User talk:Svetlana Miljkovic~enwiki

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Images of Romeo and Juliet in Sarajevo

Hi !

I've just seen the images Image:Brckic and ismic dead.jpg and Image:Rjsarajevo1.jpg, and I must say that I find their copyright status a little bit dubious; what makes you say taht these images were released in the Public Domain ?

By theway I restored the image of Sniper Alley, I know that it isn't that great (it was taken from a moving vehicle of the IFOR), but it's better to illustrate the article in the most complete possible way, and if the photo is relevant to two articles, so be it...

Also, it is better to use only "thumb" when possible, because "thumb|300px" overrides user's preferences as for the size of thumbs, and it may look awfully small on big screens, or too large on small ones.

Cheers ! Rama 07:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Copyright issues

I do not know about Serbian law, but in France or in the United States, now, a work is copyrighted once it is created. Mentions such as "Copyright (c) 2005 Foobar" are there to make this explicit, but are not necessary for any legal purpose. You should in fact assume that anything recent found anywhere is copyrighted under an unfree license unless it says otherwise explicitly. David.Monniaux 08:52, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I am very much afraid that David is right. Perhaps we could try to write to the families of Admira Ismić and Boško Brkić and ask them to donate of photograph of the couple, but of course, this would involve some research.

For the images of the bodies on the bridge, I fear that it will be difficult to find free images (our best chance for this might be to find French Blue Helmets who would by chance have taken photographs of the scene, but this sounds really non-trivial).

I hope that you are not too disapointed, I know that these issues can be quite frustrating sometimes. Cheers ! Rama 09:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello ! Thank you for your message. I am sorry to have been the bearer of bad news, and I am happy to see that you do not get discouraged by them.

Do not worry about the article itself, only the images would be deleted in case of copyright problem. By the way, I will try to see whether something can be done using the fair use provision (but it would really be much better to have Free images, of course).

I am very much interested in the War in Bosnia, so I appreciate your efforts on the this respect. Cheers and see you around ! Rama 17:46, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello ! I have modified the information of these images to claim them as fair use, if you want to review the rational, and possibly make it more precise. This way, the copyright information should be both exact and compatible with usage on Wikipedia. Cheers ! Rama 10:30, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

No problem, really. And if you are worried about something, do not hesitate to ask me (or someone else), we'll be glad to help you to help us ! Cheers and happy holiday ! Rama 14:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Ipak je svet mali :)

Eh, pa di si ti! Ajde mi se javi na email, dcabrilo@gmail.com ili ICQ (7366253), da se cujemo i vidimo gde je ko :) --Dejan Čabrilo 02:18, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Cirilica

Sto se tice cirilici na Windows, mozes postaviti si srpsku tipkovnicu u Control Panelu.

Maine, je li? Mozda poznajes jednog mog - e kako se kaze na srpskom? - bivseg "su-klasnika" iz skole... --VKokielov 05:33, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Znas, previse vremena i...Necu ulaziti. Dovoljno je, da znam. Ostalo ce se projasniti. Mozda imam talant do jezika.

Nasi su u Maineu?! ZAISTA JESU?! Nikad ne bih vjerovao. Sto oni tamo rade? Pa naime danas sam citao statistike Cenzusa. Je li si, naprimjer, znala da vas (Srbohrvata ;) ) ima u zemlji gotovo dvije sto tisuca, dok nas (ruskogovorjaschih) ima samo (!) nekih tamo sedam sto tisuca? (Uglavnom smo Zidovi). Al ipak nas ima vise nego Poljaka, kojih ima preko sest sto pedeset...:) Saosjecam zbog cinjenice, sto ruski krije druge slavenske jezike sjenom...Djelomicno i zbog toga sam zapoceo uciti -- cinilo mi se nekako nepravedno sto Bugari i Poljaci su ucili ruski svi, a nasi kad govore poljski ili srpski mozes cuti moskovski "accent". --VKokielov 06:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Ja cu prestati prelaziti medu "srpskim" i "hrvatskim", jer osecam se sizofrenicno. (A tako se osecam, jer latinica mi ide hrvatsko a cirilica hrvatsko ne ide. Ja sam idealni budala za vasih nacionalista, u ovom pogledu -- u potpunom sam skladu s njihovim shemama.)

Poznavao sam ovde neko vreme jednu Hrvaticu. Znaci setamo se Manhattanom, i iznenad ona mi rece: stoj. I cujemo...vas jezik! Olele. Pitam: odakle su? Ona kaze: iz Sarajeva. Odgovaram njoj: znas, ja zaboravljam da je Jugoslavija "such a big place." "Yes," kaze, "for such a small country." --VKokielov 06:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Hvala na razgovoru. Ostat cemo u vezi, nadam se. --VKokielov 06:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: I don't understand...

Hello Lana,

Is response to your inquiry, as Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia anyone can edit; it isn't really possible to avoid vandalism. The only thing possible is to watch for it, remove it and warn whoever made it that he/she will be blocked if he/she does it again. We have a volunteer organisation for that, the Counter Vandalism Unit. We use our watchlists for spotting vandalism, by clicking on the "diff" buttons, we check what changes have been made and remove them. Some dedicated anti-vandals engage in what is called RC patrol and that means checking the recent changes section for vandalism. We are usually pretty effective, but there have been times when things have gone terribly wrong. For example, once someone vandalised the page of the Norwegian Prime Minister saying that he had been in prison for rape. It took us 22 hours to notice and correct that, how many readers do you think read that false information? Currently, the most vandalised article is George W. Bush where about 70% of edits to that page are vandalism or someone removing it.

I hope this has been enlightening,

Izehar (talk) 11:38, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

PS there are other Serbian Wikipedians I have spoken to in the past - User:PANONIAN and User:HolyRomanEmperor (HRE is actually Croatian, but lives in Belgrade). You may also want to enter your name to Category:Wikipedians in Serbia and Montenegro Izehar (talk) 11:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

I see that User:Izehar has already introduced me. :) Greetings, fellow wikipedian! HolyRomanEmperor 12:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Sveti rimski car, moliću lepo. :) Do you need any assistence on a mater or two currently? HolyRomanEmperor 12:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Nominovan sam za administratora ovde. Da li bi(ste) bili/a ljubazni i glasali za mene (ako se slazete)? HolyRomanEmperor 16:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

See that for yourself. :) Hope to hear from you soon. HolyRomanEmperor 15:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

What do you think of the articles that I contributed (mostly me): Duklja, Zeta (state), Jovan Vladimir, Stefan Voislav, Mihailo Voislav, Lika and somewhat also Pagania, Travunia, Zahumlje and Skadar? HolyRomanEmperor 15:38, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: links you sent

OK. Happy New Year! --HolyRomanEmperor 17:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:JZaritsky.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:JZaritsky.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Sherool (talk) 17:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image

Ok, best of luck with the permission hunting. Just please remember to ask for the right kind of permission. Unfortunately the "Hey, can I use this image on Wikipedia" "Sure" kind of permission is not good enough, we need explicit permission to actualy re-distribute the images under a free license. Permission to use is kinda like getting permission to use something inside your factory only (the en.wikipedia.org site is our "factory"), what we need is permission to include it in our actual product (the content we produce that is freely available (under the terms of the GFDL) for others to use, build upon or even sell, is our product). --Sherool (talk) 21:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

I thought u maybe didnt know for this option. I hope no harm done:).... Luka Jačov 16:39, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Facwieck.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Facwieck.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Shyam ^(T/C) 19:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Please mention the license information in which it is release, like GFDL, Public domain, CC, etc. Thanks, Shyam ^(T/C) 17:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:John zaritsky.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:John zaritsky.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Sherool (talk) 12:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

^{Copied from my talk page. --Sherool (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)}

Hi,

I uploaded again the photo, after deletion, and provided the email that gave us the permission to use the picture from the owner of the photo! I don't know what else to add in order for photo to stay on!?!? thanks,

Lana

Svetlana Miljkovic 14:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Where is this e-mail? I can't see it anywhere. Also what kind of permission did you get? Did you rely get permission to say that anyone could do anyting with the image, or did you just get permission to use it on the article. Unfortunately there is a significant difference and if you only got permission to use the image it is not free enough to be used on Wikipedia because our content need to be re-usable by other people too, not just on Wikipedia itself. If you do have theyr permission to release the image under a suitable free license please read Wikipedia:Confirmation of permission on how to log the proof of this with the foundation. Thanks. --Sherool (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah I see, we are talking about two different images here. The e-mail is located at Image:JZaritsky.jpg, but that image is used under a fair use claim. I was talking about Image:John zaritsky.jpg wich was tagged with a "free use for any purpose" tag. I've just deleted the unused duplicate.

Anyway regarding permission be sure to ask for the right kind of permission, regular "sure you can use the image" kind of permission is just not enough (see this e-mail on the subject. What we need is an explicit permission to make the image avaialbe for others (re-distribute) under a free license compatable with the GFDL license (must allow modification, and commercial use). Hope that clears it up. Thanks. --Sherool (talk) 15:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Article Improvement Belgrade

You may wish to vote for Belgrade at the Article Improvement Drive page, here. --estavisti 21:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello! I invite you to join the WikiProject Serbia. All the best, --serbiana - talk 02:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Podrška

Imaš moju podršku u borbi protiv nacionalizma. To se naročito odnosi na pomoć pri pisanju eventualnog članka u Vremenu o sr: Wikipediji. Moja elektronska adresa: copavi_zagorac(a)yahoo.com - Pozdrav!

Sloba - Izabrani članak.

Da li bi glasala na ovoj stranici za to da li članak o SM-u da bude izabrani ili ne? Glasaj, dok si još administratorka, molim te. Pozdrav. --Pockey 16:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Au, pa ja sam mislio da si ti administratorka, pa sam te zato zamolio da glasaš. Toliko se zapelo da ovo bude izabrani članak, a uopšte nije dovršen. Gde će taj novi članak o Srebrenici biti postavljen? Ako ikako mogu da pomognem, tu sam. --Pockey 21:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Priznanje za demokratiju

Posle priznanja za vredno delovanje, dodeljujem ti i priznanje za demokratiju zbog hrabrosti i iskrenosti! Ikonicu ću ti staviti na ovu i na onu korisničku stranu. --Pockey 17:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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I was never on sezamnet or sezampro, but I was on SETNet, and wrote for Svet kompjutera, maybe yousaw my name there. Anyway, I saw something you wrote on sr wiki but it turned out that you have just translated it, that's all. Nikola 06:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

No. What you translated was completely wrong, and written in such a way that it was obviously written by someone who knows that it is wrong and is just spreading propaganda. If someone writes such things, he or she should not be on the list.

Looking through your work now however, I see that you don't follow your own advice, as you obviously have an agenda to push, and are pushing it on Wikipedia. To this date, it is not known with 100 % certainty who fired the shots, but it is greatly believed that shots came from the Serbian side. Right, if we don't know who did it, it must be those evil Serbs again. Not to mention that you implied that it is known with high certainty who fired the shots (not 100%, but maybe 90% or 80%...) while in reality there is not even 1% certainty, no one has the slightest idea who fired the shots. Nikola 07:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for Choosing Belgrade

Posted by (^'-')^ Covington 07:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC) on behalf of the the AID Maintenance Team

Re: i have a question

Hi, your problem is that "Marjan" is the title of a disambiguation page. Your link is rendered as bold text because it is what is known as a self link, that is it refeer to the page it's on. What you need to do is come up with a new unique title for the article you want to write about the lion, I would suggest Marjan (lion) (I took the libery of changing the link from the disambiguation page to this), that is typicaly the way it's done when several things have the same name. --Sherool (talk) 22:58, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: last time....

Hi. The logo tag is only to be used for actual logos, so the picture of the biscuit box should not be labeled as a logo. The picture does not fall into any of the obvious categories so you would have to use the {{Fairusein|article name}} tag, combined with a fair use rationale. Consider how much the image would add to the article though, fair use images should only be used if they add significantly to the article, and only if no free alternatives exist. In this case it would for example be better (if possible) to get hold of a biscuit box and take a photo of it yourself (preferably from a bit of an angle so it's not just a "copy" of the box art), maybe open it up and pile up a few biscits next to it and stuff like that.

Oh, and don't worry about "bugging" me with questions. If you find it helpfull I don't mind answering the ocational question as best as I can. --Sherool (talk) 07:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Iranian peoples

Thanks for the kind words! I do try to please. ;) Tombseye 16:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks. :) See you around. —Khoikhoi 17:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

jes li tu?

Nadam se da nisam uvrijedio time sto sam napisao.

Ako jesam, reci. Molim. --VKokielov 17:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

translations

I am replying to your post on the User talk:Pauk. If you need any help with Russian, write to my User talk:Vald. - Vald 22:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

how to respond to a vandal

Sorry, but I was away from wikipedia for a few hours and just now saw your message. I see that User:Rama's Arrow already put a warning on that anonymous editor's talk page. In the future, when something like this happens, you or any other editor can warn the vandal yourself. See Wikipedia:Vandalism (shortcut is WP:VAND). The only thing that requires an admin is the actual block after multiple warnings. Once the vandal has been warned multiple times, you can post a message to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (shortcut is WP:AIV). That page is monitored by many admins and should bring a quick response. But again, blocks are usually not done unless a vandal has already recieved 3 or 4 escalating warnings. If you have any further questions, let me know. Thanks. --rogerd 04:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

sr

Pokušavam da trpim koliko mogu. Izneo bih čitav niz zamerki za veliki broj neneutralnih članaka koji su sramota i ruglo. Nadam se da će postojati više korisnika sličnih nama koji će se u budućnosti suprostaviti nazadnosti. Pozdrav! --Pockey 21:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Nestala

Trazi se.

Koji god je razlog, nemoj nestati bez opomene. Mi smo vruci istocni narod i nerviramo se. --VKokielov 20:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Arbidol

The edit summary I left on that page was pretty vague, haha. All I was doing was replacing a link to Oral, since that's a disambiguation page, with Wiktionary:oral. :) Bwhack 14:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Daniela Mercury

You ran into a very uncommon and confusing problem. When you copied and pasted the image name you somehow picked up a invisible control character (most likely) (notice the %E2%80%8E stuff at the end of the red image url you inserted). Try inserting the image again, if the same thing happens place the cursur imedeately after the end of the image name and press backspace, this will erease the invisible character (you should see no difference, that is the last "g" in the filename should still be there), then try to preview again.

Oh, and by the way don't upload album covers to commons, they don't accept unfree material (fair use) there so it will just get deleted. --Sherool (talk) 06:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Trazi se ponovno

Moram reci, taj blog...;) Salim se. Ustvari, ne razumijem zasto se ljudi petljaju u tude stvari. Deset godina kasnije, tko jos uvijek zna sto je Bosna? Nitko -- old news. Medutim, jedan mali Izrael, ali ako neces ga nazvati kojim lijepim imenom, onda nisi muskarac. Fif. --VKokielov 03:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Povratak

Ćao, Svetlana. Verovatno me se ne sećaš, ali sada sam admin na srpskoj vikipediji. Nedavno sam čitao neke o tvoje članke. Odlični su (iako se ne razumem u to vrlo dobro) i želim da te pozovem nazad. Znam šta su razlozi tvog odlaska, ali mislim da se tako nešto više neće ponoviti i da treba okrenuti novi list.

Možda ćeš se naljutiti, ali moram da dodam da ni ti nisi postupila najbolje. Elem, srpska vikipedija je trenutno u fazi raspadanja, a potreban nam je neko ko će pisati članke. A i vidim da si duhovita, pošto nam je i to preko potrebno. :-)

Zato, molim te, razmisli. Mislim da bi se profesorka Snežana i Goldfinger jako obradovali ako bi se vratila. Poz. BokicaK 08:12, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Slažem se da sr: ima dosta POV članaka, ali to je nešto neizbežno. Uh... Srebrenica... Ne razumem se najbolje u to i ne bih da pričam o tome. Gledao sam samo neke komentare na bs: sr: i en:, pa ti mogu reći da su se Bosanci poneli prilično pe***ski, sa njihovim člankom-kukavičjim jajetom. Izvini, ali moram ti prebaciti da je diskusija o našem članku krenula po zlu kada si prozvala Manojla i dalje ti je poznato. U ove pola godine, sr: je preturila mnogo preko glave, tako da su admini sada prilično naoštreni ako diskusija nije u vezi sa nekim člankom ili ide po ličnoj osnovi. Takođe, osetljivi članci koji ne navode izvore ili reference će biti okićeni oni lepim tagovima (ovako ću barem ja raditi). Što se tiče sukoba, lično pokušavam da budem iznad njih i uvek težim nekakvom kompromisu.

Boris me je duboko razočarao svojim delovanjem i on je sada istorija. Za Nikolu ne znam, nisam imao ništa sa njim, ali sam čuo da je malo čvršći, mada mi ne deluje kao neko sa kim se nije moguće sporazumeti.

Čvrsto verujem da je srpska vikipedija prilično otvorena i spremnija za saradnju od one druge dve.

BokicaK 10:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Aj se vratit. Aj Svetlana. Aj i ja cu se vratit, al necu bez tebe (bi bilo krsenje rijeci :) ) --VKokielov 13:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

You have lived too long in this country. Please realize that the Croatian and (God save me) Bosnian Wikipedias aren't any less political than the Serbian. The result is a "balance of power". You needn't touch it; you can't touch it. If you could, there'd be one Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia. The fact that you are a very proud exception to the general rule of factional division -- straight out of a book -- and the fact that you have earned your right to speak -- all that doesn't change the organic need for this power balance. --VKokielov 13:23, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Ne odgovoraš mi, pa se bojim da sam te nekako uvredio, što mi iskreno nije bila namera. Da ne pominjem da kod imas dosta kredita :)A bura na srpskoj vikipediji je prošla. BokicaK 05:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Edit count

There are a few tools on the Toolserver that can give you the edit count of a user, for example http://tools.wikimedia.de/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits unfortunately they have been having a lot of trouble getting it to work against the English Wikipedia, theyr copy of the database keep getting corrupted meaning if you get any result at all it will be wrong. So for the time beeing there rely is no easy way to get an up to date count from this Wiki. --Sherool (talk) 22:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)