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:::I have urged you already to take it easy. That means in particular to not start edit warring as you just did on [[Pilaf]]. There are two primary spellings for the rice dish in the English language. In American English it is pilaf. In British and Commonwealth English it is pilau. WP has to give both. It does so on [[pajamas]], for example. I have given the detailed etymology as well as the two spellings in the Etymology section. It is cited to the premier historical dictionary of the English Language, the OED, which is not the same thing as a Learner's Dictionary. If something is cited in the main body of an article it is typically not cited in the lead. That is why it was not cited, though I could easily cite it again. All the other spellings are not English language spellings. Please reinstate my last version. [[User:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#B8860B">Fowler&fowler</span>]][[User talk:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#708090">«Talk»</span>]] 22:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC) |
:::I have urged you already to take it easy. That means in particular to not start edit warring as you just did on [[Pilaf]]. There are two primary spellings for the rice dish in the English language. In American English it is pilaf. In British and Commonwealth English it is pilau. WP has to give both. It does so on [[pajamas]], for example. I have given the detailed etymology as well as the two spellings in the Etymology section. It is cited to the premier historical dictionary of the English Language, the OED, which is not the same thing as a Learner's Dictionary. If something is cited in the main body of an article it is typically not cited in the lead. That is why it was not cited, though I could easily cite it again. All the other spellings are not English language spellings. Please reinstate my last version. [[User:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#B8860B">Fowler&fowler</span>]][[User talk:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#708090">«Talk»</span>]] 22:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC) |
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::::Sorry, I think you have me confused with the editor who added the content. You are making something simple into a protracted problem - the use of ''pilau'' as a synonym for ''pilaf'' requires a more substantial explanation because ''pilau'' is used also for the Afghan dish ''pilau'' which is not the same as ''paella'' (to take an obvious example). The issue is that this was impossible to decipher from reading the article, a situation that is not helped by blaming the existing problems of the article on new editors. The problems were already there when I started editing. I also don't know which version you would want me to reinstate, I thought this was added by the IP. [[User:Shofet tsaddiq|Shofet tsaddiq]] ([[User talk:Shofet tsaddiq#top|talk]]) 23:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC) |
::::Sorry, I think you have me confused with the editor who added the content. You are making something simple into a protracted problem - the use of ''pilau'' as a synonym for ''pilaf'' requires a more substantial explanation because ''pilau'' is used also for the Afghan dish ''pilau'' which is not the same as ''paella'' (to take an obvious example). The issue is that this was impossible to decipher from reading the article, a situation that is not helped by blaming the existing problems of the article on new editors. The problems were already there when I started editing. I also don't know which version you would want me to reinstate, I thought this was added by the IP. [[User:Shofet tsaddiq|Shofet tsaddiq]] ([[User talk:Shofet tsaddiq#top|talk]]) 23:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC) |
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- Thank you for this welcome! I have tried a new image on shrimp that I hope you will like. If not, maybe we can come to an agreement about a new image? I have opened a discussion on the talk page. Thank you again for kind welcome.Shofet tsaddiq (talk) 01:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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I know you are champing at the bit to make your contributions, and that is a good thing. But there is a flip side. If we jump into waters deeper than we are ready for, we lose our energy just as quickly, and drop out. I don't want that to happen to you. The trick to avoiding doing that is to start with small edits here and there, to make your user's page, to tell us what your interests are and why you are on Wikipedia, to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia guidelines, and, in general, to start unobtrusively. This is my advice, spoken from experience. All the best, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:13, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for this advice. I am happy to discuss more on the talk page if you think there is some problem with my edits I will try to fix it. I will make a user's page, thank you.Shofet tsaddiq (talk) 22:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Encyclopedic writing takes time. It is better to ramp up on unobtrusive pages. It is not something you can learn by prolifically editing highly trafficked articles, though editing them occasionally for small fixes is a good way as well. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:16, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- I have urged you already to take it easy. That means in particular to not start edit warring as you just did on Pilaf. There are two primary spellings for the rice dish in the English language. In American English it is pilaf. In British and Commonwealth English it is pilau. WP has to give both. It does so on pajamas, for example. I have given the detailed etymology as well as the two spellings in the Etymology section. It is cited to the premier historical dictionary of the English Language, the OED, which is not the same thing as a Learner's Dictionary. If something is cited in the main body of an article it is typically not cited in the lead. That is why it was not cited, though I could easily cite it again. All the other spellings are not English language spellings. Please reinstate my last version. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I think you have me confused with the editor who added the content. You are making something simple into a protracted problem - the use of pilau as a synonym for pilaf requires a more substantial explanation because pilau is used also for the Afghan dish pilau which is not the same as paella (to take an obvious example). The issue is that this was impossible to decipher from reading the article, a situation that is not helped by blaming the existing problems of the article on new editors. The problems were already there when I started editing. I also don't know which version you would want me to reinstate, I thought this was added by the IP. Shofet tsaddiq (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- I have urged you already to take it easy. That means in particular to not start edit warring as you just did on Pilaf. There are two primary spellings for the rice dish in the English language. In American English it is pilaf. In British and Commonwealth English it is pilau. WP has to give both. It does so on pajamas, for example. I have given the detailed etymology as well as the two spellings in the Etymology section. It is cited to the premier historical dictionary of the English Language, the OED, which is not the same thing as a Learner's Dictionary. If something is cited in the main body of an article it is typically not cited in the lead. That is why it was not cited, though I could easily cite it again. All the other spellings are not English language spellings. Please reinstate my last version. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Encyclopedic writing takes time. It is better to ramp up on unobtrusive pages. It is not something you can learn by prolifically editing highly trafficked articles, though editing them occasionally for small fixes is a good way as well. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:16, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
February 2019
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Your recent editing history at Shawarma shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. IamNotU (talk) 23:18, 16 February 2019 (UTC)