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== Hindusthan == |
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Kautilya, |
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The word Hindusthan is found in hindi & other north indian languages, as the page in question itself states. |
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The word Bharatha desha are found in the southern & Oriya languages & bharath in rest of them. |
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Hindusthan is restricted largely to the areas under mughal rule. |
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I'm not sure how to prove a negative. |
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the links cited for that claim are showing them in urdu/hindi languages. |
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the claim however is not specific enough to delineate that 'hindusthan' is only used in hindi/ urdu & other mughal ruled regions. |
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In Telugu, Kannada, or Malayalam, for example,the official names & vernacular names are India or Bhaaratha. |
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"WP:NPOV, this has been contradicted in the same source, and plenty of other sources
." Historical sources are sources and one needs to include it as well. Why did you delete the Greek historical account from the introduction? Want to discuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercuryjo (talk • contribs) 06:33, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- You have cited Upinder Singh's book. But it is pretty obvious that you haven't actually seen the book, nor made an effort to summarise it from a neutral point of view. WP:SAYWHERE you have actually seen the content that you have added. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 06:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
It is pretty condescending of you to say that I haven't read the source to say the least. Show some minimum courtesy. Is this "But it is pretty obvious that you haven't actually seen the book" the way to have a scholarly debate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercuryjo (talk • contribs) 19:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- My apologies to Kautilya for interrupting, I will go one better, please provide a quote from A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century on page 205 that supports the sentence;
- "The Greek historian Arrian wrote in his Indika, that Megasthenes describes that all Indians were free and no one was a slave. He further stated that the Lakedaemonians hold Helots as slaves who do servile labour, however the Indians do not use aliens as slaves, much less a countryman of their own."
- Sound good? --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Kautilya3, Who are you to decide Megasthenes is not a reliable source? Quote me a single eminent historian positing such an argument. Mercuryjo (talk) 01:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- It is pretty condescending of you to ignore my request. Such action can be considered disruptive. Anyway, as for Kautilya's comment, see here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Upinder Singh (whom you have cited without ever looking at it), has a detailed discussion of the sources in Chapter 7. Kautilya's Artashastra, Megasthenes' Indica, and Ashoka inscriptions. She also gives a box on p.325, where she reproduces what other Greek historians have said about Megasthenes. In particular, she quotes Strabo:
Generally speaking, the men who have hitherto written on the affairs of India were a set of liars —Deimachus holds the first place in the list, Megasthenes comes next; while Onesicritus and Nearchus, with others of the same class, manage to stammer out a few words [of truth]. (Emphasis added)
- Kautilya, my famous ancestor, has an entire chapter on slavery in his Arthashastra. Have you read it?
- All edits on Wikipedia are subject to WP:CONSENSUS. It is your job to convince every one of the appropriateness of your edits. Gung ho attitude like "Who are you to decide?" will get you blocked. You have now been informed of the ARBIPA sanctions. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
And what was the condescension you showed towards me by judging that I am not well read? When you do it is fine but when I do it is "Gung ho"??? Mercuryjo (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
So you mean to say is your group of people like a cult or something? So you will allow only things you agree with? Mercuryjo (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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The article Syed Qasim Rasool Ilyas has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Fails WP:N.
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- Hi WBG, as I said at Talk:Syed Qasim Rasool Ilyas a long time ago, I don't have any strong feelings about whether the article should stay or not. I agree that the notability is quite marginal. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 15:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Eh! :(
- I didn't notice that the page was created by you or I would have utilized the premises of an AfD. Whilst the subject cleanly fails NPOL and GNG, (in my eyes), feel free to de-prod if you feel that there's any possible premises of including him.
- On a side-note, Google Snippets is not much reliable at picking up particular words.I have seen ample cases, where the search function has detected quite less number of hits, than ought be. ∯WBGconverse 16:56, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, Google snippets does not always show the actual content, but sometimes just shows the top of the page where it occurs. But if it says "1-0 out of 0 results", it means it isn't there. Given that Frykenberg would never have said a stupid thing like that, and the editor was clearly POV pushing, it was right to get rid of the content. Thanks for that! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:40, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hindusthan
Kautilya, The word Hindusthan is found in hindi & other north indian languages, as the page in question itself states. The word Bharatha desha are found in the southern & Oriya languages & bharath in rest of them. Hindusthan is restricted largely to the areas under mughal rule. I'm not sure how to prove a negative. the links cited for that claim are showing them in urdu/hindi languages. the claim however is not specific enough to delineate that 'hindusthan' is only used in hindi/ urdu & other mughal ruled regions. In Telugu, Kannada, or Malayalam, for example,the official names & vernacular names are India or Bhaaratha.