportunities for American Indian students and faculty. Supported by $11.5 million in training grants. NIH: Bridges to the Future Grant, 1999-2006 ($1,200,000). Bridges students from Haskell Indian Nations University to KU in sciences. More than 40 mentors in the sciences across all biomedically relevant disciplines (more than 20 departments ranging from speech and hearing, psychology through physics and mathematics). Approximately 10 American Indians each semester participate in the program. Role: Co-Investigator and evaluation coordinator. NIH: Initiative for Minority Student Development, 2001-2005 ($2.5 m). Supports American Indian students in biomedically relevant sciences by reducing barriers in “gatekeeper” science classes, creating cutting edge classes for students and providing numerous opportunities for research experiences: Approximately 15 minority students participate each year. Role: Co-Investigator and evaluation coordinator. NIH: Research Initiative for Scientific Enhancement, 2001-2006 ($4 m), a Haskell grant. Provides support for office of sponsored projects/research and planning, provides a well-staffed highly successful computer learning lab, provides support for two Haskell faculty members to obtain their Ph.D.s at KU and provides research experiences at a number of locations for students in the sciences. Role: Co-Investigator, evaluation coordinator and liaison between Haskell and relevant supporting departments at KU. NIH: Institutional Research and Academic Career Development Award, 2002-2007 ($2.3 m). Supports nine postdoctoral fellows who spend three years in research laboratories at KU while teaching a class at Haskell Indian Nations University. Role: Co-Investigator and liaison between Haskell and KU.

2. Arizona State University, Director, Educational Services, College of Education, 1986-1994 Responsibilities: 1) scholarship awards/development; 2) basic skills development; 3) on-site teacher education program for 55 White Mountain Apache offered at tribe’s request. Director, American Indian Programs for SUMMS Institute, 1994-1996 Responsibilities: Development of mathematics and science opportunities for American Indian students supported in part by NASA and NSF grants. NASA: American Indian Science and Technology Education Consortium (AISTEC). Consortium of four tribal colleges and four universities: visited each of the tribal colleges and worked to improve infrastructure and relationships between the two- and four-year institutions. Provided summer bridge programs to reservation students and after school mathematics tutoring to middle school reservation children. Role: Co-Investigator, subcontract from New Mexico Highlands University, 1994-1998. National Science Foundation: Utah-Colorado-Arizona-New Mexico Rural Systemic Initiative (UCAN-RSI). NSF’s Rural Systemic Initiative provides support to reservation schools – in particular, teacher development, conferences, etc. As coalition leader of the Arizona Tribal Coalition I had responsibility for services to 19 tribes. We provided services to 20 schools (BIA, contract, local, parochial). Principal investigator of ASU subcontract: lead institution, New Mexico Highlands University, 1994-1998. Director, American Indian Programs, ASU East, 1996-1998 Responsibilities: Outreach to Arizona tribes (supported in part by continuing NASA and NSF grants as described above). Worked closely with Gila River tribe that had educational and other rights at the ASU East Campus. Periodically attended meetings of Tribal Education Boards. I worked to develop a collaboration between ASU and the Indian Health Service, Phoenix Area Office. My grants from NASA and NSF with slightly modified activities continued during my tenure at ASU East.

B. Education Institution Degree Year Major University of California, Riverside BA 1958 Experimental Psychology University of Iowa Grad Work 1958-60 Experimental Psychology University of California, Los Angeles Ph.D. 1964 Experimental Psychology

C. Faculty and Sabbatical Leave Positions: • Trained as an experimental psychologist and moving over time to become an experimental cognitive psychologist, I taught in the psychology departments at SDSU and U Utah in cognition and research and quantitative methods for social scientists (note book below).

Institution Date Titles (Ranks) San Diego State University, Department of Psychology 1964-1974 Instructor to Professor University California, San Diego, Center for Human Information Processing 1972-1973 Visiting Scholar Minneapolis Public Schools Indian Education Section 1980-1981 Visiting Scholar (3 mo.) University of Pittsburgh, Learning Research and Development Center 1980-1981 Visiting Scholar (12 m.) University of Utah, Department of Psychology 1974-1986 Professor

Awards/Honors: National Indian Education Association – Service Award 1993 SACNAS- Founders Medal U California, Riverside 40th Anniversary: “One of 40 Alumni Who Make a Difference” SACNAS- Service Award The Pride of American Indians- one of 100 contemporary and historic Indians recognized 1998 Phoenix Area Indian Health Service—Service Award 1998 UCAN RSI and the Arizona Tribal Coalition—Leadership in Systemic Reform Award 1998 Arizona State University East —Leader and Mentor Award

Other Notable American Indian Activities: External Evaluator for Department of Commerce grant to Pima Community College, University of Arizona and the Pascua Yaqui Tribe: 2000-2003. White Mountain Apache Project, Teacher Preparation Program 1988-1992: At the request of the White Mountain Apache Tribe provided on the reservation training to a cohort of 50+ teacher aides who wished to become teachers. Minneapolis Public Schools, Indian Education Division, Consultant 1975-1980: Provided evaluation and other services to Indian Education division. US Office of Education, Office of Indian Education, Evaluation Consultant (2 years): Provided evaluation and education training in American Indian communities across the country. American Indian Education Association, Member Founding Board of Directors, 1970: The Association now has more than 10,000 members. Malki Museum (Morongo Reservation): Board of Directors (8 years). The on-reservation museum conserved materials and published books, journals and pamphlets on Southern California American Indian culture.

Selected National Advisory Positions: • Board of Directors and Council 1977-1985 Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, Board of Directors While I was on the board we developed the Carnegie High School study. Shortly after I left the board it completed the seminal study on the Tribal Colleges. 1982-1986 National Institutes of General Medical Science, National Advisory Research Resources Council At the time this Council was responsible for reviewing all NIH’s minority training grants. • National Research Council appointments 1975-1979 National Research Council, Committee on Education & Employment of Minority Group Members in Science 2001-2004 National Research Council, Committee on Assessment for NIH Minority Research/Training Programs • Appointments to Initial Review Groups I currently review regularly for NIH NIGMS Bridges to the Future, IMSD, RISE and occasionally for other special reviews. The following represent formal appointments to Initial Review Groups. 1976-1979 National Institutes of General Medical Sciences, Minority Access to Research Careers (MARC), Initial Review Group 1980-1981 National Institutes of Mental Health, Minority Mental Health Review Committee 1980-1982 Educational Testing Service, Graduate Records Examination: Minority Research Committee 1986-1988 National Institutes of General Medical Sciences, Minority Access to Research Careers (MARC), Initial Review Group 1993-1996 National Institutes of General Medical Science, Minority Biomedical Research Support (MBRS), Initial Review Group

D. Selected publications (in reverse chronological order). My research involves very long term memory. My research area for the last 25 years has focused on autobiographical memory and “maintenance of knowledge” how long we remember “what we know.” I have also written on research collaborations. These papers are written with my husband, R. E. Barnhill, an expert in the area. The 1975 Practical Statistician was written to serve students and sold 75,000 during the 20 years it was in print. Barnhill, R. E. & Linton, M. (2002). Big Teams, Big Schemes: Everyone Grows. Hall Center Talk, University of Kansas. (In press). Linton, M. (1999). Telemedicine holds promise for native communities. SACNAS News, Fall 1999, p. 29-30. Linton, M. (1996). The maintenance of a complex knowledge base after seventeen years. In D. Medin (ed.) The Psychology of Learning and Motivation, Vol. 33, 127-163. Linton, M. (1994). Memory as chimera: The changing face of memory. Memory and History Symposium, Baylor University Press. Linton, M. (1993). Recruitment and retention in a teacher education program: A Southwest Perspective. In CEDR at Phi Delta Kappa, Hot Topics: Minority Recruitment and Retention in Teacher Education. Barnhill, R. E., & Linton, M. (1992). Promoting research in science and engineering departments. In C. R. Haden & J. R. Brinks, Innovative Models for University Research, Elsevier. Linton, M. (1988). The maintenance of knowledge: Some long-term specific and generic changes. In Gruneberg, M. M., Morris, P.E., & Sykes, R.N. (Eds.) Practical Aspects of Memory: Current research and Issues, Vol. 1, Memory in Everyday Life, (pp. 378-384), John Wiley. Linton, M. (1986). Ways of searching and the contents of memory. In D. Rubin (Ed.) Autobiographical Memory. New York: Cambridge University Press. Linton, M. (1982). Transformations of memory in everyday life. In U. Neisser Memory Observed: Remembering in Natural Contexts. W.H. Freeman (pp. 77-91) Linton, M. (1979). Real-world memory after six years: An in-vivo study of very long-term memory. In Gruneberg, M.M., Morris, P.E., & Sykes, R.N. (Eds.) Practical Aspects of Memory: Current research and Issues, Vol. 1, Memory in Everyday Life, (pp. 69-76), Academic Press. Linton, M. (1975). Memory for real-world events. In D.A. Norman & D.E. Rumelhart, Explorations in Cognition, p. 376-404, W.H. Freeman. Linton, M. & Gallo, P. (1975). The Practical Statistician, Brooks/Cole Publishing, Monterey, CA.

E. Scientific and Professional Organizations: Society for the Advancement of Chicanos and Native Americans in Science Founding member, Life member, Friend of the Society Elected Board of Directors, 1989, reelected 1992; reelected 2001. Program Committee 2000-2003 Geological Sciences Committee 2002-2003 Evaluation Committee (Chair) 2001-2003 American Psychological Association: Elected Fellow of Division 1, 1984; Elected to the Board for Advancement of Psychology in the Public Interest (BAPPI), 1992 Subcommittee: Disabilities National Indian Education Association Founding member; founding Board of Directors, incorporated August 1970

Personal information: I am married and have two wonderful stepchildren – both in scientific disciplines. Raised eating in the old Indian way, I have tried to maintain those healthy habits. My husband and I try to walk at least 25 miles a week. I collect Indian art and particularly love Indian (especially Cahuilla) baskets. Photography and racquet sports are old passions that now get put off “until I have a little more time.”

GeorgeLouis 18:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Life
		For your contributions to University of California, Riverside. Danny Lilithborne 02:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:NAM shortcut

Hi -- first, thank you for being so polite and cordial in your response. I replied here: Wikipedia_talk:No_angry_mastodons#Shortcuts
And to reiterate, would you like me to just list that redirect at redirects for deletion? Though I'm not sure I like the idea of deleting redirects because of the acronyms used, I think you do have a good point because I did in fact think of Vietnam the first time I saw "WP:NAM" too. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 12:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

RSA

Explained RSA for Non-Aussies?? eg NZers? GrahamBould 11:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. A non-Aussie is anyone who is not an Australian. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 15:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Radical Edit of Hippie Lead

Hello GeorgeLouis. The lead of an article is intended to provide casual readers with the opportunity to familiarize themselves with the subject matter without reading the entire article. It is a summation of the rest of what the article says. The lead should answer, as succinctly as possible, the who, what, when, where,why and how questions of traditional journalism. Readers who wish to learn more can then move on to the rest of the article as they see fit.

Your radical edit of the "Hippie" lead does two things:

1./ It deprives the casual reader of this opportunity. 2./ It introduces the material (thanks for not deleting most of it, by the way) into the rest of the article in a rather disjointed way. In particular, since the lead as previously written summarized aspects of the rest of the article, it creates redundancies.

You deleted most of the first paragraph of the lead:

Hippie, occasionally spelled hippy, refers to members of a countercultural movement that began in the United States during the 1960s. Initially the movement surfaced on United States college campuses, then moved beyond academic settings to most major cities in Canada, Great Britain, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand. To a lesser extent hippie influence was felt worldwide, particularly in Eastern Europe, Mexico and Japan. There is general agreement that the movement had significantly faded by the late 1970s, especially in the United States.

This first paragraph answered many of the who, what, when and where questions (why and how were addressed later in the lead). I understand that it is unsourced, however that is because of its concentration--nearly every word has been carefully worked out among various editors to represent their concerns for inclusion. This is very much a work in progress. In particular those who live in other parts of the world--I have corresponded personally with folks in Great Britain, New Zealand and Eastern Europe-- have complained that the "Hippie" article is too America-centric. The geographical scope of the first paragraph of the lead is a preliminary attempt to answer their concerns, though much more needs to be done.

I'm not sure how to answer your objection about sourcing because forty or more citations (just guessing) would need to be inserted to fully source this paragraph. Pretty awkward. In any case, a specific request for sourcing is usually more appropriate than immediate deletion. This gives the involved editors time to honor your request.

I understand that you believe that much of the information contained in this paragraph is doubtful. Personally, I would not have thought to include many of the geographical references (Japan, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand and Eastern Europe for example) before doing my own research on the subject. Nevertheless, a lot of thought has gone into this paragraph and I believe it is quite accurate.

For the reasons I have given, I believe the lead as previously written should be reinstated. It can, of course, be improved and refined--that is happening all the time. Thanks for participating, now and in the future. Founders4 18:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Just a question

Hi GeorgeLouis. An editor is currently claiming that I "chased" you away from the "Hippie" project. True or not true? I do agree, by the way, that the lead needs condensing, just not as radically as you proposed. Founders4 08:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Not true. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 14:59, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks George. Good to know.Founders4 16:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Crick e Crock

You can keep your Crick e Crock thing if you want, but it is not a correct information. In Italy, such nickname is given to ANY Goofy couple, i.e. Mikey Mouse and Goofy, Donald Duck and Daisy and probably Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy. So it is NOT another Italian name for Stanlio e Ollio. Kedar 18:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Capitalization at Prime Minister of Denmark

You were just a bit too eager decapitalizing Prime Minister of Denmark. As specified at [[4]] some titles should be upper case. Some of your changes were of course correct. Thue | talk 19:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the reference. It will come in handy. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 19:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for comment

If you have the time and inclination, I'd appreciate it if you would "weigh-in" on the current discussion at Talk:Hippolyte de Bouchard; it could use some objective, outside feedback. Regards, Lord Kinbote 22:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Zealand, New Brunswick

The Zealand, New Brunswick, article is having some challenges with, what I believe, is one very inexperienced editor. I picked the reference style, not only because it is one of Wikipedia's recommended styles, but because it is so obvious. I wanted to slow down the destructive edits of the rogue editor. So far no luck. I can't get him to join the discussion page. On his talk pages I have tried to lure him into the fold. I have tried warning templates, but I get the impression he is elderly and not willing or able to participate, other than to make horrific edits that wipe out large parts of the page. Almost all he writes about are his opinions and his original research. His spelling is just scary, and his sentences ramble and stray off subject. Whenever he does write something useful I incorporate it into the article, but this is a bit tiring. You can see an example of his work just before any of the reverted pages. I really don't want to report him, but someday I might have to just to keep my sanity. Fiddlehead 05:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)