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Vanessa Beeley paragraph

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The paragraph seems to be about the views of Vanessa Beeley rather than Chris Williamson. Going to a talk and thanking the speaker is hardly significant - politicians must do this thousands of times. This behaviour does not tell us anything definite about Williamson's views. There is a high level of character assassination and guilt by association in this subject area. I suggest the paragraph is deleted. Jontel (talk) 06:55, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment reveals how little you know of Williamsons politics. Are you aware at all of his position on Syria, on chemical weapons attacks in Syria? The piece is about Williamson and Beeleys politics. I have seen this man speak on Syria on Channel 4 News many times ( too many bloody times). He has been vocal on Venezuela too. The article needs more on this, on his politics, he is a politician and his views need to be included in the article. How is there high level of 'character assassination' in reporting who he admires? Rather there would be a degree of whitewashing if his views on Syria etc were buried. He himself as Ive said , doesn't hide his views on Syria , he's often on the BBC and Channel 4, hectoring, with his conspiracist take. Anyhow he is obviously not ashamed of feeling honoured to listen to beeley , or he wouldn't have said what he did. Are you ashamed on his behalf? Dan the Plumber (talk) 09:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked at the article again , and its headline features Chris Williamson MP , so your idea that the point of the article is not him, but Beeley, won't wash. The man tweets , gushing,

Great to meet @VanessaBeeley today and a privilege to hear her speak at the #BeautifulDays2018 festival about her experiences of reporting from Syria

'a privilege' is also a lot stronger than 'thanking'. In brief I find your arguments are a bit tricksy and deliberately underplaying things. That you think this tells us nothing 'definite' about his views on Syria is , debatable. Not the open and shut case you are seeking to portray. There should be more on this subject, his views on Syria, but that is an argument for adding, not subtracting an article that does, whatever you protest, say something important, revealing, about this subject. Dan the Plumber (talk) 10:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stop trying to bulldoze your preferred version into the article.110.74.199.28 (talk) 11:58, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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	'a privilege' is also a lot stronger than 'thanking'. In brief I find your arguments are a bit tricksy and deliberately underplaying things. That you think this tells us nothing 'definite' about his views on Syria is , debatable. Not the open and shut case you are seeking to portray. There should be more on this subject, his views on Syria, but that is an argument for adding, not subtracting an article that does, whatever you protest, say something important, revealing, about this subject. [[User:Dan the Plumber\|Dan the Plumber]] ([[User talk:Dan the Plumber\|talk]]) 10:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC)		'a privilege' is also a lot stronger than 'thanking'. In brief I find your arguments are a bit tricksy and deliberately underplaying things. That you think this tells us nothing 'definite' about his views on Syria is , debatable. Not the open and shut case you are seeking to portray. There should be more on this subject, his views on Syria, but that is an argument for adding, not subtracting an article that does, whatever you protest, say something important, revealing, about this subject. [[User:Dan the Plumber\|Dan the Plumber]] ([[User talk:Dan the Plumber\|talk]]) 10:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

			Stop trying to bulldoze your preferred version into the article.[[Special:Contributions/110.74.199.28\|110.74.199.28]] ([[User talk:110.74.199.28\|talk]]) 11:58, 20 February 2019 (UTC)