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The Emergence of Vishnu and Shiva

The most amazing slide show you will ever see! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Link Removal

Hello,

You have reverted my revision on the Ego death page about link removal and requested an explanation on Talk, so I have provided one here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ego_death#Regarding_Link_Removal

I hope my explanation clarifies the reasons for removal of those links.--198.71.112.21 (talk) 01:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dhāraṇī – the oldest printed texts in the world

Dharani – a form of magical amulet, melodic sounds we can't understand and aren't expected to, the hymns and the chants, inspired by the Vedic literature and implemented by the Buddhists – are the oldest surviving printed texts in the world. These are dated to early to mid 8th-century prolly by Chinese/Chinese-influenced inspiration, now found in Korea and Japan about the same time (c. 700-770 CE, pp. 114-115). @JimRenge: and JJ: perhaps, if you have the time and energy, the Dhāraṇī article could use your attention, such as with scholarly summaries from the Zen, the Theravada, the Mahayana and the Vajrayana traditions. For those talk page stalkers who might think this Buddhist Dharani and their Hindu/Jain/Christian/African/Meso-American equivalents is all superfluous, remember how you feel when you listen to your favorite music, one without words. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 21:35, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ms Sarah Welch: that's an interesting subject; and it make sense that those amulets are the oldest printed texts. Yet, I know nothing about it, and at the moment I'm lost in researching vipassana, so I'm afraid I'll have to let this one go by. Sorry. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:34, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ms Sarah Welch:, I think it is a very interesting topic. Ronald M. Davidson´s articles [1], [2] may be useful. I don´t have much time now but it is on my list. JimRenge (talk) 20:15, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both. Given the historical significance of Dharani in everyday layperson's Buddhist practice, I have expanded the Dhāraṇī article a bit. It is triple the size now, and I hope to add a bit more shortly. It might be a candidate article for a DYK on wikipedia main page, with the hook "oldest known printed texts in the world", assuming I can find time from RL commitments. Interesting how ideas migrated, how peaceful interactions and sharing of musical chant literature between the ancient Indian religions impacted their future, followed by the intercultural interactions and collaborations between the Koreans-Japanese-Chinese-Indians well over a millennium ago, a collaboration that helped trigger, create and preserve the earliest known mass printed texts in our world. JJ: see sources such as this (pp. 62-75) on the historic association between meditation and dharanis. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 21:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I am trying to sort out India's oldest coins (or so they say). I will be happy to watch this page too :-) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:58, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ms Sarah Welch, DYK is a good idea and the hook is fine. I am glad to see that you are already using Davidson´s analysis. JimRenge (talk) 00:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

JR: Ok, I will try to find time and get the DYK done if possible. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 09:55, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JimRenge: The updated article now meets the DYK expansion etc guidelines. I will let it marinate for a day or two before nominating it for DYK review process. Please take a look meanwhile, if your time permits. Revisions/comments by you and others would be most welcome as always. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 12:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ms Sarah Welch: well well, look what's at Thai Forest Tradition:

Tambiah, Stanley Jeyaraja (1984). The Buddhist Saints of the Forest and the Cult of Amulets. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-27787-7. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
McDaniel, Justin Thomas (2011), The Lovelorn Ghost and the Magical Monk: Practicing Buddhism in Modern Thailand, Columbia University Press

I don't know if it's related to printed texts, but at least it's about amulets. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:28, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Śramaṇa religion: AfD?

JJ: Any CFork issues with recently created Śramaṇa religion article, given we already have Sramana? The article looks like a cut-paste with strange incomplete sources (our @Diannaa spotted it). @Ronz: another Jain-related plug? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 09:53, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've turned it into a redirect. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:01, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good. Some parts of the pre-redirect version reminded me of Buddha-kahika, fwiw. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 10:02, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes. Kundakundakunda (talk · contribs) needs to be reined quickly, and all edits reviewed carefully.

Aren't there some sanctions that apply? I'm not finding them... --Ronz (talk) 15:25, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kundakundakunda has been edit warring with Chrissymad, Drmies and others with the undue Jain/etc-related content where they are copy-pasting text along with "{{citation needed|date=June 2016}}" from somewhere. The username is odd too because Kundakunda is a famed Digambara Jain monk who actually had a lot of interesting ideas. For someone registered in 2018, their spotty editing is strange and disruptive. Worth a scrutiny and watch. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 23:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronz and Ms Sarah Welch: I've nominated it for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Śramaṇa religion. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:52, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adi Shankara

I dont understand why you deleted the content? Adi Shankara, born in my native place and I know more than what you know. You people trying to prove thatAdi Shankara was born in CE 588? what a rubbish? Then what abouth the temples he built? What about the books which was written in BCE???

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 {{yo|Ronz|Ms Sarah Welch}} I've nominated it for deletion: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Śramaṇa religion]]. [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span>]] 04:52, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
+==Adi Shankara==
+I dont understand why you deleted the content? [[Adi Shankara]], born in my native place and I know more than what you know. You people trying to prove thatAdi Shankara was born in CE 588? what a rubbish? Then what abouth the temples he built? What about the books which was written in BCE???