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::To sum up: Is someone is a Cham Albanian it should be mentioned that he was born in Chameria, Epirus, because that's how this community calls it. The same happens with Northern Epirotes (i.e. this one).[[User:Alexikoua|Alexikoua]] ([[User talk:Alexikoua|talk]]) 14:00, 13 September 2018 (UTC) |
::To sum up: Is someone is a Cham Albanian it should be mentioned that he was born in Chameria, Epirus, because that's how this community calls it. The same happens with Northern Epirotes (i.e. this one).[[User:Alexikoua|Alexikoua]] ([[User talk:Alexikoua|talk]]) 14:00, 13 September 2018 (UTC) |
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::A typical example on how Chameria is mentioned in an article about a Cham Albanian [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refo_%C3%87apari]]. The same happens for Northern Epirotes since it's relevant to the subject: he was involved in the movement for the establishment for the Northern Epirus Republic.[[User:Alexikoua|Alexikoua]] ([[User talk:Alexikoua|talk]]) 14:28, 13 September 2018 (UTC) |
::A typical example on how Chameria is mentioned in an article about a Cham Albanian [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refo_%C3%87apari]]. The same happens for Northern Epirotes since it's relevant to the subject: he was involved in the movement for the establishment for the Northern Epirus Republic.[[User:Alexikoua|Alexikoua]] ([[User talk:Alexikoua|talk]]) 14:28, 13 September 2018 (UTC) |
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Once more you are being incorrect and using fallacy. where si the source stating the community was calling him a northern epiriote? the source you cite is irrelevant as it simply states what was included in the fictious, part of the irredentist Megali idea, republic of Northen Epirus. Your source does not state that the community even USED TO KNOW HIM as northern epiriote, let alone KNOWS him now as such. Once more, you are not bringing neither proof, nor citation saying he was born in what IS known as northen epirus by the Greek COMMUNITY. Do you get my point? And if yout ell me it is implied from the source you found, this is not valid. You cannot imply anything in wikipedia, only state sourced content, which here nowhere in the source is mentioned that the Community views this person and this region as Northern epirus. If you personally do, this is not my, or any of the reader's problem for that matter. Thus, this will be removed permanently unil you find me a book saying the GREEK COMMUNITY VIEWS THAT ARE NOWADAYS AS NORTHERN EPIRUS AND CALLS ITS INHABITANTS NORTHERN EPIRIOTES.Unless I literally see this cited, that clear insult to Albania and to anyone's intelligence will not remain. I hope I was clear enough. |
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I do not want to re edit this, but in the source is not mentioned anything about being born in northern epirus. This is a conclusion of the editor and he is being biased by not adding cited information. Northen Epirus does not exist( anymore,if it ever did) thus, the name will be permanently changed to, Korçë, Southern Albania and any other edit without source will be considered vandalism. Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.26.41.112 (talk) 17:16, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- He was personally involved in the Northern Epirus movement against annexation to Albanian as a local Greek. It's essential to point that he was a Northern Epirote according to his point of view.Alexikoua (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Once more, I am re-using one of many of your arguments in such cases, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT SOURCEDD AND THUS B IT WIL NOT BE THERE, you are committing a fallacy and spamming. Come on now, besides this, you want to remove an entire map because it is too big for you, and now you tell me to include the place because he thought to be like that. and oh, let me ask greeks, as most of the normal people there(as I have lived in Greece long enough to know) they do NOT THINK that south albania is northern epirus. only ultra nationalists are thinking that. Anyways, lets get back to academics, what you say is not sourced and you were not in his mind and it is against the wikipedia rules you advocate so much to cite out of your own opinion, which you do here. I am unediting this as it was one last time and if you spam again, I will take immediate action in the right instances. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.26.41.112 (talk) 01:18, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Hence, if you spam in such a nationalistic way, i am respoding with the same coin. To all the notable albanians born in modern-day greek part of epirus, I will modify it and say they were born in Çameëria, if they had to do with any movement of çamëria joining Albania. So you choose, either I do the same, either you stop being a kid and start acting according to the self-acclaimed reputation and start being politically correct! Unless you stop editing this and the other greek guy's page, this will go very, very bad with such provocations. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.26.41.112 (talk) 01:35, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- To sum up: Is someone is a Cham Albanian it should be mentioned that he was born in Chameria, Epirus, because that's how this community calls it. The same happens with Northern Epirotes (i.e. this one).Alexikoua (talk) 14:00, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- A typical example on how Chameria is mentioned in an article about a Cham Albanian [[1]]. The same happens for Northern Epirotes since it's relevant to the subject: he was involved in the movement for the establishment for the Northern Epirus Republic.Alexikoua (talk) 14:28, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Once more you are being incorrect and using fallacy. where si the source stating the community was calling him a northern epiriote? the source you cite is irrelevant as it simply states what was included in the fictious, part of the irredentist Megali idea, republic of Northen Epirus. Your source does not state that the community even USED TO KNOW HIM as northern epiriote, let alone KNOWS him now as such. Once more, you are not bringing neither proof, nor citation saying he was born in what IS known as northen epirus by the Greek COMMUNITY. Do you get my point? And if yout ell me it is implied from the source you found, this is not valid. You cannot imply anything in wikipedia, only state sourced content, which here nowhere in the source is mentioned that the Community views this person and this region as Northern epirus. If you personally do, this is not my, or any of the reader's problem for that matter. Thus, this will be removed permanently unil you find me a book saying the GREEK COMMUNITY VIEWS THAT ARE NOWADAYS AS NORTHERN EPIRUS AND CALLS ITS INHABITANTS NORTHERN EPIRIOTES.Unless I literally see this cited, that clear insult to Albania and to anyone's intelligence will not remain. I hope I was clear enough.